Re: [DNG] Chimaera CPU stuck

2022-09-14 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 14 Sep 2022, at 15:24, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > > hello all! > > I have a virtual machine running under kvm who started hanging giving > this message just before it dies: > > kernel:[ 296.013011] watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 22s! > [swapper/0:0] > > This happens

Re: [DNG] New Chimaera torrent file needs seeders.

2022-09-12 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 12 Sep 2022, at 17:08, fraser kendall wrote: > > On Sun, 11 Sep 2022 11:43:12 -0400 > fsmithred via Dng wrote: > >> Please seed. Thanks. > > Hi to all. I have a headless backup machine (with about 2T spare > capacity) that I'd be willing to use as a long-term seeding host, but I >

Re: [DNG] connman missing from system menu

2022-08-17 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 18 Aug 2022, at 02:52, Steve Litt wrote: > > My experience with LXDE and Openbox is that the system menu is pretty much > given to > you on LXDE/Openbox install. My experience based on LXDE and Openbox on > Ubuntu, > Debian and Void is that installing a package doesn't put the package's

[DNG] PAM ldap problems

2022-08-14 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
Hi, I have a VPN server (devuan 4) connecting to my ldap server (devuan 4) using libpam-ldapd, so it's running nslcd and using libpam-ldapd for the pam_ldap implementation. This is all working successfully and I am using the 'pam_authz_search' option in /etc/nslcd.conf to control which users are

Re: [DNG] Openvpn CVE fix in devuan chimaera

2022-07-24 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 25 Jul 2022, at 02:21, Mark Hindley wrote: > > Tom, > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 02:09:34AM +1000, wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote: >>> I have just had a quick look and the commit seems to backport easily. New >>> version for chimaera-security is en route. >>> >>> Mark >> >> Thanks for

Re: [DNG] Openvpn CVE fix in devuan chimaera

2022-07-24 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 25 Jul 2022, at 01:51, Mark Hindley wrote: > On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 04:19:39PM +0100, Mark Hindley wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 12:46:09AM +1000, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: >>> I saw https://bugs.debian.org/1008015 on the Debian BTS

Re: [DNG] Openvpn CVE fix in devuan chimaera

2022-07-24 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 25 Jul 2022, at 01:19, Mark Hindley wrote: > > Hi, > >> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 12:46:09AM +1000, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: >> I saw https://bugs.debian.org/1008015 on the Debian BTS which mentions >> it was found in openvpn/2.5.1-3, openvpn/2.5

[DNG] Openvpn CVE fix in devuan chimaera

2022-07-24 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
Hi, I saw https://bugs.debian.org/1008015 on the Debian BTS which mentions it was found in openvpn/2.5.1-3, openvpn/2.5.5-1 and fixed in openvpn/2.5.6-1. Devuan chimaera still has openvpn/2.5.1-3+devuan1. Debian bullseye is also still showing openvpn/2.5.1-3 on packages.debian.org/openvpn.

Re: [DNG] Lennart now working for Microsoft

2022-07-09 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 9 Jul 2022, at 02:07, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > On 2022-07-08 08:57, Steve Litt wrote: >> What scares me is if he starts putting Microsoft-centric stuff in >> systemd, Linux will need to either migrate away from systemd or be >> subsumed by microsoft. >> SteveT > > We'll be there to

Re: [DNG] moving to a new system

2022-06-27 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 27 Jun 2022, at 16:02, aitor wrote: > >  > Hi, >> On 25/6/22 3:57, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: >> If your new drive is the same size, you could just transfer the entire >> system with clonezilla. > Although you may have trouble with some metadat

Re: [DNG] moving to a new system

2022-06-24 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 25 Jun 2022, at 00:06, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > Greetings > > Hoping that I'm not asking too many questions. > > (moving from debian testing to devuan testing (daedalus) > the old system is under 5.17.xx and the new one is on 5.18 > if that makes for differences) > > (I've learnt

Re: [DNG] Hardware support for new Thinkpad?

2022-04-27 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 27 Apr 2022, at 17:51, . via Dng wrote: > > I'll dig into adding proprietary drivers. The Lenovo website only lists > Windows-based driver/firmware/BIOS updates, so that's no help. Am I right > that the process for Debian and for Devuan should be about the same? > > thanks again,

Re: [DNG] Hardware support for new Thinkpad?

