Re: Support for unittest -k option

[Luke Plant]

  
  
I use `--keepdb` a lot, I never knew there was a shorthand and
  even know I do know wouldn't use it. For things like this I
  usually find it easy to remember the long option. So I'm +1 on
  changing it too, without a new shorthand for `--keepdb`. In the
  keyword usage `-k` must be followed by a keyword, so for people
  who did use it the shorthand, the old usage will break loudly
  which is good.

Luke


On 11/03/2019 15:13, François Freitag
  wrote:


  Hi Django Devs,

https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/30245 suggests supporting Python
unittest `-k` option, to selectively run tests matching a keyword.

Currently, `-k` is the shorthand for `--keepdb` in Django.
A `--filter` flag was suggested to preserve backward compatibility.
Carlton suggested removing the `-k` option from `--keepdb` and reusing
it for unittest `-k`. That would follow unittest more closely, reduce
user confusion and ease maintenance.

What do you think is best? Do you see other options?

If re-taking the `-k` option for unittest `-k`, should a new shorthand
be introduced for `--keepdb`?

Thanks for your time,
François



  




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Re: Support for unittest -k option

[Arthur Rio]

I’m +1 on no short-hand. Also “kdb” is a little to close to “pdb” and
doesn’t really make sense to me.

—
Arthur

On March 11, 2019 at 3:33:50 PM, Dan Davis (dansm...@gmail.com) wrote:

I personally don't think a short-hand is needed.

On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 10:41 AM Tim Graham  wrote:

> -kdb could be a suitable short option.
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 9:20:37 AM UTC-4, Tobias McNulty wrote:
>>
>> Agreed it's probably better to make the switch now, and I'd be fine
>> without a replacement shorthand alternative for --keepdb.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> *Tobias McNulty*Chief Executive Officer
>>
>> tob...@caktusgroup.com
>> www.caktusgroup.com
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 8:19 AM Carlton Gibson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks François,
>>>
>>> Just on this, my thought is that if we don't follow `unittest` in
>>> changing `-k` for this, we have a steady trickle of confusion forever-more.
>>> I'd rather avoid that.
>>>
>>> C.
>>>
>>> On Monday, 11 March 2019 13:14:01 UTC+1, François Freitag wrote:

 Hi Django Devs,

 https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/30245 suggests supporting Python
 unittest `-k` option, to selectively run tests matching a keyword.

 Currently, `-k` is the shorthand for `--keepdb` in Django.
 A `--filter` flag was suggested to preserve backward compatibility.
 Carlton suggested removing the `-k` option from `--keepdb` and reusing
 it for unittest `-k`. That would follow unittest more closely, reduce
 user confusion and ease maintenance.

 What do you think is best? Do you see other options?

 If re-taking the `-k` option for unittest `-k`, should a new shorthand
 be introduced for `--keepdb`?

 Thanks for your time,
 François

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Re: Support for unittest -k option

[Dan Davis]

I personally don't think a short-hand is needed.

On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 10:41 AM Tim Graham  wrote:

> -kdb could be a suitable short option.
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 9:20:37 AM UTC-4, Tobias McNulty wrote:
>>
>> Agreed it's probably better to make the switch now, and I'd be fine
>> without a replacement shorthand alternative for --keepdb.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> *Tobias McNulty*Chief Executive Officer
>>
>> tob...@caktusgroup.com
>> www.caktusgroup.com
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 8:19 AM Carlton Gibson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks François,
>>>
>>> Just on this, my thought is that if we don't follow `unittest` in
>>> changing `-k` for this, we have a steady trickle of confusion forever-more.
>>> I'd rather avoid that.
>>>
>>> C.
>>>
>>> On Monday, 11 March 2019 13:14:01 UTC+1, François Freitag wrote:

 Hi Django Devs,

 https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/30245 suggests supporting Python
 unittest `-k` option, to selectively run tests matching a keyword.

 Currently, `-k` is the shorthand for `--keepdb` in Django.
 A `--filter` flag was suggested to preserve backward compatibility.
 Carlton suggested removing the `-k` option from `--keepdb` and reusing
 it for unittest `-k`. That would follow unittest more closely, reduce
 user confusion and ease maintenance.

 What do you think is best? Do you see other options?

 If re-taking the `-k` option for unittest `-k`, should a new shorthand
 be introduced for `--keepdb`?

 Thanks for your time,
 François

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Re: Support for unittest -k option

[Tim Graham]

-kdb could be a suitable short option.

