On Oct 23, 1:42 am, Waldemar Kornewald wrote:
> On Friday, October 23, 2009, James Bennett wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Vinay Sajip
> > wrote:
> >> How about using BitBucket? Does it have the same limitation? I see
> >> there's already a Django mirror there:
>
> > If anyone
On Friday, October 23, 2009, James Bennett wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Vinay Sajip wrote:
>> How about using BitBucket? Does it have the same limitation? I see
>> there's already a Django mirror there:
>
> If anyone's interested, I can see about maintaining a copy pulling
> from
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Vinay Sajip wrote:
> How about using BitBucket? Does it have the same limitation? I see
> there's already a Django mirror there:
If anyone's interested, I can see about maintaining a copy pulling
from any branches people are maintaining on bitbucket.
(and with
On Oct 22, 8:57 pm, mrts wrote:
> > Another benefit of a merge-queue branch is testing and verifying that
> > multiple patches play well together before actually hitting trunk.
> > For multiple big branches this is even more important.
>
> Currently blocking
> onhttp://support.github.com/discus
> Another benefit of a merge-queue branch is testing and verifying that
> multiple patches play well together before actually hitting trunk.
> For multiple big branches this is even more important.
Currently blocking on
http://support.github.com/discussions/feature-requests/560-two-forks-of-a-sin
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:22 PM, mrts wrote:
> A DVCS mm-tree
> --
>
> Quoting
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Morton_(computer_programmer)
>
> "He currently maintains a patchset known as the mm-tree,
> which contains not yet sufficiently tested patches that
> might later be ac
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 6:47 PM, mrts wrote:
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> On Oct 22, 3:36 am, Russell Keith-Magee
> wrote:
> As I said, I don't think I'm actually in a pjosition to suggest
> improvements to the workflow (being Nobody in that little story :)),
> but I'd be most pleased to do the following if core thinks
On Oct 22, 3:36 am, Russell Keith-Magee
wrote:
> On the other hand, saying "I am going to" is extraordinarily helpful.
> Saying "I already have" is even better. You don't need the core's
> blessing to do anything.
Yes, I wholeheartedly agree and that was the point of my initial
message.
> Allow
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:22 PM, mrts wrote:
...
> Django Bug Days
> ---
>
> At regular intervals, say twice a month on Saturdays,
> set aside 2-3 hours for IRC-based bug hunting sprints.
If we do this, I think the time slot should rotate to allow different
timezones to participate;
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Russell Keith-Magee
wrote:
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> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:48 AM, James Bennett wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Russell Keith-Magee
>> wrote:
>>> Let me tell you a store about three people named Everybody, Anybody,
>>> Somebody and Nobody.
>>
>> Four
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:48 AM, James Bennett wrote:
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> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Russell Keith-Magee
> wrote:
>> Let me tell you a store about three people named Everybody, Anybody,
>> Somebody and Nobody.
>
> Four! The four people in this story are...
erm... ahh... Nobody isn't a per
On Oct 21, 2009, at 7:48 PM, James Bennett
wrote:
> --
> "Bureaucrat Conrad, you are technically correct -- the best kind of
> correct."
Very fitting.
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On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Russell Keith-Magee
wrote:
> Let me tell you a store about three people named Everybody, Anybody,
> Somebody and Nobody.
Four! The four people in this story are...
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On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:22 AM, mrts wrote:
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> On Oct 20, 7:19 pm, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote:
>
> Django Bug Days
> ---
>
> At regular intervals, say twice a month on Saturdays,
> set aside 2-3 hours for IRC-based bug hunting sprints.
Yes, we should have more regular sprints. Howeve
On Oct 20, 7:19 pm, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote:
> What's frustrating, though, is hearing that you have a
> problem with our workflow without any concrete suggestions
> to improve it or offers of assistance. There's a general
> theme underlying most of this "angst" (as you call it):
> the tone implie
On Oct 20, 5:46 pm, James Bennett wrote:
> The tickets currently open in Trac represent approximately 14.5% of
> all tickets ever opened. About 15% of all open tickets are currently
> at the "unreviewed" stage.
>
> These numbers suggest that you are, at the very least, exaggerating
> quite a bit
On Oct 19, 4:13 pm, mrts wrote:
> now. Maintaining your own branches on GitHub or
> BitBucket off the corresponding Django SVN mirrors
> is easy and effortless, so it's time to put the
> grudges behind and happily fork and branch Django
It seems like the word "fork" is invested with political me
On Oct 20, 5:26 pm, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote:
> I don't have time to teach you how to communicate professionally.
I don't presume to speak for Yuri (or anyone else) but I think it's
not unreasonable that some allowance be given in situations where
miscommunication of tone can happen because of c
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Yuri Baburov wrote:
> Moreover, new contributors are considered the least important
> creatures in the world!!!
As they say on Wikipedia, "[citation needed]". This list grows with
every new release:
http://code.djangoproject.com/browser/django/trunk/AUTHORS#L27
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Yuri Baburov wrote:
> how would you reformulate this in friendly and professional tone so
> this can be discussed?
I don't have time to teach you how to communicate professionally.
Reading your message first makes me feel angry, then dismayed. It
makes me feel a
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:52 AM, mrts wrote:
> Jacob, I'm afraid you totally misunderstood me.
> My message was intended to encourage people to
> scratch their own itches more now that it's so
> much easier -- and, of course, give back --
> instead of grumbling on the mailing list.
Yup, that's
Jacob, I'm afraid you totally misunderstood me.
My message was intended to encourage people to
scratch their own itches more now that it's so
much easier -- and, of course, give back --
instead of grumbling on the mailing list.
I fail to see how can "so it's time to put the
grudges behind and hap
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote:
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> Hi Yuri, Mart --
>
> I feel that I need to make it clear that I'm not ignoring you, or this
> conversation. However, the tone is so hostile and unprofessional that
> it'd be a waste of my time to try to engage, so I'm simply going to
>
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote:
>
> Hi Yuri, Mart --
>
> I feel that I need to make it clear that I'm not ignoring you, or this
> conversation. However, the tone is so hostile and unprofessional that
> it'd be a waste of my time to try to engage, so I'm simply going to
Hi Yuri, Mart --
I feel that I need to make it clear that I'm not ignoring you, or this
conversation. However, the tone is so hostile and unprofessional that
it'd be a waste of my time to try to engage, so I'm simply going to
stay out.
Jacob
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Hi Mart,
actually, you are half right. Fork & go.
Still the main reason I wrote wasn't recognized.
Total anarchy in Django team.
Core developers don't agree with each other on who will respond on
what kind of messages, what part of Django contributions is under
their maintenance.
Moreover, new
(Inspired by Yuri Baburov's criticism and RKM's response.)
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Let me suggest that there are many who have at
times felt frustrated how contributions or
suggestions are managed in Django. Some of them
seem to have walked away or just don't participate
in discussions any longer. The same applies to
several other large open source projects, the
Linux kernel and
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