2022-04-25 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 24 Apr 2022, at 21:28, . via Dng wrote: > I just got a Thinkpad P1 gen 4, and Chimaera doesn't recognize the audio, > camera, or HDMI port (not to mention the fingerprint sensor in the power > switch). I could use some guidance in what to look for... > > It has a Tiger Lake-H

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-23 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 24 Apr 2022, at 12:23, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > > Hi, > > Antony Stone writes: > >>> On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 22:57:12, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 21:15:34 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 21:11:18, Florian

Re: [DNG] Wifi problem - dhclient times out with no reply

2022-03-17 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 18 Mar 2022, at 06:32, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > Thanks to Aitor (twice), Steve, Gregory, Simon for your > informative suggestions. > > Associating my broadcom bcm43228 adapter with the wifi > router has been hit-and-miss, mostly miss with a rare, > inexplicable success. > > I

Re: [DNG] Installation problems on Dell T7810 + PERC H310

2022-03-09 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 9 Mar 2022, at 20:03, Steve Litt wrote: > > So I created a Void installer thumb drive, using > cp void.img /dev/sdWhatever Is there a difference between using cp and dd for this, or do they end up with identical results? ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Security implications of IPv4 vs IPv6 (was Re: Configuring ethernet port for IPv6)

2022-01-29 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 29 Jan 2022, at 18:22, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 01:22:57AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > [redirecting to list, I think that's what you intended] > >> Joel Roth said on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 15:19:35 -1000 > On my next router, (probably OpenBSD/pf), I'm going to

Re: [DNG] The Daedalus desktop needs some love

2022-01-22 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 23 Jan 2022, at 13:27, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > > Hi, > > wirelessduck--- via Dng writes: > >> On 20 Jan 2022, at 23:33, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> >> It's nice if the desktop colours look good on a perfectly calibrated monitor. >> But

Re: [DNG] ntp setup

2022-01-20 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 20 Jan 2022, at 21:58, Steve Litt wrote: > > Rick Moen said on Tue, 22 Jun 2021 01:51:35 -0700 > >> Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen (paddy-h...@member.fsf.org): >> >>> I think it's fair to point out that systemd-timesyncd only promises >>> Simple NTP (SNTP). How good a job it does of that is

Re: [DNG] The Daedalus desktop needs some love

2022-01-20 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 20 Jan 2022, at 23:33, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 02:08:12PM -0700, Bob Proulx via Dng wrote: >> goli...@devuan.org wrote: >>> Lars Noodén wrote: What quality of display(s) and color calibration are required? >>> >>> In all the years I have been doing this,

Re: [DNG] Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video

2022-01-16 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 16 Jan 2022, at 23:38, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng > wrote: > > Install umatrix + ublock-origin and that pestilence is gone. Be aware that > you'll have to fiddle with umatrix to get videos playing. uMatrix is EOL and the GitHub repository archived a long time ago. You can achieve

Re: [DNG] nftables firewall and fail2ban replacement.

2022-01-16 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 16 Jan 2022, at 19:41, onefang wrote: > > On 2022-01-16 17:23:29, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: >> >> >>>> On 16 Jan 2022, at 12:54, Bob Proulx via Dng wrote: >>> >>>> Any suggestions? >>> >>> I

Re: [DNG] nftables firewall and fail2ban replacement.

2022-01-15 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 16 Jan 2022, at 12:54, Bob Proulx via Dng wrote: > >> Any suggestions? > > I am not really happy with any of the programs I have looked at > either. > > Ubuntu really pushes ufw but it feels too complicated to me. (Joking > because it is supposed to be the Uncomplicated Firewall.) But

Re: [DNG] request for assistance

2022-01-07 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 7 Jan 2022, at 22:02, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > Greetings > > Basic question is: what happened? > > I wanted to update a beowulf system. > So did the apt update, apt upgrade, apt dist-upgrade > after changing the references in /etc/apt/sources.list > from beowulf to chimaera. > >

Re: [DNG] fail2ban running out of memory during beowulf -> chimaera upgrade?

