Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-24 Thread Florian Zieboll
On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 21:11:46 +0100 Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 08:10:31PM +0100, Florian Zieboll wrote: > > > I had played a bit with the tiling and highly (GUI) configurable > > "Terminator" but was bounced back to xterm very quickly due to its > >

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-24 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 02:30:15PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > > Thanks for the links. Actually I think I derived my PS1 settings > from an example found in some default .bashrc. I found the colors by > try and fail, or maybe I looked at what ncurses was producing. Of > course you don't want

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-24 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 24/01/2016 11:27, Florian Zieboll a écrit : On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 21:11:46 +0100 Adam Borowski wrote: >On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 08:10:31PM +0100, Florian Zieboll wrote: > > >I had played a bit with the tiling and highly (GUI) configurable > >"Terminator" but was bounced

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-23 Thread Florian Zieboll
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 00:09:23 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > different color terminals for > ssh sessions I had played a bit with the tiling and highly (GUI) configurable "Terminator" but was bounced back to xterm very quickly due to its footprint and wrote the following

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-23 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 08:10:31PM +0100, Florian Zieboll wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 00:09:23 -0500 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > different color terminals for > > ssh sessions > > I had played a bit with the tiling and highly (GUI) configurable > "Terminator" but was

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 20:10:31 +0100 Florian Zieboll wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 00:09:23 -0500 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > different color terminals for > > ssh sessions > > I had played a bit with the tiling and highly (GUI) configurable >

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-23 Thread Teodoro Santoni
2016-01-23 21:44 GMT+01:00, Steve Litt : > Suckless Tools terminals are very low footprint, but they also lack > features necessary for certain tasks. IIRC you'd never use one for a > login terminal, and IIRC they can't be told to run a certain script > (like xterm -e).

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-22 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 22/01/2016 06:09, Steve Litt a écrit : Yes! After the last time I did an rm -rf on my laptop, only to discover it was in an ssh session to my main computer where I didn't want to delete anything, I always use different color terminals for ssh sessions and for root sessions. Roxterm's file

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-21 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 21/01/2016 05:57, Simon Wise a écrit : On 19/01/16 04:59, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 13:31:43 +1100 Simon Wise wrote: But recently discovered that xfce4-terminal loses critical functionality without a session dbus running (it no longer connects to the cut

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-21 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 11:03:18AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 21/01/2016 05:57, Simon Wise a écrit : > >On 19/01/16 04:59, Steve Litt wrote: > >>On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 13:31:43 +1100 > >>Simon Wise wrote: > >> > >>>But recently discovered that xfce4-terminal loses critical

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-21 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 21/01/2016 12:33, Hendrik Boom a écrit : On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 11:03:18AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 21/01/2016 05:57, Simon Wise a écrit : On 19/01/16 04:59, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 13:31:43 +1100 Simon Wise wrote: But recently discovered that

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-21 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 11:03:18 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > I installed roxterm and rox-filer. Both are just nice behaving. > roxterm doesn't seem to differ in apearence, configurability or > behaviour, from xfce4-terminal or gnome-terminal. I too have used rox-filer (but not

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-21 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 04:57:28PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 21/01/2016 12:33, Hendrik Boom a écrit : > >So I tried installing it, and found that it recommended zeroinstall-injector. > >Anyone know what this is? It seems to be a "platform-independent > >package manager". What does this

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-21 Thread Simon Wise
On 22/01/16 07:41, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 04:57:28PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 21/01/2016 12:33, Hendrik Boom a écrit : I suspect that zeroinstall is the native, cross-platform package installer that Rox uses, and quite possibly that a lot of the file-type handlers

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-21 Thread Simon Wise
On 21/01/16 21:03, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 21/01/2016 05:57, Simon Wise a écrit : On 19/01/16 04:59, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 13:31:43 +1100 Simon Wise wrote: But recently discovered that xfce4-terminal loses critical functionality without a session dbus

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-21 Thread Simon Wise
On 22/01/16 02:57, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 21/01/2016 12:33, Hendrik Boom a écrit : Might it alleviate some of the above complaints? I always use apt-get install --no-install-recommends, or "default upgrade" in Synaptic. And I don't look at the recommended packages :-) This "recommends"

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-21 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 14:52:39 +1100 Simon Wise wrote: > On 22/01/16 02:57, Didier Kryn wrote: > > This "recommends" feature has become a kind of bin for packages the > > maintainers would like desperately to "require" for obscure > > reasons, but they fail to find a valid

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-21 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 14:47:59 +1100 Simon Wise wrote: > The second advantage for me (since I use colours to indicate some > tasks) is the profile/theme configuration is easier to deal with and > file based. Yes! After the last time I did an rm -rf on my laptop, only to

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-18 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Simon Wise writes: [...] > But recently discovered that xfce4-terminal loses critical > functionality without a session dbus running (it no longer connects to > the cut buffer and clipboard ... which really destroys its > functionality). Desktop environment/ window

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-18 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 13:31:43 +1100 Simon Wise wrote: > But recently discovered that xfce4-terminal loses critical > functionality without a session dbus running (it no longer connects > to the cut buffer and clipboard ... which really destroys its > functionality). I

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-17 Thread Simon Wise
On 17/01/16 08:08, Steve Litt wrote: On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:32:11 -0500 Mitt Green wrote: Steve Litt wrote: I'm not for a moment suggesting Devuan should remove Debian's libdbus dependency. We have bigger fish to fry. $ apt-cache rdepends libdbus-1-3 libdbus-1-3

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-16 Thread Rob
Original Message Subject: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus? Local Time: January 16 2016 5:02 pm UTC Time: January 16 2016 5:02 pm From: sl...@troubleshooters.com To: dng@lists.dyne.org Hi all, dunst is a notification daemon that temporarily gui-prints whatever is specified

[DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-16 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, dunst is a notification daemon that temporarily gui-prints whatever is specified by various notify-send commands. Some questions: Does dunst depend on dbus? Can dunst be run without dbus? Can notify-send be run without dbus? I'd be a lot more open to using notifications if they could be

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-16 Thread Mitt Green
Steve Litt wrote: >Does dunst depend on dbus? Well, according to apt-cache depends, it needs dbus' shared library (libdbus-1-3). >Can dunst be run without dbus? >Can notify-send be run without dbus? Since it doesn't depend on dbus package, which contains dbus-daemon, it may be able to. Not

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-16 Thread Mitt Green
Steve Litt wrote: >I'm not for a moment suggesting Devuan should remove Debian's libdbus >dependency. We have bigger fish to fry. $ apt-cache rdepends libdbus-1-3 libdbus-1-3 Reverse Depends: (...) 436 packages at all on my Unstable Mitt___ Dng

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 12:26:07 -0500 Mitt Green wrote: > Steve Litt wrote: > > >Does dunst depend on dbus? > > Well, according to apt-cache depends, it needs dbus' shared library > (libdbus-1-3). > > >Can dunst be run without dbus? > >Can notify-send be run without

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:32:11 -0500 Mitt Green wrote: > Steve Litt wrote: > > >I'm not for a moment suggesting Devuan should remove Debian's libdbus > >dependency. We have bigger fish to fry. > > $ apt-cache rdepends libdbus-1-3 > libdbus-1-3 > Reverse Depends: >

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

2016-01-16 Thread Teodoro Santoni
Good evening, 2016-01-16 20:53 GMT+01:00, Steve Litt : > Probably not. My fight is with systemd, not dbus or PulseAudio. > However, the whole systemd episode has made me untrusting of anything > promoted by Freedesktop.Org, so in an ideal world I'd have no dbus. A