Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements

2012-11-27 Thread h chan
...@ietf.org [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sérgio Figueiredo Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 5:24 PM To: dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements Hi Anthony, Thank you for trying to progress on this matter. I mostly agree with your analysis. As for the question you posed

Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements

2012-11-19 Thread pierrick.seite
, Pierrick De : dmm-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de karag...@cs.utwente.nl Envoyé : samedi 17 novembre 2012 13:01 À : seilj...@av.it.pt; juancarlos.zun...@interdigital.com Cc : dmm@ietf.org Objet : Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements Hi all, I also agree that the DMM

Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements

2012-11-19 Thread Seil Jeon
: dmm@ietf.org Subject: RE: [DMM] Multicast requirements Hi all, I tend to agree with Georgious, however I still do not figure out what is the use-case for distributed mobile multicast (other than academic considerations)? Can someone give concrete example? I haven’t real all messages

Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements

2012-11-17 Thread karagian
: Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements Hi Juan, I've been looked at changed flow of your proposed text but sorry now that my comment is posted. At first time, I couldn't make sure however, on hearing Stig's description, it seems quite reasonable at the first step, not giving any restrictions

Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements

2012-11-16 Thread Sérgio Figueiredo
; Behcet Sarikaya; dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements In the DMM case my assumption is that the anchor points are closer to the access routers and therefore are very likely to be in the same administrative domain. In these cases, joining the multicast group directly from the access

Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements

2012-11-16 Thread Stig Venaas
On 11/15/2012 3:17 AM, jouni korhonen wrote: On Nov 15, 2012, at 1:03 AM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: I think we are reading too much into multicast and unicast should be designed in an integrated manner. The fact is that multicast is considered as an area of specialization, it requires

Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements

2012-11-15 Thread jouni korhonen
On Nov 15, 2012, at 1:03 AM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: I think we are reading too much into multicast and unicast should be designed in an integrated manner. The fact is that multicast is considered as an area of specialization, it requires knowledge of very different protocols than we are

Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements

2012-11-14 Thread Konstantinos Pentikousis
Hi Behcet |As you know, Costas has changed his view thinking wider. I didn't change my view :) Maybe it was not so clearly explained, apologies for that. I think that it does not harm to have a separate REQ no. 7 addressing multicast along the lines previously mentioned in the mailing list.

Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements

2012-11-13 Thread Konstantinos Pentikousis
Hi, |I can tell you that in Multimob meeting in Atlanta, we have not |discussed any requirements. Indeed. I was at the multicast meeting in Atlanta, well, the better part of it, and I do not recall any excitement about working on the requirements for multicast support in DMM. On the

Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements

2012-11-13 Thread jouni korhonen
On Nov 13, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Konstantinos Pentikousis wrote: Hi Juan Carlos, all, |Requirement: DMM solutions SHOULD support multicast services. In case |the solution does not address multicast, a justification MUST be provided |for the omission of multicast from the solution. I like

Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements

2012-11-13 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Jouni, Requirement: DMM solutions SHOULD support multicast services. So here it is a should. If a specific DMM solution does not support multicast services, an explanation MUST be provided. Why is it a must here? My comment on this requirement is in mobility area, we have never had

Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements

2012-11-13 Thread jouni korhonen
Behcet, On Nov 14, 2012, at 4:35 AM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: Hi Jouni, Requirement: DMM solutions SHOULD support multicast services. So here it is a should. It seems so. If a specific DMM solution does not support multicast services, an explanation MUST be provided. Why is it a

[DMM] Multicast requirements

2012-11-12 Thread jouni korhonen
Folks, This mail is to kick off the discussion on multicast requirement(s) for the draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-02 document. I hope we can nail down the essential multicast requirement(s) as soon as possible. - Jouni ___ dmm mailing list dmm@ietf.org

Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements

2012-11-12 Thread Peter McCann
jouni korhonen wrote: Folks, This mail is to kick off the discussion on multicast requirement(s) for the draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-02 document. I hope we can nail down the essential multicast requirement(s) as soon as possible. To me, multicast in a DMM environment means joining multicast

Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements

2012-11-12 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Jouni, This discussion originated by a presentation in Multimob of a draft on IP Multicast Use Cases and Analysis over Distributed Mobility Management, http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sfigueiredo-multimob-use-case-dmm-03. This draft is on use cases not on requirements. The author, Seil

Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements

2012-11-12 Thread Seil Jeon
Of Peter McCann Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:53 PM To: Thomas C. Schmidt Cc: Stig Venaas; Behcet Sarikaya; dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements In the DMM case my assumption is that the anchor points are closer to the access routers and therefore are very likely

Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements

2012-11-12 Thread Zuniga, Juan Carlos
, please suggest it. Regards, Juan Carlos -Original Message- From: Sérgio Figueiredo [mailto:sfigueir...@av.it.pt] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 6:46 PM To: Zuniga, Juan Carlos Cc: dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements Hi Juan Carlos, Don't get me wrong. Although