2021-12-21 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 22 Dec 2021, at 07:51, Alexander Bochmann wrote: > > Hi - > > this is not a Devuan-specific problem, since I've also had it > happen when upgrading a Debian system: > > During the dist-upgrade process, fail2ban is restarted and > then tries to do something with the previous sqlite

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-20 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 21 Dec 2021, at 07:37, Steve Litt wrote: > > Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng said on Mon, 20 Dec 2021 18:49:59 +0900 > > > >> >> ACK. I really wish the xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin dependency were >> downgraded to a Recommends:. Note to self, submit a bugreport! >> >> # Don't mind if someone

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Docker to Podman

2021-12-10 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 10 Dec 2021, at 19:01, wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote: > >  > >>> On 10 Dec 2021, at 18:27, d...@d404.nl wrote: >>> >>> On 10-12-2021 02:57, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: >>> Has anyone noticed issues when trying to switch from Docke

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Docker to Podman

2021-12-10 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 10 Dec 2021, at 18:27, d...@d404.nl wrote: > > On 10-12-2021 02:57, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: >> Has anyone noticed issues when trying to switch from Docker to Podman >> in Devuan chimaera? >> >> I'm getting an error when trying to run the latest `h

[DNG] Migrating from Docker to Podman

2021-12-09 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
Has anyone noticed issues when trying to switch from Docker to Podman in Devuan chimaera? I'm getting an error when trying to run the latest `hadolint` image in Podman which doesn't occur under Docker. $ docker run -it docker.io/hadolint/hadolint:v2.8.0 hadolint Please provide a Dockerfile $

Re: [DNG] networking thinking

2021-11-28 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 29 Nov 2021, at 01:07, tito via Dng wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 07:20:14 -0600 > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > >> Greetings >> >> In anticipation of a fiber optical connection (moving from a wireless) I >> have been planning out and purchasing some bits of hardware. Am finding >>

Re: [DNG] Viewing file content (was Re: system administration of non-systemd distros and releases)

2021-11-27 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 27 Nov 2021, at 14:24, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > Looking at the lesspipe manual page[1] (don't have less installed ;-), > it seems that it doesn't support on-the-fly encoding switching but as > far as dealing with compressed files, I guess there is no or not much > difference. > > [1]:

Re: [DNG] Viewing file content (was Re: system administration of non-systemd distros and releases)

2021-11-26 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 26 Nov 2021, at 20:40, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > > # On my own machines `lv` makes a fine `pager` for me. On the fly > # decompression and handling of many different encodings. So for me, > # it's just > # > # pager /var/log/syslog.2.gz > # > # without any `zmore` or `zcat`

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-19 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 19 Nov 2021, at 22:29, Peter Duffy wrote: > > I've recently been asked to recommend an upgrade route for a number of > linux servers, and I proposed going to devuan. In response, I've had a > concern raised which took me by surprise. It was suggested that in the > future, it may not be

Re: [DNG] etckeeper: was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-21 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 21 Oct 2021, at 22:47, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > Hi wirelessduck, > > wirelessduck--- via Dng writes: > >>>> On 20 Oct 2021, at 20:45, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng >>>> wrote: >>> >>> I really looked into snapshotting bu

Re: [DNG] etckeeper: was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-20 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 20 Oct 2021, at 20:45, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > > I really looked into snapshotting but the etckeeper commit messages also > list which packages changed, like so (after I "beautified" the logging a > bit to suit my taste and needs) > > commit

Re: [DNG] Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-16 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
One thing that I couldn’t find in the Debian Bullseye release notes is that the Nvidia 340xx legacy driver is no longer present in Debian Bullseye/Devuan Chimaera. For anyone with older hardware only supported by the 340xx driver the alternatives appear to be switching to nouveau driver on

Re: [DNG] npm and nodejs -- version skew?

