Re: Overhaul extra_requires to include more optional dependencies

2017-12-30 Thread emorley
Thank you for looking into this!

Another benefit alongside ease of install and discoverability, is that it 
makes the requirements files of projects using Django more self-documenting 
(in that it avoids stray dependency entries that appear to be unused, but 
actually aren't - and so need a comment to explain what uses them). See 
also the related open ticket https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/27682.

Re the single package entries, I think there is still value in having them, 
so long as they are named by feature rather than by package name. eg 
`Django[crypto]` vs `Django[bcrypt]`. This allows the particular choice of 
library to be a Django implementation detail that can be adjusted without 
needing requirements file changes.

Ed

On Monday, 11 December 2017 10:26:11 UTC, jr...@leukeleu.nl wrote:
>
> Django has a number of optional features that require the installation of 
> additional Python packages.
>
>
> Right now it's possible to $ pip install Django[bcrypt,argon2] to install 
> Django and the optional packages (at the correct minimum version) required 
> for bcrypt/argon2 support.
>
>
> However this is not possible for other optional features, like 
> database/cache backend, gis, certain image related features etc.
>
> I've created a pull request adding the optional dependencies found in the 
> test requirements: https://github.com/django/django/pull/9440 / 
> https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/28905
>
> So end users can do things like:
>
>
> $ pip install Django[mysql,sqlparse,images,memcached]
> $ pip install Django[postgresql,gis]
> $ pip install Django[selenium,test-parallel]
>  
>
> Not only would this make it much easier to install a particular 
> combination of Django and optional dependencies correctly, it also makes 
> some of the optional features/dependencies a little bit more discoverable.
> This might not the full set of optional dependencies, or the right 
> grouping/naming, so a review is more than welcome (i.e. should sqlparse 
> be added to the mysql/oracle extra requirements? Should a sqlite extra be 
> added that only includes sqlparse?).
>  
> Besides adding this to setup.py, additional changes to the documentation, 
> test instructions and scripts, code warnings etc. will probably be 
> necessary.
>
> If anyone objects to adding these extra requirements I'd also like to hear 
> about it.
>

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Re: Overhaul extra_requires to include more optional dependencies

2017-12-29 Thread Reinout van Rees

Op 11-12-17 om 11:26 schreef jr...@leukeleu.nl:
Django has a number of optional features that require the installation 
of additional Python packages.

>
> ... snip ...


I've created a pull request adding the optional dependencies found in 
the test requirements: https://github.com/django/django/pull/9440 / 
https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/28905


So end users can do things like:


$ pip install Django[mysql,sqlparse,images,memcached]
$ pip install Django[postgresql,gis]
$ pip install Django[selenium,test-parallel]


Good idea! I have two comments:


First, in the ticket, I see psycopg2 as requirement for the "postgresql" 
extra. Fine. That's totally required.
For the "gis" extra it is numpy and geoip2. Numpy isn't strictly 
required: according to the readme it is 'highly recommended'.


=> What is the meaning of such an 'extra'? Does it contain 'highly 
recommended' and higher? Or also optional packages?


You *do* mention 'optional' in the ticket. So if I do 'Django[gis]' I 
ought to get every package that's mentioned as "hey, that's handy" in 
the documentation, right?




Second, I wonder whether the one-item extras are really needed. If you 
want to use numpy, you'll install numpy yourself. You don't really need 
'Django[numpy]' to tell you to install numpy.


admindocs->docutils: yes, that's handy
numpy->numpy: seems less useful
gis->numpy and geoip2: yes, useful




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Overhaul extra_requires to include more optional dependencies

2017-12-11 Thread jroes


Django has a number of optional features that require the installation of 
additional Python packages.


Right now it's possible to $ pip install Django[bcrypt,argon2] to install 
Django and the optional packages (at the correct minimum version) required 
for bcrypt/argon2 support.


However this is not possible for other optional features, like 
database/cache backend, gis, certain image related features etc.

I've created a pull request adding the optional dependencies found in the 
test requirements: https://github.com/django/django/pull/9440 / 
https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/28905

So end users can do things like:


$ pip install Django[mysql,sqlparse,images,memcached]
$ pip install Django[postgresql,gis]
$ pip install Django[selenium,test-parallel]
 

Not only would this make it much easier to install a particular combination 
of Django and optional dependencies correctly, it also makes some of the 
optional features/dependencies a little bit more discoverable.
This might not the full set of optional dependencies, or the right 
grouping/naming, so a review is more than welcome (i.e. should sqlparse be 
added to the mysql/oracle extra requirements? Should a sqlite extra be 
added that only includes sqlparse?).
 
Besides adding this to setup.py, additional changes to the documentation, 
test instructions and scripts, code warnings etc. will probably be 
necessary.

If anyone objects to adding these extra requirements I'd also like to hear 
about it.

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