Re: Forms vs. Admin?

2007-10-02 Thread AndyB
Although I think this view is mostly true at the moment I have a feeling that it will change in the near future. The admin pages are currently fairly customisable and newforms-admin expands this capability extensively. The problem is two-fold: 1. Documentation in this area is fairly weak and a

Re: Forms vs. Admin?

2007-10-02 Thread DJango Fett
All, I am new to DJango and web frameworks. I've gone through the tutorial to make the Poll application. The way I see it, the Admin module is for the site builders to have an automatic interface to maintain the look-up tables (sometimes called domain tables). These are the tables that

Re: Forms vs. Admin?

2007-10-02 Thread eXt
I'll give you a real life example: 1. Admin panel is used by fully priviledged administartor who is one of the application developers (app producents team). 2. The same Admin panel is used by Application Admin who is a person delegated by a customer (he is in fact a more priviledged application

Re: Forms vs. Admin?

2007-10-01 Thread cjl
John: > I mostly meant your tutorials. Not sure what your "instant code" does > since we don't happen to use windows. Thanks for clearing that up. The 'Instant Django' code is really just a batch file, nothing too complicated. The idea was that when someone wants to mess around with Django,

Re: Forms vs. Admin?

2007-10-01 Thread staff-gmail
cjl wrote: > John: > > >> I think it would actually be of more benefit if you could/would >> contribute this to the django project and have it on the project site. >> That way we can all contribute to it and make it even better. >> > > Are you referring to my 'Instant Django' website? > >

Re: Forms vs. Admin?

2007-10-01 Thread cjl
Marty: Thank you for your reply. I like your point of view, and it makes sense to me. To paraphrase: Admin is a good way to quickly get under the hood and work with the 'raw' data, not a way for users to interact with your web application. I guess that I misunderstood the official tutorial.

Re: Forms vs. Admin?

2007-10-01 Thread cjl
John: > I think it would actually be of more benefit if you could/would > contribute this to the django project and have it on the project site. > That way we can all contribute to it and make it even better. Are you referring to my 'Instant Django' website? I would have no problems

Re: Forms vs. Admin?

2007-10-01 Thread staff-gmail
I think it would actually be of more benefit if you could/would contribute this to the django project and have it on the project site. That way we can all contribute to it and make it even better. cjl wrote: > I'm a Django and web-development newcomer, working on a tutorial for > other

Re: Forms vs. Admin?

2007-10-01 Thread Marty Alchin
On 10/1/07, cjl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, I guess my question is: In a mature web application developed with > Django, is admin really used for anything? Or, now that newforms- > admin is almost here, is there any difference between admin and forms? > Will admin just be another form, with

Re: Forms vs. Admin?

2007-10-01 Thread cjl
HG: Thank you for your reply. I guess I don't really have a well-formed question, but I having trouble thinking of an example of using the admin interface that isn't artificial. It seems that admin might be good when you are developing a website or application to quickly add and edit data, but

Re: Forms vs. Admin?

2007-10-01 Thread staff-gmail
I just posted a ticket (documentation #5645) for something similar - I also think the choice is confusing to new users sooo, let's get some documentation improved on this - feel free to contribute to the ticket - I'll try to do likewise. Horst Gutmann wrote: > Do you mean for other users

Re: Forms vs. Admin?

2007-10-01 Thread Horst Gutmann
Do you mean for other users but yourself? In this case IMO you can compare giving someone access to the admin backend to giving someone access to something like phpMyAdmin. So basically you want to give this privilege only to those people, you can 100% trust and who should be able to change

Forms vs. Admin?

2007-10-01 Thread cjl
I'm a Django and web-development newcomer, working on a tutorial for other newcomers like me: http://www.instantdjango.com Anyway, I am working on the second chapter of my tutorial, and want to show people how the 'admin' interface works. I am using the 'newforms- admin' branch for this