Re: [Dng] greets

2015-03-10 Thread Peter Olson
> On March 10, 2015 at 7:09 PM Go Linux wrote: > > > On Tue, 3/10/15, hellekin wrote: > > Subject: Re: [Dng] greets > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2015, 11:32 AM > > On 03/10/15 11:57, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > LOL > > > *** Can you expand the acronym? I'm not sure I

[Dng] Devuan governance

2015-03-10 Thread Hendrik Boom
(changed the Subject to reflect thread drift) On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:53:01PM +, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > until they've been a > > member > > What constitutes Devuan membership? > ___ > Dn

Re: [Dng] greets

2015-03-10 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > until they've been a > member What constitutes Devuan membership? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] greets

2015-03-10 Thread Go Linux
On Tue, 3/10/15, hellekin wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] greets To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2015, 11:32 AM On 03/10/15 11:57, Steve Litt wrote: > > LOL > *** Can you expand the acronym? I'm not sure I find anything funny here. == hk

Re: [Dng] greets

2015-03-10 Thread Go Linux
On Tue, 3/10/15, Hendrik Boom wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] greets To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2015, 5:44 PM On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:04:26PM +0100, Peter Maloney wrote: >> especially hope it doesn't say anything like "anyone can join en masse >> and override all the decis

Re: [Dng] greets

2015-03-10 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:04:26PM +0100, Peter Maloney wrote: > especially hope it doesn't say anything like "anyone can join en masse > and override all the decisions completely overnight". In churches, especially those rules by the congregation, this is called steeplejacking. My church has

Re: [Dng] greets

2015-03-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 13:32:04 -0300 hellekin wrote: > On 03/10/15 11:57, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > LOL > > > *** Can you expand the acronym? I'm not sure I find anything funny > here. > > == > hk Laughing Out Loud... I find everything concerning Debian to be hillarious. Most of all their gov

Re: [Dng] greets

2015-03-10 Thread Peter Maloney
On 03/10/2015 05:32 PM, hellekin wrote: > On 03/10/15 11:57, Steve Litt wrote: >>> I agree with you that Devuan governance needs to differ from Debian's, >>> and that is must consider the general interest as well as respect the >>> particular. >> >> LOL >> > *** Can you expand the acronym? I'm not

Re: [Dng] Finding systemd

2015-03-10 Thread fsmithred
I installed squeeze about a week ago, from the xfce/lxde CD-1. Took the default desktop install and added a bunch of stuff. This is what I get: # locate systemd /usr/include/jack/systemdeps.h Which is part of jackd, not systemd. And this: # apt-cache policy systemd N: Unable to locate package

Re: [Dng] Devuan foundational philosophy: was greets

2015-03-10 Thread T.J. Duchene
-Original Message- From: Steve Litt [mailto:sl...@troubleshooters.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 9:52 AM To: dng@lists.dyne.org Subject: [Dng] Devuan foundational philosophy: was greets Hi KatolaZ, Naturally, my crystal ball is no better than anybody else's, but my prediction is t

Re: [Dng] Devuan foundational philosophy: was greets

2015-03-10 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:51:52AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 18:19:56 + > KatolaZ wrote: > > > > Devuan is the final name (at the moment! :P) and is really > > happening. It is a fork of Debian with the clear intention of creating > > and maintaining a Debian in which ini

Re: [Dng] greets

2015-03-10 Thread hellekin
On 03/10/15 11:57, Steve Litt wrote: > > LOL > *** Can you expand the acronym? I'm not sure I find anything funny here. == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture Foundry * https://www.dyne.org/donate/

Re: [Dng] greets

2015-03-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 09 Mar 2015 22:18:41 -0300 hellekin wrote: > On 03/09/15 19:26, Christopher Barry wrote: > > > > these democratic ideas. Unfortunately, just like in real government, > > special interests can stack the deck (e.g. dominate committees) and > > push things that are self serving and maybe no

[Dng] Devuan foundational philosophy: was greets

2015-03-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 18:19:56 + KatolaZ wrote: > Devuan is the final name (at the moment! :P) and is really > happening. It is a fork of Debian with the clear intention of creating > and maintaining a Debian in which init freedom is guaranteed (which > initially will boil down to eradicate sys

Re: [Dng] Finding systemd

2015-03-10 Thread Eugene Bolshakoff
Hello everybody, as I wrote before in another thread, I had found systemd in my laptop's Debian testing (periodically updated). But PID 1 is still init. I was confused very much. Also, in some cases it's impossible to have fresh install. For servers, for example. Also in my workstation I use De

Re: [Dng] Finding systemd

2015-03-10 Thread etech3
I am going to reinstall to test to make sure. On 03/10/2015 06:56 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Montag, 9. März 2015, 19:45:05 schrieb etech3: Hi everybody In a follow up to preparing for Devuan, I started going back to see if I could find systemd. Yes I know, I know. But what I did was sta

Re: [Dng] Finding systemd

2015-03-10 Thread etech3
Anto These were fresh installs. On 03/10/2015 03:43 AM, Anto wrote: On 10/03/15 01:21, Go Linux wrote: On Mon, 3/9/15, etech3 wrote: Subject: [Dng] Finding systemd To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, March 9, 2015, 6:45 PM Hi everybody In a follow up to preparing for Devuan, I starte

Re: [Dng] Finding systemd

2015-03-10 Thread etech3
The 6.0.7 net install had the firmware extras on it. I think that is where is came from. The 6.0.6 business card net install CD did not have systemd at all. I'm going going to run the installs again to check. I'll report back. On 03/10/2015 03:43 AM, Anto wrote: On 10/03/15 01:21, Go Linux wr

Re: [Dng] Finding systemd

2015-03-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 9. März 2015, 19:45:05 schrieb etech3: > Hi everybody > > In a follow up to preparing for Devuan, I started going back to see if I > could find systemd. Yes I know, I know. But what I did was start by > installing just a base install of Squeeze. Just the base standard > install. The onl

Re: [Dng] Finding systemd

2015-03-10 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 10/03/2015 08:43, Anto a écrit : On 10/03/15 01:21, Go Linux wrote: On Mon, 3/9/15, etech3 wrote: Subject: [Dng] Finding systemd To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, March 9, 2015, 6:45 PM Hi everybody In a follow up to preparing for Devuan, I started going back to see if I could

Re: [Dng] Finding systemd

2015-03-10 Thread Anto
On 10/03/15 01:21, Go Linux wrote: On Mon, 3/9/15, etech3 wrote: Subject: [Dng] Finding systemd To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, March 9, 2015, 6:45 PM Hi everybody In a follow up to preparing for Devuan, I started going back to see if I could find systemd. Yes I know, I know. Bu