Re: Extending JSONField serialization

2016-01-06 Thread Dwight Gunning
It's interesting that you say JSON Fields shouldn't be used for mission critical data. Is that widely recognised? I feel like there are genuine uses cases for using JSON Fields to store mission critical data. For instance, a Javascript single-page-app style client with a set of user

Vote on Jira as bugtracker

2016-01-06 Thread Victor Sosa
HI, I felt like lost using trac; it is kind of messy. I just don't feel comfortable with it. I see so many open source project using Jira that is just natural. Search is easy, categorize is easy, look through the all issues and task is quick. I would like to propose a vote on Jira as the

Re: Vote on Jira as bugtracker

2016-01-06 Thread Daniele Procida
On Wed, Jan 6, 2016, Victor Sosa wrote: >I felt like lost using trac; it is kind of messy. I just don't feel >comfortable >with it. >I see so many open source project using Jira that is just natural. Search >is easy, categorize is easy, look through the all issues and

Re: Vote on Jira as bugtracker

2016-01-06 Thread James Bennett
I'd be against such a change. I've used a lot of bug trackers, and the only thing I've learned is there is no good one; replacing one with another just swaps one set of annoying limitations/frustrations for another. And since there's a lot of inertia in whatever's currently being used, and it

Re: Vote on Jira as bugtracker

2016-01-06 Thread Victor Sosa
To answer you question: There is a plug-in to migrate all the data to Jira and similar to integrate with any it with any in you infrastructure. (I just don't know it all you infrastructure) https://confluence.atlassian.com/jira/importing-data-from-trac-238617182.html On Wednesday, January 6,

Re: Vote on Jira as bugtracker

2016-01-06 Thread Marc Tamlyn
Yeah, this is a non-starter for me. All bug trackers are bad, we should stick with the bad one we are used to. Marc On 6 January 2016 at 13:26, Victor Sosa wrote: > To answer you question: > There is a plug-in to migrate all the data to Jira and similar to > integrate

Re: Vote on Jira as bugtracker

2016-01-06 Thread Florian Apolloner
Ditto. On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 2:43:44 PM UTC+1, Marc Tamlyn wrote: > > Yeah, this is a non-starter for me. All bug trackers are bad, we should > stick with the bad one we are used to. > > Marc > > On 6 January 2016 at 13:26, Victor Sosa > wrote: > >> To answer

Re: Vote on Jira as bugtracker

2016-01-06 Thread Shai Berger
What Marc and James said, and in particular what Daniele said : I get to use Jira on a daily basis and find it cumbersome and confusing. Shai see On 6 בינואר 2016 15:43:02 GMT+02:00, Marc Tamlyn wrote: >Yeah, this is a non-starter for me. All bug trackers are bad, we

Re: Vote on Jira as bugtracker

2016-01-06 Thread Michael Manfre
Agreed with the above for the same reasons. On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Shai Berger wrote: > What Marc and James said, and in particular what Daniele said : I get to > use Jira on a daily basis and find it cumbersome and confusing. > > Shai see > > > On 6 בינואר 2016

Re: Extending JSONField serialization

2016-01-06 Thread Aymeric Augustin
Hello Dwight, I was trying to express the fact that JSONField is appropriate for storing data that won’t be used for joining other tables, filtering, aggregating, etc. but rather just for reading. “Not mission-critical” was a simplification. That said, data that meets the criteria above tends

Re: Vote on Jira as bugtracker

2016-01-06 Thread Aymeric Augustin
FWIW Jira seems to be an exception among bug trackers: some people really love it, others really hate it. It depends on who set it up and maintained it in the company where they used it. Since we don’t have a resident Jira expert, we run the risk that most of the Django community will fall

Re: Extending JSONField serialization

2016-01-06 Thread Tom Christie
Customizing the encoder (or even using DjangoJSONEncoder by default) isn't so bad. I'm less convinced about the usefulness of customizing the decoder - once you've encoded the data into JSON any additional type information is lost, so casting back to python primitives is always going to need

[Review Request] Added support for database delegated fields (like AutoField)

2016-01-06 Thread Owais Lone
Hi, I would really appreciate if someone could review the API design (and implementation) for a PR I created. The PR implements support for fields that are assigned a value by the database (using a default value or trigger) instead of Django. It also adds support for PostgreSQL’s RETURNING and