2021-10-04 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 5 Oct 2021, at 00:58, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > While setting up to run the game editor inky ( > https://www.inklestudios.com/ink/ ) I ran into what seems to be a version > skew. > > I used aptitude to install Devuan beowulf's versions of npm and nodejs. > When I got to one stage of

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> 3) if the user opted out create some kind of /dev/null folder (I suspect that > such > thing doesn't exist yet) to delete the data in realtime Is the data saved into the telemetry folder before being transmitted anywhere? Can you just delete the folder and recreate it as a symlink to

Re: [DNG] /run/user/#

2021-08-31 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 31 Aug 2021, at 21:40, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > > On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 18:41:42 +0900 > Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > >> As g4sra said, /run/user/xxx is used by session management and as you >> say you have Xorg running on one of the machines, I guess someone is >> logged in and running an

Re: [DNG] Advice sought on kernel upgrade

2021-08-13 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 13 Aug 2021, at 18:28, Steve Litt wrote: > > terryc said on Fri, 13 Aug 2021 13:55:07 +1000 > > >> >> Setting up? As in reallocating desktops? >> >> I'd be more inclined to look at HW/Sw problems when you are adding >> something like a 4K screen. Is there sufficient ram? > > And...

Re: [DNG] Only a few packages now still on hold

2021-08-02 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 2 Aug 2021, at 19:02, Mark Hindley wrote: > > Yes it can be, but no more so than consolekit. There are 2 alternatives for > managing > seats and sessions in Devuan: consolekit (actually consolekit2) and elogind. > > Consolekit was probably the default in ascii. It is inactive upstream,

Re: [DNG] Starting outline for the DNG Safe Programmer Certificate

2021-08-01 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 1 Aug 2021, at 21:56, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 01:49:46PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >> Josef Grosch via Dng said on Thu, 29 Jul 2021 15:32:05 -0700 >> >> >>> Another suggestion I have is to use the variable and method naming >>> convention that java uses. I like

Re: [DNG] Rant: was fresh install of chimaera on an Ultrabook - no touchpad

2021-07-31 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 31 Jul 2021, at 04:09, Steve Litt wrote: > > wirelessd...@gmail.com said on Fri, 30 Jul 2021 20:02:59 +1000 > >>> On 30 Jul 2021, at 05:15, Steve Litt >>> wrote: >>> >>> Riccardo Mottola said on Thu, 29 Jul 2021 16:07:11 +0200 >>> Sometimes you can find another card, but that

Re: [DNG] New service manager being developed

2021-07-31 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 31 Jul 2021, at 09:31, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult > wrote: > > On 21.07.21 13:34, d...@d404.nl wrote: > >> Great initiative. I am currently using Alpine combined with s6-overlay in >> most of my docker containers and it works very well. > > Just curious: what are you using a s6

Re: [DNG] Rant: was fresh install of chimaera on an Ultrabook - no touchpad

2021-07-30 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 30 Jul 2021, at 05:15, Steve Litt wrote: > > Riccardo Mottola said on Thu, 29 Jul 2021 16:07:11 +0200 > >> Sometimes you can find another card, but that is not always possible. >> Rarely you can know exactly what is inside a Laptop on beforehand. > > Riccardo, > > You just reminded

Re: [DNG] Starting outline for the DNG Safe Programmer Certificate

2021-07-30 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 7/28/21 1:12 PM, Steve Litt wrote: >> [ Beverity ] >> Does anyone have other list items to add? https://thedailywtf.com/ Is a good resource of what “not” to do.___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Installing postgresql13 on beowulf

2021-07-18 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 19 Jul 2021, at 09:59, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 03:46:56PM +1000, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: >> Bionic is an Ubuntu release. You should be using buster-pgdg repository for >> postgresql apt as Devuan Beowulf is directly based on Debian B

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Installing postgresql13 on beowulf

2021-07-18 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 18 Jul 2021, at 21:08, o1bigtenor wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 5:58 AM wirelessduck--- via Dng > wrote: >> >> > snip >>>> >>>> I use the buster-pgdg repositories for all of my postgresql installations, >>>> fo

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Installing postgresql13 on beowulf

2021-07-18 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 18 Jul 2021, at 20:39, o1bigtenor wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 12:47 AM wirelessduck--- via Dng > wrote: >> >> >> >>>> On 18 Jul 2021, at 12:58, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 09:38:1

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Installing postgresql13 on beowulf

