Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Nov 27, 2:13 pm, "James Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Solaris: I'm unable to find information detailing which Python >   version ships with various releases of Solaris and OpenSolaris. If >   anyone has that information, please post it in a reply. Solaris versions prior to 10 did

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-27 Thread James Bennett
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Tim Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I'm somewhere between -0 and -1 on the voting scale regarding > forced/long-range Python-version deprecation. But when a version > becomes sufficiently dead weight, slowing down Django's progress > like 2.3 seems to be

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-27 Thread Justin Lilly
On Nov 27, 2008, at 8:20 AM, Tim Chase wrote: > > However, I haven't seen any/much expression of *want* that 2.4 be > dropped any time in the near future (and there are a much larger > number of 2.4 deployments). I wouldn't schedule that "2.4 will > be dropped in Django 1.3" timetable, but

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-27 Thread Tim Chase
James Bennett wrote: > Apologies for the length of this email, Thanks, James, for your post-doctoral dissertation on the History and Cumulative Predicted Future of Python Versions and Their Interrelations With the Django Development Process. :-) (joking aside, it was an appreciated and

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-27 Thread David Larlet
Le 27 nov. 08 à 02:39, Eduardo O. Padoan a écrit : > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi folks -- >> >> I'd like to officially drop Python 2.3 support in Django 1.1. >> Discuss. >> >> Jacob > > +1 -- because reusable apps developers could

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-26 Thread James Bennett
Apologies for the length of this email, but I've been holding back on my thoughts about Python version compatibility for a while, mostly due to the fact that: 1. Until recently, we didn't have a stable Django release series on which to begin considering the process of dropping support in

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-26 Thread Eduardo O. Padoan
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi folks -- > > I'd like to officially drop Python 2.3 support in Django 1.1. Discuss. > > Jacob +1 -- because reusable apps developers could all close those py2.3-related bugs as wontfix. One less cost to share

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-26 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 01:42 -0800, mrts wrote: [...] > * Python 2.3 is officially not supported by Python developers since > 2.3.5; it >doesn't even receive security patches -- so, effectively, everybody > should >avoid using it (the same is true for 2.4, 2.4.5 is supposedly the > last

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-26 Thread David Cramer
+1 Update your damn distros. Generators are important :) On Nov 26, 10:33 am, "Gary Wilson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 7:23 AM, varikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 25, 7:16 pm, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> However, even saying

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-26 Thread Gary Wilson Jr.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 7:23 AM, varikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 25, 7:16 pm, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> However, even saying Django 1.1 is the last 2.3-compatible version and >> we drop it afterwards gives us a reasonable 3.0 support timeline, since >> our

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-26 Thread varikin
On Nov 25, 7:16 pm, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, even saying Django 1.1 is the last 2.3-compatible version and > we drop it afterwards gives us a reasonable 3.0 support timeline, since > our timeframe doesn't really encourage any official 3.0 support for 1.1. I am

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-26 Thread Luke Plant
On Wednesday 26 November 2008 01:16:00 Malcolm Tredinnick wrote: > However, even saying Django 1.1 is the last 2.3-compatible version > and we drop it afterwards gives us a reasonable 3.0 support > timeline, since our timeframe doesn't really encourage any official > 3.0 support for 1.1.

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-26 Thread mrts
On Nov 26, 3:20 am, Julien Phalip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 26, 11:43 am, "Russell Keith-Magee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:08 AM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi folks -- > > > > I'd like to officially drop Python 2.3

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-26 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, even saying Django 1.1 is the last 2.3-compatible version and > we drop it afterwards gives us a reasonable 3.0 support timeline, since > our timeframe doesn't really encourage any official 3.0 support

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-26 Thread Ben Godfrey
+1 to Malcolm and Julien. Having a clear roadmap before you make changes is really helpful. I've been bitten by changes appearing in code suddenly because I've tuned out for a few weeks. There is always the option of sticking to an earlier revision, but that doesn't help for long. I also agree

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-26 Thread Hanne Moa
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 18:08, Jacob Kaplan-Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to officially drop Python 2.3 support in Django 1.1. Discuss. Yes please. Maybe put up a poll, prominently, on the djangoproject.com homepage? Maybe make a timeline? Drop 2.3-support by date x, drop

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-25 Thread Julien Phalip
On Nov 26, 11:43 am, "Russell Keith-Magee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:08 AM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi folks -- > > > I'd like to officially drop Python 2.3 support in Django 1.1. Discuss. > > I'm going to be the stick in the mud and say

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-25 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 09:43 +0900, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:08 AM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi folks -- > > > > I'd like to officially drop Python 2.3 support in Django 1.1. Discuss. > > I'm going to be the stick in the mud and say -0.

