Re: [dmarc-ietf] Shortcuts: parent-child allows shorter tree walks

2022-08-01 Thread John Levine
It appears that Alessandro Vesely said: >> You could make the argument that you "usually" find DMARC records at zone >> cuts, but that's relying on convention or happenstance rather than a >> standards-quality framework. > >I'd agree, except that our definition of Organizational Domain as one

Re: [dmarc-ietf] no zone cuts, no Shortcuts

2022-08-01 Thread John R Levine
I didn't use zone cut /instead of/ organizational domain. The paragraph I wrote was meant to introduce readers to the network topology onto which organizational domains are defined, so as to justify the algorithm. But zone cuts are irrelevant to the tree walk and have nothing to do with the w

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Shortcuts: parent-child allows shorter tree walks

2022-08-01 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Mon 01/Aug/2022 00:12:45 +0200 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 4:29 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: On Fri 29/Jul/2022 19:44:28 +0200 John Levine wrote: It appears that Alessandro Vesely said: In general, it is not possible to determine DNS zone cuts by querying

Re: [dmarc-ietf] no zone cuts, no Shortcuts

2022-08-01 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Sun 31/Jul/2022 17:05:07 +0200 Barry Leiba wrote: The point is that "zone cut" and "organizational domain" aren't the same thing, and what DMARC cares about is the latter. But here we're just talking about our own understanding of the terminology. Ale, if you use "organizational domain" inst