2021-07-17 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 18 Jul 2021, at 12:58, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 09:38:13PM -0500, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: >> - - - - no mention of Beowulf and that means a - - - no go - - - - at least >> as far as I can tell. >> >> Any ideas? > > Bionic is based on buster, and

Re: [DNG] Installing postgresql13 on beowulf

2021-07-17 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 18 Jul 2021, at 06:22, Antony Stone > wrote: > > On Saturday 17 July 2021 at 17:20:40, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > >> Greetings >> >> trying to install postgres 13 on beowulf > >> deb http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/ buster-pgdg main > >> # apt update > >> Err:7

Re: [DNG] exim paniclog

2021-05-31 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 1 Jun 2021, at 05:26, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: > > I received this e-mail yesterday, and again today: > > - > exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog on quixote.home has non-zero size, mail > system might be broken. The last 10 lines are quoted

Re: [DNG] Ossec-hids for Beowulf

2021-05-24 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 25 May 2021, at 05:14, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > >  > Many thanks Olaf, for your help. > >> On Mon, 24 May 2021 21:29:25 +0900 >> Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> >> The error message is about linux-libc-dev which is at 4.19.181-1 for >> Beowulf. So while close, the mirror that your apt-get

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
I’m not sure if this is a good way to do it but when Ubuntu is upgraded to a new version the release upgrade tool disables all third-party apt sources and PPA sources by commenting them out in the sources.list/sources.list.d files and notifying the user this has been done. The user then has to

Re: [DNG] minor panic with host reboot

2021-04-02 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
t;20210401075334.6573abb6@devuan> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >>> On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 10:29:52 +1100 >>> wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: >>> >>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/molly-guard >>> https://packages.debian.org/sid/

Re: [DNG] minor panic with host reboot

2021-03-31 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 1 Apr 2021, at 08:27, crich...@blackfoot.net wrote: > >  > I’ve had a router/misc./etc. running ASCII for a couple of years, and today I > inadvertently rebooted it > > because I wasn’t playing attention to which host an xterm was logged into. > Normally that wouldn’t > > be a

Re: [DNG] Discovery #fail

2021-03-28 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 at 16:51, Ludovic Bellière wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > It's most likely a debian issue. And to be more precise, a Xorg that > may not be up to date. I would advise you to check devuan's Xorg > version and check if the firmware of your laptop is talked about on the > internet.

Re: [DNG] Beowulf installation skipped networking. Quickest fix? SOLVED

2021-03-27 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> Probably that is just dhcp. > If you want to see current settings > > sudo ifconfig (old command) > > Someone might post the 'new' command That would be `ip address show` Or `ip a` If you’re lazy :P https://baturin.org/docs/iproute2/ ___

Re: [DNG] Shutting down on weird keys combination.

2021-03-12 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 13 Mar 2021, at 05:50, А. Сорокин via Dng wrote: > > Hello. > > > I have a strange behavior on my system (DeVuan's Sid (Ceres?) > up-to-date system): on quick pressing (may be it seems to system as keys > are pressed at once), of Shift-b-v (no matter where: CLI or GUI) system > shuts

Re: [DNG] web conferencing software (was Re: Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver?)

2021-03-10 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 10 Mar 2021, at 17:11, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting wirelessduck--- via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > >> What’s the consensus on Quad9? Are they any better from a privacy >> standpoint? > > To say again, why outsource recursive nameservice to _anyone_? >

Re: [DNG] web conferencing software (was Re: Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver?)

2021-03-08 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 8 Mar 2021, at 19:08, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > > Στις 8/3/21 12:29 π.μ., ο/η Rick Moen έγραψε: >> Leaving aside my being disappointed about people willingly outsourcing >> their recursive DNS to the second-nosiest company on the planet[1] > > +1.1.1.1 ... don't forget cloudflare

Re: [DNG] Strange behaviour with last version of grub

2021-03-04 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 5 Mar 2021, at 15:08, wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote: > >  > > >>> On 5 Mar 2021, at 03:23, viverna wrote: >>> >> Yesterday I updated one of my computers with apt-get upgrade. This packages >> are upgraded: >> >> grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common >> >> dpkg install from

Re: [DNG] Strange behaviour with last version of grub

2021-03-04 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 5 Mar 2021, at 03:23, viverna wrote: > > Yesterday I updated one of my computers with apt-get upgrade. This packages > are upgraded: > > grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common > > dpkg install from version 2.02+dfsg1-20+deb10u3 to version > 2.02+dfsg1-20+deb10u4 > >

Re: [DNG] godaddy (was Your system is not supported by certbot-auto anymore.)