Re: Extending JSONField serialization

2016-01-06 Thread Michael Manfre
On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Tom Christie wrote: > Customizing the encoder (or even using DjangoJSONEncoder by default) isn't > so bad. > > I'm less convinced about the usefulness of customizing the decoder - once > you've encoded the data into JSON any additional type

Re: Vote on Jira as bugtracker

2016-01-06 Thread Nick Sarbicki
> > FWIW Jira seems to be an exception among bug trackers: some people really > love it, others really hate it. It depends on who set it up and maintained > it in the company where they used it. > > Since we don’t have a resident Jira expert, we run the risk that most of > the Django community

Re: Vote on Jira as bugtracker

2016-01-06 Thread Chris Foresman
For whatever it's worth, our company switched from Pivotal Tracker to JIRA because we added a QA team and they wanted all this flexibility in devising bug ticket "workflows." All it did from my perspective is add 47 layers of complexity on top of a massively confusing UI and insists on NOT

Re: Vote on Jira as bugtracker

2016-01-06 Thread Daniele Procida
On Wed, Jan 6, 2016, Daniele Procida wrote: >By all means it's useful to get votes on something like this, even >before we consider those questions, because if enough people want >something it's always possible - but be aware that simply getting lots >of votes for it would only

Re: Extending JSONField serialization

2016-01-06 Thread Dwight Gunning
Aymeric, thanks for clarifying. I take your point for joins although I'm a bit surprised you don't feel JSONFields are appropriate for filtering. I haven't tried yet but I am interested in the ability to efficiently index into the JSONField (thanks to use of Postgres' jsonb fields). That is, to

Re: got glossarium?

2016-01-06 Thread Doug Epling
For the third and final time, I appologize. On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 11:50:51 AM UTC-5, Doug Epling wrote: > > This thread is aimed at the specific issue pertaining to the Django > Glossary. > > But first, after noticing, by accident, a huge spike of views on my G+ > profile I think I

Re: Vote on Jira as bugtracker

2016-01-06 Thread Victor Sosa
Looks like it is a NO to the proposition. Daniele I like what I saw in taiga, that's a way better bug tracking UI; you can check here: https://tree.taiga.io/project/taiga/issues?page=1 On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 12:18:13 PM UTC-4, Daniele Procida wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016, Daniele

Re: Extending JSONField serialization

2016-01-06 Thread Raphaël Barrois
On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 10:27:01 -0500 Michael Manfre wrote: > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Tom Christie wrote: > > > Customizing the encoder (or even using DjangoJSONEncoder by default) isn't > > so bad. > > > > I'm less convinced about the usefulness

Re: 1.8 shipping invalid .py files in the startapp template

2016-01-06 Thread Tim Graham
The current pull request proposes to make a backwards-incompatible change by chopping off any ".tpl" suffix in app or project template files. i.e. "If you are using custom templates and these templates already use a ``.tpl`` suffix, you will need to append an additional ``.tpl`` (ie.

Re: 1.8 shipping invalid .py files in the startapp template

2016-01-06 Thread Claude Paroz
Le mercredi 6 janvier 2016 19:34:07 UTC+1, Tim Graham a écrit : > > The current pull request proposes to make a backwards-incompatible change > by chopping off any ".tpl" suffix in app or project template files. i.e. > "If you are using custom templates and these templates already use a >

[Off topic] Re: Extending JSONField serialization

2016-01-06 Thread Shai Berger
Pet peeve: Please ignore if you don't care about database technologies. On Wednesday 06 January 2016 17:12:34 Dwight Gunning wrote: > design models that are a hybrid of our traditional, schema-oriented > approach, but also include a JSON Field and offer the benefits of the more > recent

Re: Vote on Jira as bugtracker

2016-01-06 Thread Josh Smeaton
FWIW I actually like Jira (much more than Trac) and find it a lot easier to use. I think the trick is configuring very basic workflows so users don't have to fight through transitions. Open, Closed, Assigned/In Progress and transitions to and from each state would get us really close to the

Re: Vote on Jira as bugtracker

2016-01-06 Thread Tim Graham
To search Trac, use "site:code.djangoproject.com your query" in a Google search box. Works great in my experience. On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 6:42:44 PM UTC-5, Josh Smeaton wrote: > > FWIW I actually like Jira (much more than Trac) and find it a lot easier > to use. I think the trick is