Re: [dmarc-discuss] FBL via DMARC?

2016-11-30 Thread John Levine via dmarc-discuss
>> But see https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-levine-herkula-oneclick/ >Is this really a good idea? Spammers will add this new header as they added >List-Unsubscribe headers as well and you will kindly validate the spammed >email address if a user marks it as junk. There are much, much,

Re: [dmarc-discuss] FBL via DMARC?

2016-11-30 Thread Juri Haberland via dmarc-discuss
On 29.11.2016 19:06, John Levine via dmarc-discuss wrote: > But see https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-levine-herkula-oneclick/ > > This is likely to be an RFC soon, and is apparently already > implemented at some large webmail providers. You can put a new header > in your message which

Re: [dmarc-discuss] FBL via DMARC?

2016-11-30 Thread Paul Rock via dmarc-discuss
At AOL we're doing this with a confirmation popup in clients we control and then sending a unsubscribe mail on behalf of the user when we find unsubscribe mailto links, and I know that some 3rd party clients also have started to implement unsubscribe logic (iOS 10 does so for example). I also know

Re: [dmarc-discuss] FBL via DMARC?

2016-11-29 Thread John R Levine via dmarc-discuss
What would be great is if this RFC could have some language discussing having a confirmation dialog to prevent these accidental mistakes from happening. It does. It says that the whole point of this draft is to have a non-interactive unsubscribe that mail systems can do in the background

Re: [dmarc-discuss] FBL via DMARC?

2016-11-29 Thread Mark Fletcher via dmarc-discuss
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 10:06 AM, John Levine via dmarc-discuss < dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org> wrote: > In article <864f7119-9912-7143-7cc4-b2c10ca1f...@delegated.net> you write: > >Has there been any discussion about using DMARC to configure spam > complaint feedback loops? > > No, for reasons

Re: [dmarc-discuss] FBL via DMARC?

2016-11-28 Thread Roland Turner via dmarc-discuss
13:33 To: Roland Turner Cc: DMARC Discussion List Subject: Re: [dmarc-discuss] FBL via DMARC? Hi, these are all solvable while still remaining within the DMARC domain: e.g. enabling detailed reports only after a specific signup procedure. most large receivers do have a feedback loop in place, ev

Re: [dmarc-discuss] FBL via DMARC?

2016-11-28 Thread Roland Turner via dmarc-discuss
29 November 2016 12:22 To: dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org Subject: [dmarc-discuss] FBL via DMARC? Has there been any discussion about using DMARC to configure spam complaint feedback loops? Currently it is only feasible to register for the big ESPs and can be tough to keep them up to date. DMAR

[dmarc-discuss] FBL via DMARC?

2016-11-28 Thread Jonathan Knopp via dmarc-discuss
Has there been any discussion about using DMARC to configure spam complaint feedback loops? Currently it is only feasible to register for the big ESPs and can be tough to keep them up to date. DMARC could make this automatic and universal. It would be well within DMARC's mandate of domain