2020-12-11 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 12 Dec 2020, at 11:37, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 11:05:22AM -0800, spiralofhope wrote: >>> On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 01:00:44 +1100 >>> wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: >>> >>> A good move to switch from godaddy. Doesn’t reall

Re: [DNG] Your system is not supported by certbot-auto anymore.

2020-12-08 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 8 Dec 2020, at 23:51, Simon Hobson wrote: > > At my last job, we used GoDaddy for certs - not sure how much was GoDaddy and > how much was my lack of experience, but it used to seem like a right PITA at > times. I switched to SSLMate for the (linux) systems I managed. A good move to

Re: [DNG] Let's Encrypt (was: snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...)

2020-12-04 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 5 Dec 2020, at 00:56, Adam Borowski wrote: > > First, an anecdote: to track sleep problems I have, I bought a cheapest > smartband, a Huawei one. It has almost no controls on its own, and it's UI > needs a dumbphone (Google or Apple infested) via Bluetooth. Because > $REASONS¹ I happen

Re: [DNG] Firefox and its forks are losing the power of add-ons.

2020-12-03 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 3 Dec 2020, at 19:12, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > > Dear All, > > Lately, I am noticing Waterfox has lost the ability to display my > add-ons, which are AdGuard AdBlocker and NoScript. I had about two > more in the past, but it is becoming increasingly difficult to have > any that

Re: [DNG] snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...

2020-12-01 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 2 Dec 2020, at 11:09, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: > > Certbot has removed support of certbot-auto for Debian-based systems (cf. > https://github.com/certbot/certbot/blob/adacc4ab6dc63b024b17f0ec5adeb1adc9f93300/certbot-auto#L802). > > Official instructions for Debian >

Re: [DNG] ..will experimental seatd be part of our escape from pötterisms like d-bus and (e)logind?

2020-11-30 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 1 Dec 2020, at 11:26, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > Hi, > > > ..will experimental seatd be part of our escape from pötterisms like > d-bus and (e)logind?: > https://pkginfo.devuan.org/stage/experimental/experimental/seatd_0.4.0-1~rc1.html > https://git.sr.ht/~kennylevinsen/seatd > > ..git

Re: [DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

2020-11-25 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 26 Nov 2020, at 13:02, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 05:34:16PM -0700, Fred wrote: >> I think Debian Jessie is 32 bit. To upgrade to Beowulf I just followed >> instructions that didn't say anything about 32 or 64. I just assumed >> Beowulf was 64 bit. > > Debian

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-30 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 31 Oct 2020, at 10:52, Simon Walter wrote: > > On 10/30/20 3:19 AM, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: >>> That said, I've stopped using unbound and I'm using straight BIND as my >>> local resolver lately. It's pleasant. >> From what we discovered about unbound during one of the meetings, I

Re: [DNG] X11: safe to remove?

2020-10-04 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 5 Oct 2020, at 04:23, tempforever via Dng wrote: > > Thanks for all of your responses. I did successfully remove it, with no > ill side effects to be seen so far. In my particular case, I don't use > java, or, apparently, other things that depended on X11. Not sure it > was actually

Re: [DNG] X11: safe to remove?

2020-10-02 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 3 Oct 2020, at 00:12, Dimitri Minaev via Dng wrote: > >  > Because of Swing, I suppose. Java allows one to create GUI apps, too. The headless jre package also has X11 dependencies. > >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 6:38 AM Steve Litt wrote: >> On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:29:51 +0400 >> Dimitri

Re: [DNG] Xorg stopped working after upgrade to Beowulf

2020-09-22 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 22 Sep 2020, at 12:36, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: > > I have pretty much decided that there is no way to upgrade my Debian system > to Buster and keep it usable without systemd. Since I am set up for > multiboot, including Devuan Ascii, I decided to upgrade that to Beowulf and > see

Re: [DNG] Zoom? Rather not...

