Re: [DNG] SoylentNews discussion

2016-06-02 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 05:57:27PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: [cut] > > > > however this is all abstract speculation now. I'm not even sure we'll > > make such a big change in testing. most people and organizations > > switching to Devuan today (me included) are in need of a system that > > does

Re: [DNG] SoylentNews discussion

2016-06-02 Thread Simon Walter
On 06/03/2016 06:45 AM, Jaromil wrote: > however this is all abstract speculation now. I'm not even sure we'll > make such a big change in testing. most people and organizations > switching to Devuan today (me included) are in need of a system that > does not change their workflow arbitrarily. On

Re: [DNG] Devuan Top100 on DistroWatch

2016-06-02 Thread Simon Walter
On 06/03/2016 01:55 AM, KatolaZ wrote: > On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 06:27:43PM +0200, Jaromil wrote: >> On Thu, 02 Jun 2016, Joel Roth wrote: >> >>> Actually, the news doesn't even have to be good. There's nothing >>> like an engineered controversy full of flames, to gain interest of >>> the press.

Re: [DNG] Devuan Top100 on DistroWatch

2016-06-02 Thread Jim Murphy
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:51 AM, hellekin wrote: > Today Devuan is number #91 on DistroWatch.com! We made it to the Top > 100 is the first 3 days of presence on DW. Sweet! > > http://distrowatch.com/devuan I guess Jesse Smith over at DistorWatch was serious. On the 4th of

[DNG] ifconfig vs ip

2016-06-02 Thread Simon Walter
Hi All, I am working on some cdist scripts for setting up some network interfaces. So far I am modifying the /etc/network/interfaces and then bring down and up the interfaces. For a while now /etc/init.d/networking has a warning that it is deprecated. I understand why. So I issue: # ip address

Re: [DNG] SoylentNews discussion

2016-06-02 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 23:45:33 +0200 Jaromil wrote: > dear Steve, > > On Thu, 02 Jun 2016, Steve Litt wrote: > > > My opinion is quite the opposite. OpenRC is, in my opinion, pretty > > similar to sysvinit. Both use "init scripts" that can grow huge and > > unfathomable. > >

Re: [DNG] SoylentNews discussion

2016-06-02 Thread Jaromil
dear Steve, On Thu, 02 Jun 2016, Steve Litt wrote: > My opinion is quite the opposite. OpenRC is, in my opinion, pretty > similar to sysvinit. Both use "init scripts" that can grow huge and > unfathomable. OK, you make some quite reasonable points and I'm half convinced now, by the rationale of

Re: [DNG] lilo

2016-06-02 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Rainer Weikusat writes: [...] > I'll certainly fix any CVE-level issue I consider to be relevant for my > use cases While we're at that: There's a bunch of (very likely harmless) buffer overflows in the bsect_common function (bsect.c), namely this here: if ((root =

Re: [DNG] Devuan Top100 on DistroWatch

2016-06-02 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 20:29:08 +0800 Robert Storey wrote: > There are even a lot of people > (including me) who are taking a second look at FreeBSD as a Plan B. When searching for plans B, C, D and E back in late 2014 and early 2015, I rejected FreeBSD because of their

Re: [DNG] SoylentNews discussion

2016-06-02 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 12:53:55 +0200 Jaromil wrote: > however I'd really recommend to sit down a bit and watch OpenRC as it > seems to me the best candidate to follow up sysvinit. My opinion is quite the opposite. OpenRC is, in my opinion, pretty similar to sysvinit. Both use

Re: [DNG] Devuan (f)art

2016-06-02 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 01:15:46PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > It's line-wrapping here, making it unrecognizeable as a design. Any > chance of attaching it? > Don't know if the attachment will make it through the ML, but we can try. Maybe this was the reason why a few people couldn't see it

Re: [DNG] Devuan (f)art

2016-06-02 Thread Steve Litt
It's line-wrapping here, making it unrecognizeable as a design. Any chance of attaching it? Thanks SteveT On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 08:58:40 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > Dear Devuaners, > > I wanted to share a first attempt to get an ASCII-art-like logo for > Devuan that I made

Re: [DNG] Devuan Top100 on DistroWatch

2016-06-02 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 06:27:43PM +0200, Jaromil wrote: > On Thu, 02 Jun 2016, Joel Roth wrote: > > > Actually, the news doesn't even have to be good. There's nothing > > like an engineered controversy full of flames, to gain interest of > > the press. > > sad, but true in most cases. > >

Re: [DNG] Devuan Top100 on DistroWatch

2016-06-02 Thread Jaromil
On Thu, 02 Jun 2016, Joel Roth wrote: > Actually, the news doesn't even have to be good. There's nothing > like an engineered controversy full of flames, to gain interest of > the press. sad, but true in most cases. anyway the main cornerstone for Devuan beta2 will *not* be a media stunt :^) we

Re: [DNG] Devuan Top100 on DistroWatch

2016-06-02 Thread Joel Roth
Robert Storey wrote: > > Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 11:51:38 + > > From: hellekin > > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > > Subject: [DNG] Devuan Top100 on DistroWatch > > Message-ID: <57501dca.6090...@dyne.org> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Today Devuan is number #91

Re: [DNG] Devuan (f)art

2016-06-02 Thread Go Linux
On Thu, 6/2/16, KatolaZ wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Devuan (f)art To: "Go Linux" Cc: "hellekin" , "KatolaZ" , dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Thursday, June 2, 2016, 9:49 AM On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 02:39:44PM

