Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

2016-03-19 Thread Steve Litt
I agree with Stephanie. If a person wants to run sans-initramfs, we don't want to make it harder for him/her. SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 19:24:48 + Stephanie Daugherty

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

2016-03-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 08:57:20 +1300 Daniel Reurich wrote: > On 20/03/16 08:24, Stephanie Daugherty wrote: > > The split is somewhat arbitrary these days but historically things > > needed during the boot process and to repair the system have gone > > in / while less

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

2016-03-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 15:26:49 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 19:05:20 +0100 > aitor_czr wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > By default, PSTAT (a dependency of VDEV) is installed in > > "/usr/local", just as VDEV. > > > > As Daniel

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 18, Issue 42

2016-03-19 Thread David Harrison
On 16/03/2016 21:30, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: WARNING: Regardless of David's intent, which I assume is benign, the preceding paragraph is solicitation to commit felony copyright infringement. Nobody should email proprietary software to others, without a written OK from the copyright

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

2016-03-19 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 20 March 2016 9:07:48 AM NZDT, Didier Kryn wrote: >Le 19/03/2016 21:01, Daniel Reurich a écrit : >> On 20/03/16 08:56, Didier Kryn wrote: >>> >Le 19/03/2016 19:05, aitor_czr a écrit : >>Hi all, >> >>By default, PSTAT (a dependency of VDEV) is installed in

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

2016-03-19 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 09:01:32AM +1300, Daniel Reurich wrote: > On 20/03/16 08:56, Didier Kryn wrote: > > > > Jude organized the package like this for people to test it on > > running systems without interfering with the existing hotplugger. Vdev > > would create device files and other

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

2016-03-19 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 07:24:48PM +, Stephanie Daugherty wrote: > I would argue vdev belongs in / rather than /usr because it is likely to > be necessary to mount filesystems and such. > > The split is somewhat arbitrary these days but historically things needed > during the boot process

Re: [DNG] sup - a "small is beautiful" tool for UNIX privilege escalation

2016-03-19 Thread Jim Murphy
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 5:14 AM, Jaromil wrote: > > dear devuaneers, suckless hackers and friends of simplicity > --- clipped > > Basically sup is an hard-coded sudo. > > I adopted the software (wrote a mail to pancake, pending response) and clipped the rest Hi, As an

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

2016-03-19 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 19/03/2016 21:01, Daniel Reurich a écrit : On 20/03/16 08:56, Didier Kryn wrote: >Le 19/03/2016 19:05, aitor_czr a écrit : >>Hi all, >> >>By default, PSTAT (a dependency of VDEV) is installed in "/usr/local", >>just as VDEV. >> >>As Daniel Raurich explained in another thread: >> >>[...] the

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

2016-03-19 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 20/03/16 08:56, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 19/03/2016 19:05, aitor_czr a écrit : >> Hi all, >> >> By default, PSTAT (a dependency of VDEV) is installed in "/usr/local", >> just as VDEV. >> >> As Daniel Raurich explained in another thread: >> >> [...] the "/usr/local" directory is for non-packaged

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

2016-03-19 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 20/03/16 08:24, Stephanie Daugherty wrote: > I would argue vdev belongs in / rather than /usr because it is > likely to be necessary to mount filesystems and such. I absolutely agree it should go in / > > The split is somewhat arbitrary these days but historically things > needed during

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

2016-03-19 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 19/03/2016 19:05, aitor_czr a écrit : Hi all, By default, PSTAT (a dependency of VDEV) is installed in "/usr/local", just as VDEV. As Daniel Raurich explained in another thread: [...] the "/usr/local" directory is for non-packaged local stuff [...] So, should i change this configuration

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

2016-03-19 Thread Stephanie Daugherty
I would argue vdev belongs in / rather than /usr because it is likely to be necessary to mount filesystems and such. The split is somewhat arbitrary these days but historically things needed during the boot process and to repair the system have gone in / while less essential bits have gone into

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

2016-03-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 19:05:20 +0100 aitor_czr wrote: > Hi all, > > By default, PSTAT (a dependency of VDEV) is installed in > "/usr/local", just as VDEV. > > As Daniel Raurich explained in another thread: > > [...] the "/usr/local" directory is for non-packaged local

Re: [DNG] sup - a "small is beautiful" tool for UNIX privilege escalation

2016-03-19 Thread Teodoro Santoni
Hi, Cool! Have you considered also to send pull requests to the site repo or the sup git repository at suckless.org? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

2016-03-19 Thread Rainer Weikusat
aitor_czr writes: > By default, PSTAT (a dependency of VDEV) is installed in "/usr/local", > just as VDEV. > > As Daniel Raurich explained in another thread: > > [...] the "/usr/local" directory is for non-packaged local stuff [...] > > So, should i change this

[DNG] sup - a "small is beautiful" tool for UNIX privilege escalation

2016-03-19 Thread Jaromil
dear devuaneers, suckless hackers and friends of simplicity In the past days we are working hard on Devuan, but also on our dyne.org project Dowse whose prototype is based on an RPi version of Devuan. Thinkering on the security model in Dowse and other projects, parazyd found the 'sup' tool to

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

2016-03-19 Thread aitor_czr
Hi all, By default, PSTAT (a dependency of VDEV) is installed in "/usr/local", just as VDEV. As Daniel Raurich explained in another thread: [...] the "/usr/local" directory is for non-packaged local stuff [...] So, should i change this configuration for those packages, or should i skip

[DNG] Popularity-contest for Devuan

2016-03-19 Thread Daniel Reurich
We've released our own popularity-contest package that allows us to track Devuan installs via http://popcon.debian.org This package bumps the version number that adds the suffixes .devuan (for jessie), .devuan.ascii or .devuan.ceres so that in the graph on debian-popularity contest we can see

Re: [DNG] Where to get beta?