2020-08-06 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 6 Aug 2020, at 20:52, Haines Brown wrote: > > For me security refers primarily to file access. This takes me back to > my question. If I craete a new user, named zoom for example, and have > it run zoom, won't that limit access files on my HD? With the dpkg-deb utility you can extract

[DNG] deborphan lists libelogind0

2020-06-21 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
I have some packages installed such as rsyslog that have Depends: libsystemd0. I also have libelogind0 installed that has Provides: libsystemd0. This all works fine on Beowulf with latest updates. However when I run deborphan it shows up libelogind0 in the output. Why is this? Does deborphan

Re: [DNG] Devuan Beowulf fresh install - feedbacks

2020-06-05 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 6 Jun 2020, at 13:27, deadbrain wrote: > > My current problem is with docker.io, the rc dependency is too old and docker > is not functional... > > Do you have plans to upgrade this version? > > Kind regards > > Jerome I’ve had docker running on Beowulf for a while now. Use the

Re: [DNG] kernel instabilities

2020-05-28 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> There is a 5.4.x version > in buster/Beowulf backports, which is the latest LTS release. That > should be new enough, and easier than recompiling from source. > > Greg Yes that’s what I’m currently running. However the kernel version listed in the original email suggested that the person was

Re: [DNG] kernel instabilities

2020-05-28 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> You're very likely required to upgrade to a much newer Kernel version. I > suggest you to use the most recent stable kernel version and build it from > source ( Not that hard, ask me for help if needed) For me the upgrade > fixed the issue. > > cheers, > Andreas There’s also a slightly newer

Re: [DNG] Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-21 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
>> On 21 May 2020, at 17:31, Steve Litt wrote: >> >> On Thu, 21 May 2020 05:13:52 +0100 >> tux...@sapo.pt wrote: >> >> Citando Steve Litt : >>> This whole discussion balances on the definition of "shell aware". >>> What is "shell aware?" >>> SteveT >> Have you tried to write shell script

Re: [DNG] without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-15 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 15 May 2020, at 22:51, Emiliano Marini via Dng wrote: > >  > I don't know who contact but the site http://without-systemd.org isn't > working (it throws database error): It looks to have been resurrected by someone else at https://without-systemd.frama.wiki/ but I can’t verify for

Re: [DNG] Installing birdtray on Beowulf

2020-05-06 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> Unfortunately it doesn’t have a tray indicator, and the evolution-indicator > package never made it into Debian. So I was able to successfully download and install the alltray .deb package from Debian bullseye and that seems to be working fine for tray minimise in Devuan Beowulf, including

Re: [DNG] Installing birdtray on Beowulf

2020-05-06 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> evolution can connect to exchange, and iirc, includes a tray icon by > default.. Evolution does indeed connect to Office365 using the docs at https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/EWS/OAuth2 Unfortunately it doesn’t have a tray indicator, and the evolution-indicator package never made it

Re: [DNG] Installing birdtray on Beowulf

2020-05-05 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 5 May 2020, at 19:17, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > > On 5/5/20 12:11 PM, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: >> Last time I looked at claws (a few years ago) I couldn’t get it to connect >> to Exchange/Office365 but perhaps I should take another look if i

Re: [DNG] Installing birdtray on Beowulf

2020-05-05 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 5 May 2020, at 15:54, Florian Zieboll wrote: > > I just websearched for Birdtray, hoping to get a hint towards a firefox > "close to tray" successor and found that there seem to be flatpaks and a PPA: > > https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/10/birdtray-thunderbird-tray-icon-with-new.html

Re: [DNG] Installing birdtray on Beowulf

2020-05-05 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 5 May 2020, at 15:51, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > > On 5/5/20 5:38 AM, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: >> Are there any other methods to get it installed without compiling from >> source? > > you can try ceres version (=1.8.1) to see if it works in

[DNG] Installing birdtray on Beowulf

2020-05-04 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
birdtray on Beowulf is 1.5-1 but thunderbird on Beowulf has Breaks: birdtray (<< 1.7.0+ds-1~) so it won’t install with apt. Are there any other methods to get it installed without compiling from source? Or are there any alternative apps that people use to show thunderbird status in the panel

[DNG] New Debian project leader

2020-04-28 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
Looks like debian has voted for their next project leader for the upcoming year. https://lwn.net/Articles/816158/ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=Debian-New-DPL___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Is anybody using Discord for virtual get-togethers in Devuan?