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-25 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Russell Keith-Magee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know the GIS stuff is bound to 2.4+, but other than this, is there > any particularly compelling reason to drop 2.3 support other than the > annoyance factor for 1.1? I'm just not convinced that the first minor >

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-25 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:08 AM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi folks -- > > I'd like to officially drop Python 2.3 support in Django 1.1. Discuss. I'm going to be the stick in the mud and say -0. I don't have any particular love of or need for Python 2.3, but it has taken

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-25 Thread zvoase
+1 For me, too. If people want to use the cutting-edge Django release then they can at least update Python to 2.4 (which is now 4 years old anyway). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-25 Thread Antoni Aloy
+1 for me too 2.4 is still quite conservative :) The actual Django stable version is good enought to let people developing in until the decide/can move to a new version -- Antoni Aloy López Blog: http://trespams.com Site: http://apsl.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-25 Thread Justin Bronn
+1. Eliminates a ton of compatibility code, e.g., no more carrying around a three thousand line Decimal implementation. -Justin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-25 Thread Tim Chase
> I'd like to officially drop Python 2.3 support in Django 1.1. > Discuss. +0.5 (not withstanding any panic'ed folks saying "I need 2.3!", consider it a +1) I think Debian Stable has moved to 2.4. All the servers that I touch currently with 2.3 on them now also have 2.4 on them. Yay,

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-25 Thread Jannis Leidel
> I'd like to officially drop Python 2.3 support in Django 1.1. +1, every single reason that has been stated convinces me of dropping support for 2.3. Cheers, Jannis --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-25 Thread Ned Batchelder
One way to collect feedback would be to make one small change to the code that would require 2.4, and ship 1.1 that way. Then we'd hear from people who really couldn't run 1.1, but we haven't made too large a change yet, so if we wanted to re-enable them we could. I realize this means

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-25 Thread Horst Gutmann
Big +1 from me. Finally real decorators, generators and not to forget sets as built-in type :D -- Horst On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Brian Rosner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi folks -- >> >> I'd like

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-25 Thread Brian Rosner
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi folks -- > > I'd like to officially drop Python 2.3 support in Django 1.1. Discuss. +1. This needs to happen. Python 2.3 is getting pretty old and I would imagine that most people have at least 2.4 available to

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sounds double plus good(+1) from me. That being said, it's been said before that Djagno-dev, even if 20 people are vocally in favor of something, is a tiny fraction of all the people using Django, is there perhaps a better/more objective way of collecting feedback(the obviously, perhaps only,

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-25 Thread Ivan Sagalaev
Ludvig Ericson wrote: > On Nov 25, 2008, at 18:08, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: >> I'd like to officially drop Python 2.3 support in Django 1.1. Discuss. > > Oh god please, YES! Gimme my decorator syntax sugar, oh yeah. ... and generator expressions, too! +1

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-25 Thread J. Cliff Dyer
I was hesitant on this when I heard rumblings of it around 1.0, but my workplace is finally getting off RHEL 4, which had Py 2.3, so I no longer have an issue with dropping 2.3 support. RHEL 5 is at 2.4. Are other places are still stuck with RHEL 4? Even before, the install notes for

Re: Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-25 Thread Ludvig Ericson
On Nov 25, 2008, at 18:08, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: > I'd like to officially drop Python 2.3 support in Django 1.1. Discuss. Oh god please, YES! Gimme my decorator syntax sugar, oh yeah. - Ludvig. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are

Dropping Python 2.3 compatibility for Django 1.1

2008-11-25 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
Hi folks -- I'd like to officially drop Python 2.3 support in Django 1.1. Discuss. Jacob --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to