Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-11 Thread Joshua Partogi
I agree. In programming world, a 'user' is actually someone that develops something with that framework or programming language. This is quite contrast compared to OS world. The term 'Linux user' would imply someone that actually use Linux, while Linux developers would imply someone that is

Re: Reduce bug triage overhead: DjangoAwesomeBot

2009-05-11 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Henrique Romano wrote: > On May 6, 2009, at 7:23 AM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: >> 2. Does the patch contain a test? >> 3. Does the test fail if the rest of the patch isn't applied? In principle, you can answer these together. Apply the

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-11 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:43 PM, James Bennett wrote: > There are no "intuitive" or "right" names, really ("django-core" > wouldn't work because this list is for more people than just the > "core" team, for example -- nothing short of >

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-11 Thread James Bennett
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Glenn Maynard wrote: > Better names for django-users and django-developer would have been > django-developer and django-core, respectively.  Calling this list > "developer" wasn't such a great idea--the users of Django *are* > developers;

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-11 Thread Glenn Maynard
Better names for django-users and django-developer would have been django-developer and django-core, respectively. Calling this list "developer" wasn't such a great idea--the users of Django *are* developers; they're developing with Django. No amount of tweaking the list description is going to

Re: Quoting in extra(select=...) expression

2009-05-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:33 PM, lemming110 wrote: > > I am trying to use the select keyword in extra.  But I cannot properly > quote the the expression for postrgres.  I am using the > django.contrib.comments.  I started with this snippet >

Quoting in extra(select=...) expression

2009-05-11 Thread lemming110
I am trying to use the select keyword in extra. But I cannot properly quote the the expression for postrgres. I am using the django.contrib.comments. I started with this snippet http://www.djangosnippets.org/snippets/1101/ which returns the number of comments for an object. However, the code

Re: ticket 10032, joins and isnull=True

2009-05-11 Thread Gábor Farkas
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote: > The choice to be made in an API implementation of this kind is whether > NULL checks on fields in related models implies a related instance > exists or not. Django follows SQL there and doesn't insist that a >

Re: r9766-related issues

2009-05-11 Thread Marty Alchin
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Armin Ronacher wrote: > All bugs are fixed now except for #10788.  Now the problem with > closing that one is that this one requires a design descision.  I > updated the ticket accordingly for jacob or anyone else to decide on > it.  

Re: r9766-related issues

2009-05-11 Thread Armin Ronacher
Hi, All bugs are fixed now except for #10788. Now the problem with closing that one is that this one requires a design descision. I updated the ticket accordingly for jacob or anyone else to decide on it. My personal opinion is that I consider it bad design for the application to depend on

Re: ticket 10032, joins and isnull=True

2009-05-11 Thread Gábor Farkas
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Michael Radziej wrote: > > On Mon, May 11, Gábor Farkas wrote: > >> Group.objects.filter(person__stamp__isnull=True) >> >> i get an OUTER JOIN, >> >> but if i do this: >> >> Group.objects.filter(person__stamp='2008-12-12') >> >> i get an INNER

Re: ticket 10032, joins and isnull=True

2009-05-11 Thread Michael Radziej
On Mon, May 11, Gábor Farkas wrote: > i'd like to discuss ticket 10032, because it was closed as WONTFIX, > ... > Group.objects.filter(person__stamp__isnull=True) > > i get an OUTER JOIN, > > but if i do this: > > Group.objects.filter(person__stamp='2008-12-12') > > i get an INNER JOIN. > >

ticket 10032, joins and isnull=True

2009-05-11 Thread Gábor Farkas
hi, i'd like to discuss ticket 10032, because it was closed as WONTFIX, and i think the issue i raised was somehow misundersood, perhaps i explained it the wrong way. the problem is that i'm filtering a queryset by doing a join using a foreign-key in the "opposite way", and django sometimes