2020-03-24 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 24 Mar 2020, at 01:55, John Crisp via Dng wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 13:24:43 +1100 > wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > > >> Anyone have experience on how it compares to Mattermost or Zulip? > > I believe it has quite a lot of refugees from Sl

Re: [DNG] Anyone installed a jitsi server on Devuan?

2020-03-22 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 23 Mar 2020, at 10:19, terryc wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 17:55:25 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Has anyone installed a jitsi server on Devuan? I need to maintain a >> jitsi server in these days of virtual life. > > Err, yes, it "installed on the system" and nmap

Re: [DNG] Is anybody using Discord for virtual get-togethers in Devuan?

2020-03-21 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 22 Mar 2020, at 01:30, John Crisp via Dng wrote: > > On 20/03/20 13:38, Steve Litt wrote: >> Is anybody using Discord in Devuan for virtual get-togethers? >> > > Discord. Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. Horrible spyware. > > We use Rocket.Chat internally - it'll run on node or in

Re: [DNG] AMD Ryzen?

2020-03-18 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> b. See if your UEFI has a Power Supply Idle Control setting, and set > it to typical if it does. Some AMD motherboards either won’t have that (MSI) or need a bios update to get that setting. I’ve got a threadripper 2950x running with Linux on the MSI MEG X399 CREATION. No options available

[DNG] Using Devuan on Google Cloud

2020-03-11 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
Hi I’m starting up a new project on GCP and looking to try and run Devuan on there. In the default debian images, google provides a google-compute-engine package that provides the guest environment inside the VM instance. Unfortunately this package has a dependency on systemd. Has anyone run

Re: [DNG] kotlin

2020-02-29 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 29 Feb 2020, at 15:10, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Does Devuan have an already packaged implementation of kotlin? > I looked in aptitude, but maybe I haven't guessed the right name > for the package. > > -- hendrik You could try sdkman. I’ve not used it before, but it does list kotlin as

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed? dropin replacement

2020-02-23 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
 On 2020-02-23 22:10, marc wrote: > If I understand you correctly, you propose a simple gtk > program that is setuid (so that it can read /etc/shadow, and > grant root privileges). The problem is that there is no such > thing as a simple gtk program. This is not comment limited to > gtk programs

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-12-14 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 15 Dec 2019, at 00:51, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: > > Having migrated from buster to beowulf, using wicd as the network manager, > how does one rename network interfaces from "persistent names" to old, > numbered, ones?

Re: [DNG] Beowulf: needrestart broken?

2019-10-17 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> yes same here, although i never used needrestart's nagios plugin. > > # needrestart -p > UNKN - Kernel: 4.19.0-6-amd64 (!!), Microcode: unknown, Services: none, > Containers: none, Sessions: none|Kernel=1;0;;0;2 Microcode=U;0;;0;1 > Services=0;;0;0 Containers=0;;0;0 Sessions=0;0;;0 Thanks for

[DNG] Beowulf: needrestart broken?

2019-10-02 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
I upgraded a headless machine from ascii to beowulf and now needrestart nagios plugin is failing. Previously, "needrestart -p" running on ascii shows proper output: OK - Kernel: 4.9.0-11-amd64, Services: none, Containers: none, Sessions: none|Kernel=0;0;;0;2 Services=0;;0;0 Containers=0;;0;0

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> I have just had a go in a couple of scenarios using a VM. > > The basic process is: > > 1) Install sysvinit-core (if you don't have it already), remove libnss-systemd >and reboot. > 2) Manually download and install devuan-keyring (wget, dpkg -i). > 3) change apt sources from buster to

Re: [DNG] Runit logging

2019-08-28 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> My question is whether there is any way to make svlogd compress the logs when > it rotates them? Do I need to tell svlogd to ignore any rotation and setup > some sort of logrotate.d configuration? Has anyone else done this > successfully? So this turned out to be much easier than expected.

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