Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-21 Thread James Bennett
Guys, this is really degenerating into a bikeshed issue. Let it rest for a while, OK? Endless "me too" comments don't add anything useful to the discussion, and there are larger and more important things to be working on right now. And if anybody feels the need to post a snarky comment about

Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-21 Thread Jordan
On Dec 21, 2007 4:42 AM, Robert Šmol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As my 0.02 cents of new comer I can confirm this was one of the things > that slows adoption of Django. Proposed change to have ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX to > be /admin_media/ (or either /media/admin/ ) makes more sense (at least for >

Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-21 Thread Robert Šmol
As my 0.02 cents of new comer I can confirm this was one of the things that slows adoption of Django. Proposed change to have ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX to be /admin_media/ (or either /media/admin/ ) makes more sense (at least for me). When I started with django I was confused with when I used /media for

Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-19 Thread James Bennett
On Dec 19, 2007 4:26 AM, SmileyChris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I find mildly amusing is Malcolm's comment in the ticket [1] > which is pretty much the opposite of what he's saying now. In his > defence, he did say he would have to think about it for a bit > longer ;) What strikes me

Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-19 Thread Empty
> Over-engineered? A documentation change, plus a one-line config > change? Surely not! What would be the right amount of engineering, > then? Perhaps I misunderstood your proposal. Michael Trier blog.michaeltrier.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-19 Thread SmileyChris
What I find mildly amusing is Malcolm's comment in the ticket [1] which is pretty much the opposite of what he's saying now. In his defence, he did say he would have to think about it for a bit longer ;) In any case, before I wrote the backwards-incompatible patch, I wrote one that is pretty

Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-19 Thread Vinay Sajip
On Dec 19, 2:54 am, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 01:12 -0800, SmileyChris wrote: > >http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/2891was marked as a wontfix by > > jacob after "discussion with Malcolm". > > > Neither Collin or myself (or several others on IRC)

Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-19 Thread Vinay Sajip
On Dec 19, 1:39 am, Empty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had not seen that ticket when I wrote the post, but I think it's a > very good solution. Although I appreciate all the thought that Vinay > Sajip put into it, I think the solution he proposes is over-engineered > for this situation. The

Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-18 Thread Collin Grady
Malcolm Tredinnick said the following: > I'm basically -0 on the change (maybe a bit more than that) and since > it's not mountain-out-of-molehills month, I figure we can live with > things as they are and not imposing unnecessary breakage on our > userbase. With respect, I think it should be

Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-18 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 01:12 -0800, SmileyChris wrote: > http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/2891 was marked as a wontfix by > jacob after "discussion with Malcolm". > > Neither Collin or myself (or several others on IRC) can see a reason > why that this would cause any big disruption. How did

Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-18 Thread Empty
> http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/2891 was marked as a wontfix by > jacob after "discussion with Malcolm". > > Neither Collin or myself (or several others on IRC) can see a reason > why that this would cause any big disruption. > > Mr Trier even mentions it on his blog today as an example of

Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-18 Thread Yuri Baburov
np ;) >12/01/07 18:58:39 changed by jacob ¶ >* status changed from new to closed. >* resolution set to wontfix. >OK, Malcolm and I have discussed this IRL and decided that this ticket will just break too many people's code. We should instead change the documentation to not suggest that

Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-18 Thread Rob Hudson
On 12/18/07, Vinay Sajip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A reasonable approach would be that the media root for any app is > conventionally /media/app_label. This is easily organisable under > Apache/mod_python by having a single media location /media/ for which > you do a "SetHandler None", then

Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-18 Thread Vinay Sajip
On Dec 18, 6:01 pm, "Rob Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/18/07, Vinay Sajip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A reasonable approach would be that the media root for any app is > > conventionally /media/app_label. This is easily organisable under > > Apache/mod_python by having a single

Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-18 Thread Vinay Sajip
On Dec 18, 5:37 pm, Vinay Sajip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The default setting for ADMIN_MEDIA is /media/. The doc on serving Whoops, I meant ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX. Sorry. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-18 Thread Vinay Sajip
The default setting for ADMIN_MEDIA is /media/. The doc on serving static media (under the "big, fat disclaimer") suggests using / site_media/ for other (non-admin) media. The doc on mod_python deployment suggests using /media/ for media in general, and mentions that under the development server,

Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-18 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On 12/18/07, Yuri Baburov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unfortunately, not the first time I see that you guys wrong understand > your users and their code :( I'm sorry; I stopped reading at this point. If you'd like to try your argument again, leave off the ad hominem attacks next time. Jacob

Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-18 Thread Yuri Baburov
>12/01/07 18:58:39 changed by jacob ¶ >* status changed from new to closed. >* resolution set to wontfix. >OK, Malcolm and I have discussed this IRL and decided that this ticket will just break too many people's code. We should instead change the documentation to not suggest that people

Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-18 Thread SmileyChris
http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/2891 was marked as a wontfix by jacob after "discussion with Malcolm". Neither Collin or myself (or several others on IRC) can see a reason why that this would cause any big disruption. Mr Trier even mentions it on his blog today as an example of a silly