Re: Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-25 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
Hi Asif - I don't think a DEP is the right approach. The problem isn't a controversial feature or a hard-to-design-API; it's that this is going to take a lot of time or money, and probably both. Writing a DEP won't answer the question of "how the heck are you going to find a half-dozen people who

Re: Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-25 Thread Asif Saifuddin
Hi jacob, happy to see your insightful reply. I think I'm going to start the process with a draft dep soon and I'm planning to devote my engagement in the development too. Will keep you suggestions in mind :) thanks, Asif On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 2:45:42 PM UTC+6, Asif Saifuddin wrote:

Re: Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-25 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
Hi Asif - You're probably noticing some pushback already, so I want to give you some background as to why that's the case. The admin may look simple on the surface, but it's shockingly complex and represents a ton of work. The original version was the work of a whole team (Simon, Adrian, Wilson,

Re: Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-25 Thread Marc Tamlyn
There are certainly elements of forms refactoring you would want to pull from the admin - read only fields and fieldsets being the two most obvious. At a guess, James is alluding to https://github.com/mjtamlyn/django-adapters, my currently stalled project to think about reworking the

Re: Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-25 Thread Asif Saifuddin
Hi is_null, form refactor is an important part but that shouldn't stop us from starting the process. thanks On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 3:19:36 PM UTC+6, is_null wrote: > > Shouldn't the forms refactor happen first ? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: Testing pre-release Django

2016-05-25 Thread Ola Sitarska
The way we do it for Djangae right now is creating a `support-110` branch whenever we've got some capacity to start working on it, or we wanna assess the amount of work required. Here is a current status for our Django 1.10 support

Re: Testing pre-release Django

2016-05-25 Thread James Pic
I've found testing your own projects on django master to be tremendously useful. Then, I don't have any surprise when I test on django alpha, everything passes and I have nothing to do. Not to mention the tremendous amount of things I learn on the way, at a slower, more regular pace. Compare this

Re: Testing pre-release Django

2016-05-25 Thread Tom Christie
> I'd be curious to hear from any third-party package maintainers how they feel about it. I've not found testing against master to be particularly helpful, as it's not apparent if an issue is substantial or not, without putting in work. The alpha releases *are* tremendously helpful for having

Re: Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-25 Thread James Pic
Shouldn't the forms refactor happen first ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-25 Thread Marc Tamlyn
Sure, give me 12 months of two full time experienced Django developers and we can rewrite the admin. Honestly, I think everyone knows the admin would benefit from a significant rewrite. However, as the efforts of admin2 proved, it's a huge job to undertake. The admin has a huge number of features

Rewriting admin internals

2016-05-25 Thread Asif Saifuddin
Hi, the admin app of django is consists of many old day codes. How about rewriting it with present day approaches? adopting ideas from django-admin2 where possible? and how about using jinja2 templates as default for admin? thanks, asif -- You received this message because you are