On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 9:20:37 AM UTC-4, Tobias McNulty wrote:
>
> Agreed it's probably better to make the switch now, and I'd be fine 
> without a replacement shorthand alternative for --keepdb.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> *Tobias McNulty*Chief Executive Officer
>
> tob...@caktusgroup.com 
> www.caktusgroup.com
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 8:19 AM Carlton Gibson  > wrote:
>
>> Thanks François,
>>
>> Just on this, my thought is that if we don't follow `unittest` in 
>> changing `-k` for this, we have a steady trickle of confusion forever-more. 
>> I'd rather avoid that. 
>>
>> C.
>>
>> On Monday, 11 March 2019 13:14:01 UTC+1, François Freitag wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Django Devs, 
>>>
>>> https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/30245 suggests supporting Python 
>>> unittest `-k` option, to selectively run tests matching a keyword. 
>>>
>>> Currently, `-k` is the shorthand for `--keepdb` in Django. 
>>> A `--filter` flag was suggested to preserve backward compatibility. 
>>> Carlton suggested removing the `-k` option from `--keepdb` and reusing 
>>> it for unittest `-k`. That would follow unittest more closely, reduce 
>>> user confusion and ease maintenance. 
>>>
>>> What do you think is best? Do you see other options? 
>>>
>>> If re-taking the `-k` option for unittest `-k`, should a new shorthand 
>>> be introduced for `--keepdb`? 
>>>
>>> Thanks for your time, 
>>> François 
>>>
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Re: Support for unittest -k option

[Tobias McNulty]

Agreed it's probably better to make the switch now, and I'd be fine without
a replacement shorthand alternative for --keepdb.

Cheers,


*Tobias McNulty*Chief Executive Officer

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On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 8:19 AM Carlton Gibson 
wrote:

> Thanks François,
>
> Just on this, my thought is that if we don't follow `unittest` in changing
> `-k` for this, we have a steady trickle of confusion forever-more.
> I'd rather avoid that.
>
> C.
>
> On Monday, 11 March 2019 13:14:01 UTC+1, François Freitag wrote:
>>
>> Hi Django Devs,
>>
>> https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/30245 suggests supporting Python
>> unittest `-k` option, to selectively run tests matching a keyword.
>>
>> Currently, `-k` is the shorthand for `--keepdb` in Django.
>> A `--filter` flag was suggested to preserve backward compatibility.
>> Carlton suggested removing the `-k` option from `--keepdb` and reusing
>> it for unittest `-k`. That would follow unittest more closely, reduce
>> user confusion and ease maintenance.
>>
>> What do you think is best? Do you see other options?
>>
>> If re-taking the `-k` option for unittest `-k`, should a new shorthand
>> be introduced for `--keepdb`?
>>
>> Thanks for your time,
>> François
>>
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Re: Support for unittest -k option

[Adam Johnson]

+1 from me, I'm okay with the small breaking change to keep in-line with
upstream unittest. Since it's restricted to tests, it's unlikely to break
anyone's production site.

On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 at 12:19, Carlton Gibson 
wrote:

> Thanks François,
>
> Just on this, my thought is that if we don't follow `unittest` in changing
> `-k` for this, we have a steady trickle of confusion forever-more.
> I'd rather avoid that.
>
> C.
>
> On Monday, 11 March 2019 13:14:01 UTC+1, François Freitag wrote:
>>
>> Hi Django Devs,
>>
>> https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/30245 suggests supporting Python
>> unittest `-k` option, to selectively run tests matching a keyword.
>>
>> Currently, `-k` is the shorthand for `--keepdb` in Django.
>> A `--filter` flag was suggested to preserve backward compatibility.
>> Carlton suggested removing the `-k` option from `--keepdb` and reusing
>> it for unittest `-k`. That would follow unittest more closely, reduce
>> user confusion and ease maintenance.
>>
>> What do you think is best? Do you see other options?
>>
>> If re-taking the `-k` option for unittest `-k`, should a new shorthand
>> be introduced for `--keepdb`?
>>
>> Thanks for your time,
>> François
>>
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Re: Support for unittest -k option

[Carlton Gibson]

Thanks François,

Just on this, my thought is that if we don't follow `unittest` in changing 
`-k` for this, we have a steady trickle of confusion forever-more. 
I'd rather avoid that. 

C.

On Monday, 11 March 2019 13:14:01 UTC+1, François Freitag wrote:
>
> Hi Django Devs, 
>
> https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/30245 suggests supporting Python 
> unittest `-k` option, to selectively run tests matching a keyword. 
>
> Currently, `-k` is the shorthand for `--keepdb` in Django. 
> A `--filter` flag was suggested to preserve backward compatibility. 
> Carlton suggested removing the `-k` option from `--keepdb` and reusing 
> it for unittest `-k`. That would follow unittest more closely, reduce 
> user confusion and ease maintenance. 
>
> What do you think is best? Do you see other options? 
>
> If re-taking the `-k` option for unittest `-k`, should a new shorthand 
> be introduced for `--keepdb`? 
>
> Thanks for your time, 
> François 
>

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Support for unittest -k option

[François Freitag]

Hi Django Devs,

https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/30245 suggests supporting Python
unittest `-k` option, to selectively run tests matching a keyword.

Currently, `-k` is the shorthand for `--keepdb` in Django.
A `--filter` flag was suggested to preserve backward compatibility.
Carlton suggested removing the `-k` option from `--keepdb` and reusing
it for unittest `-k`. That would follow unittest more closely, reduce
user confusion and ease maintenance.

What do you think is best? Do you see other options?

If re-taking the `-k` option for unittest `-k`, should a new shorthand
be introduced for `--keepdb`?

Thanks for your time,
François

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