Re: [DMM] IETF#90 DMM agenda update

2014-07-23 Thread pierrick.seite
-Message d'origine- De : dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Behcet Sarikaya Envoyé : mardi 22 juillet 2014 19:04 À : Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) Cc : dmm@ietf.org Objet : Re: [DMM] IETF#90 DMM agenda update On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) sgund

Re: [DMM] IETF#90 DMM agenda update

2014-07-23 Thread Dirk.von-Hugo
. Juli 2014 10:13 To: sarik...@ieee.org; Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) Cc: dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] IETF#90 DMM agenda update -Message d'origine- De : dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Behcet Sarikaya Envoyé : mardi 22 juillet 2014 19:04 À : Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) Cc

Re: [DMM] IETF#90 DMM agenda update

2014-07-23 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
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Re: [DMM] IETF#90 DMM agenda update

2014-07-23 Thread Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
Of pierrick.se...@orange.com Sent: Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2014 10:13 To: sarik...@ieee.org; Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) Cc: dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] IETF#90 DMM agenda update -Message d'origine- De : dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Behcet Sarikaya Envoyé : mardi 22

Re: [DMM] IETF#90 DMM agenda update

2014-07-23 Thread Jouni Korhonen
Behcet, 7/23/2014 5:16 PM, Behcet Sarikaya kirjoitti: Hi Jouni, On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Jouni Korhonen jouni.nos...@gmail.com wrote: Folks, meetings and setting up small groups (or design teams) to work on the ^^^ Design teams? Exact form

Re: [DMM] IETF#90 DMM agenda update

2014-07-23 Thread Brian Haberman
On 7/23/14 10:16 AM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: So my question is what guarantees that is the DT is going to produce the right solution and why repeat the history again? Who said that *if* a DT is formed that its output is considered special? http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/design-team.html

Re: [DMM] IETF#90 DMM agenda update

2014-07-23 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Brian Haberman br...@innovationslab.net wrote: On 7/23/14 10:16 AM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: So my question is what guarantees that is the DT is going to produce the right solution and why repeat the history again? Who said that *if* a DT is formed that its

Re: [DMM] IETF#90 DMM agenda update

2014-07-23 Thread Brian Haberman
On 7/23/14 10:49 AM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Brian Haberman br...@innovationslab.net wrote: On 7/23/14 10:16 AM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: So my question is what guarantees that is the DT is going to produce the right solution and why repeat the history again?

Re: [DMM] IETF#90 DMM agenda update

2014-07-22 Thread Brian Haberman
On 7/22/14 10:49 AM, Jouni Korhonen wrote: Folks, The agenda has been slightly updated (shuffling around the slots and arranging more time to the charter/next steps discussion). Some presenters are affected slightly (-5 minutes). see http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/90/agenda/agenda-90-dmm

Re: [DMM] IETF#90 DMM agenda update

2014-07-22 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Brian, On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Brian Haberman br...@innovationslab.net wrote: On 7/22/14 10:49 AM, Jouni Korhonen wrote: Folks, The agenda has been slightly updated (shuffling around the slots and arranging more time to the charter/next steps discussion). Some presenters are

Re: [DMM] IETF#90 DMM agenda update

2014-07-22 Thread Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
Behcet, Check some of the documents in MPLS/Routing areas. DMM to most part is about deployment. Without bringing the deployment aspects, documenting DMM solutions will be immature. Sri On 7/22/14 8:08 AM, Behcet Sarikaya sarikaya2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brian, On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at

Re: [DMM] IETF#90 DMM agenda update

2014-07-22 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Sri, On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) sgund...@cisco.com wrote: Behcet, Check some of the documents in MPLS/Routing areas. Sorry, I am familiar with those areas, they are not in Intarea :-). DMM to most part is about deployment. Without bringing the

Re: [DMM] IETF#90 DMM agenda update

2014-07-22 Thread Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
Alternatively, you capture the deployment models and then identify the solution gaps or solutions that meet the goals ... Sorry, I am familiar with those areas, they are not in Intarea :-). RFC-6674; A solution driven by a deployment requirement. Sri On 7/22/14 9:36 AM, Behcet Sarikaya

Re: [DMM] IETF#90 DMM agenda update

2014-07-22 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
You are talking about Gateway Initiated DS-Lite (RFC 6674). That is a solution based on DS-Lite, i.e. a variation of DS-Lite or RFC 6333. Again, my plea to you, please come up with your draft and let WG see what you propose. That is the right way to go. Behcet On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:48