Re: The blacklist / master issue

The focus while reading the Django pages should be on the differences between Django's governance approach (long term goal settings, a board of technical experts, meritocratic decision making) vs the many frameworks and projects that have flashed in the pan (please excuse me for using a phrase

Re: The blacklist / master issue

First things first: I'm glad, Django changed master/slave and blacklist/whitelist to more appropriate and adequate terms. Naming things is hard. And just because somebody came up with a name decades ago doesn't mean it can't — or even shouldn't — be changed. Especially when there are more

Re: The blacklist / master issue

Daryl, that is very strange, that you bring it here now. > One of Django's strengths is that decision making is *not* polluted by one strong opinion, a whim by a marketing department, or trend-following. renaming whitelist and blacklist is exactly what is in trend right now. I understand

Re: The blacklist / master issue

Alexander, """What is more important here, Django doesn't have a strong rules for making decision about how framework is building and changing""" *You couldn't be more wrong with this statement.* One of Django's strengths is that decision making is *not* polluted by one strong opinion, a whim

Re: The blacklist / master issue

Robert, thank you for your response. For me, as an experience developer, blacklist is more descriptive, since I saw this word in so many other places, languages, frameworks. But it is just me, I'm here not to say that my opinion is more important than anyone else's. What is more important

Re: The blacklist / master issue

Hello, I totally agree with Alexader's position, and I re-iterate his sentiment: This is embarrassing. If I shared this discourse about whitelisting/blacklisting in the software field with founders of Back Lives Matter, I would suspect that they would look at me in a strange way. Don't do

Re: The blacklist / master issue

Hey All, I see this opportunity to rename these things to be what they in plain, descriptive language. Since we will rarely have as many people together considering this change, I find it useful to think what we would have named these things from the beginning and then consider if our naming

Re: The blacklist / master issue

I would like to share this article which has pretty compelling arguments, especially regarding the feelings (point 4). On Monday, 15 June 2020 19:28:23 UTC+3, Tom Carrick wrote: > > This ticket was closed wontfix >

Re: The blacklist / master issue

Btw, PR-author has now a privilege to create an article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allowlistening On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 11:11:02 AM UTC+3, Alexander Lyabah wrote: > > I'm not debating, since nobody has something to say. I'm explaining, why > things that you are doing are embarrassing.

Re: The blacklist / master issue

I'm not debating, since nobody has something to say. I'm explaining, why things that you are doing are embarrassing. I hoping that wikipedia will be not that populistic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitelisting On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 5:32:58 PM UTC+3, Adam Johnson wrote: > > Alexander,