2016-03-19 Thread hellekin
On 03/17/2016 07:56 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > Where can I download Devuan's beta? > In the near future, as Mitt suggested ;o), from https://devuan.org/ and https://files.devuan.org/. For now, in Centurion_dan's pocket :) Tip: for anything related to the Web, please report issues to

[DNG] On-Topic discussion of Off-Topic discussions and material

2016-03-19 Thread Steven W. Scott
Hello all, I've been following this list since the early inception of Devuan, have contributed to the project financially, and enjoy very much the information and insight found here. I generally don't post unless I have something to contribute in some way, even if it's just opinion. I

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 18, Issue 42

2016-03-19 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 16/03/2016 23:02, David Harrison a écrit : With respect, Steve, what on earth do you mean? I asked if someone would mail me *their own* replacement stub program that they use *in place* of a proprietary executable. So yes, my intent is benign and is not counter to any copyright. I'm

Re: [DNG] Microsoft upgrades Windows 7 to 10 without permission

2016-03-19 Thread David Harrison
On 16/03/2016 10:49, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: I Dropped back to 7, created a .exe that simply returns to OS, and then replaced c:\Windows\system32\GWX\GWX.exe and c\Windows\SysWOW64\GWX\GWX.exe with my NOP code. Would it be possible to share that .exe off-list? It would come in very

Re: [DNG] Where to get beta?

2016-03-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 15:01:57 + hellekin wrote: > On 03/17/2016 07:56 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > Where can I download Devuan's beta? > > > > In the near future, as Mitt suggested ;o), > from https://devuan.org/ and https://files.devuan.org/. > For now, in

Re: [DNG] sup - a "small is beautiful" tool for UNIX privilege escalation

2016-03-19 Thread Dave Turner
On 17/03/16 17:32, Jim Murphy wrote: On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 5:14 AM, Jaromil wrote: dear devuaneers, suckless hackers and friends of simplicity --- clipped Basically sup is an hard-coded sudo. I adopted the software (wrote a mail to pancake, pending response) and

Re: [DNG] Raspberry Pi 2 devuan image

2016-03-19 Thread Ozi Traveller
All fixed! Now I'm happily building my devuan raspberry pi image! Wahoo! On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 10:23 PM, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi, > > On 03/16/16 11:49, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 06:24:08AM +1100, Ozi Traveller

Re: [DNG] Microsoft upgrades Windows 7 to 10 without permission

2016-03-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 21:30:57 +0100 Klaus Hartnegg wrote: > On 16.03.2016 at 17:27 David Harrison wrote: > > On 16/03/2016 10:49, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: > >> I Dropped back to 7, created a .exe that simply returns to OS, and > >> then replaced

Re: [DNG] Microsoft upgrades Windows 7 to 10 without permission

2016-03-19 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2016 16 Mar 15:21 -0500, Daniel Reurich wrote: > You can uninstall and hide (to prevent from reinstalling) a couple of > updates to get rid of the nags permanently. And "they" say Linux is too hard to use! ;-) - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible

[DNG] Where to get beta?

2016-03-19 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, I went to devuan.org to download the ISO for the beta, couldn't find it, went to the Download Zone (http://files.devuan.org/) and couldn't find anything pertaining to the Beta. I went to git.devuan.org, and couldn't find it. Where can I download Devuan's beta? I have a suggestion: I

Re: [DNG] sup - a "small is beautiful" tool for UNIX privilege escalation

2016-03-19 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Dave Turner writes: > On 17/03/16 17:32, Jim Murphy wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 5:14 AM, Jaromil wrote: >>> dear devuaneers, suckless hackers and friends of simplicity >>> >> --- clipped >>> Basically sup is an hard-coded sudo.

Re: [DNG] Microsoft upgrades Windows 7 to 10 without permission

2016-03-19 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 17/03/16 05:27, David Harrison wrote: > On 16/03/2016 10:49, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: >> I Dropped back to 7, created a .exe that simply returns to OS, and then >> replaced c:\Windows\system32\GWX\GWX.exe and >> c\Windows\SysWOW64\GWX\GWX.exe >> with my NOP code. > > Would it be

Re: [DNG] Where to get beta?

2016-03-19 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 03:56:24PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Where can I download Devuan's beta? As far as I know, there isn't a beta yet. I would be happy to be wrong. I installed devuan jessie from the second alpha a long time ago, , upgraded it regularly, and been happy with

Re: [DNG] Topics

2016-03-19 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 17/03/2016 16:26, David Harrison a écrit : I apologize profusely for the one-post aside and for the hours of your life it must have wasted. I apologize for the tone of my mail :-) Didier ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Microsoft upgrades Windows 7 to 10 without permission

2016-03-19 Thread Steven W. Scott
Hey David, You can find the source and executable here --> https://github.com/nekarkedoc/GWX/ I had debated on putting it up there in the first place, since I could find no suitable existing project. Thanks Klaus for those keys, I may find use for them. The fact that a common user would

Re: [DNG] sup - a "small is beautiful" tool for UNIX privilege escalation

2016-03-19 Thread Jaromil
On Thu, 17 Mar 2016, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > Random suggestion: What about supporting a compiled-in path? this is a pretty good idea, thanks! won't be implemented right away as i don't need it immediately myself, time is so little... but a well written patch would be welcome on this ciao

Re: [DNG] Where to get beta?

2016-03-19 Thread Mitt Green
Steve Litt wrote: > Where can I download Devuan's beta? In the future (sorry, couldn't resist). > I have a suggestion: I know that the website > is being redesigned as we speak, but IMHO, > right now, today, links should be placed at the very > top of the current https://devuan.org website >