Re: [DNG] Devuan (f)art

2016-06-02 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 02:39:44PM +, Go Linux wrote: [cut] > > > > Yes, that is an improvement but the proportions are still off. Both swooshes > are too elongated and hellekin's version looks 'pregnant with that bump on > the RH side. I

Re: [DNG] Devuan (f)art

2016-06-02 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 03:30:23PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > KatolaZ writes: > > Dear Devuaners, > > > > I wanted to share a first attempt to get an ASCII-art-like logo for > > Devuan that I made yesterday night. > > [...] > > > '~._ > > ""+=+_ ) (@

Re: [DNG] Devuan (f)art

2016-06-02 Thread Go Linux
On Thu, 6/2/16, KatolaZ wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Devuan (f)art To: "hellekin" Cc: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Thursday, June 2, 2016, 7:49 AM On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 11:49:55AM +, hellekin wrote: [cut] On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 11:49:55AM

Re: [DNG] Is kernel 4.5.0 flakey ?

2016-06-02 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Haines Brown writes: > I installed 64bit jessie on a new HDD, and initially used the 3.16.0 > kernel. Then I installed the 4.50 kernel and ran into trouble. > > kernel:[25090.816205] NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU #7 > stuck for 22!s >

Re: [DNG] Devuan (f)art

2016-06-02 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 11:49:55AM +, hellekin wrote: [cut] > > I tried this before, indeed the result needs tweaking. The screenfetch > entry for Devuan looks pretty good already: > > hellekin@raiz > ..,,;;;::;,.. OS: Devuan 1.0

Re: [DNG] Devuan Top100 on DistroWatch

2016-06-02 Thread Robert Storey
> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 11:51:38 + > From: hellekin > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Subject: [DNG] Devuan Top100 on DistroWatch > Message-ID: <57501dca.6090...@dyne.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Today Devuan is number #91 on DistroWatch.com! We made it to

Re: [DNG] Converting audio to AAC using Soundconverter

2016-06-02 Thread Robert Storey
> From: Adam Borowski > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Subject: Re: [DNG] Converting audio to AAC using Soundconverter > > Re: [DNG] Converting audio to AAC using Soundconverter > If your target machine is anything non-ancient, you want opus, it thoroughly > beats both mp3 and aac

[DNG] Devuan Top100 on DistroWatch

2016-06-02 Thread hellekin
Today Devuan is number #91 on DistroWatch.com! We made it to the Top 100 is the first 3 days of presence on DW. Sweet! http://distrowatch.com/devuan == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture Foundry *

Re: [DNG] Devuan (f)art

2016-06-02 Thread hellekin
On 06/02/2016 08:10 AM, KatolaZ wrote: > On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 08:58:40AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: >> Dear Devuaners, >> >> I wanted to share a first attempt to get an ASCII-art-like logo for >> Devuan that I made yesterday night. I am not an expert of ASCII-art, >> so don't expect it to be perfect

Re: [DNG] SoylentNews discussion

2016-06-02 Thread Jaromil
On Thu, 02 Jun 2016, Godefridus Daalmans wrote: > I just noticed that SubSentient has started a discussion on > SoylentNews about init systems: > > https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=16/06/01/0347232 > > Ask SN: Help Write it — What do you Want in an Init System? to me this looks a very

Re: [DNG] lilo

2016-06-02 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Jaromil writes: > On Mon, 30 May 2016, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > >> I have no plans to use anything but lilo unless that's a technical >> requirement. It boots. That's all I want from it. > > having dealt with it recently, what is your opinion on the current > state of Lilo code?

[DNG] SoylentNews discussion

2016-06-02 Thread Godefridus Daalmans
Hi, I just noticed that SubSentient has started a discussion on SoylentNews about init systems: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=16/06/01/0347232 Ask SN: Help Write it — What do you Want in an Init System? I thought you might find it interesting. Greetings, Frits

Re: [DNG] Devuan (f)art

2016-06-02 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 08:58:40AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > Dear Devuaners, > > I wanted to share a first attempt to get an ASCII-art-like logo for > Devuan that I made yesterday night. I am not an expert of ASCII-art, > so don't expect it to be perfect or to look good. I started from the >

[DNG] Devuan (f)art

2016-06-02 Thread KatolaZ
Dear Devuaners, I wanted to share a first attempt to get an ASCII-art-like logo for Devuan that I made yesterday night. I am not an expert of ASCII-art, so don't expect it to be perfect or to look good. I started from the official svg I found on the website, and I wanted something that could be

Re: [DNG] Converting audio to AAC using Soundconverter

2016-06-02 Thread fuumind
Thanks! It seems I will have to look at going down that route after all. /fuumind ons 2016-06-01 klockan 19:39 -1000 skrev Joel Roth: > fuumind wrote: > > I wish to convert several thousands of audio files mostly in mp3 format > > to AAC using the Soundconverter application. So far I have

Re: [DNG] Converting audio to AAC using Soundconverter

2016-06-02 Thread fuumind
Thanks for the input! My target machine is an anchient feature phone that supports mp3 and AAC only. Its limited storage space combined with a speaker that does not make high bitrates justice tells me that AAC is the best choise of codec in this case. /fuumind tor 2016-06-02 klockan 08:19 +0200