Re: [DNG] X forwarding over SSH over ADSL

2016-03-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:38:15PM +0100, m_maass wrote: > have you consider x2go? For me it is perfect. The Debian instructions on http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/doc:installation:x2goserver say to install x2goserver and x2goserver-xsession. But Devuan jessie provides x2goclient, x2goplugin, x

Re: [DNG] X forwarding over SSH over ADSL

2016-03-14 Thread m_maass
have you consider x2go? For me it is perfect. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] X forwarding over SSH over ADSL

2016-03-13 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Brad Campbell writes: > On 13/03/16 20:36, Brad Campbell wrote: > >> I've snipped the remainder of your un-informed rant. >> > > Never the less, tightvnc works a hell of a lot better over super low > bandwidth links than I've ever managed to get out of RDP or straight > remote X. Plus, none of the

Re: [DNG] X forwarding over SSH over ADSL

2016-03-13 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Brad Campbell writes: > On 13/03/16 00:48, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> Brad Campbell writes: >>> On 08/03/16 04:41, Simon Hobson wrote: VNC is lousy over anything but a very fast link, it's just a remote framebuffer - anything painted to the screen is bit copied to the client wh

Re: [DNG] X forwarding over SSH over ADSL

2016-03-13 Thread Brad Campbell
On 13/03/16 20:36, Brad Campbell wrote: I've snipped the remainder of your un-informed rant. Sorry, that was un-called for. Never the less, tightvnc works a hell of a lot better over super low bandwidth links than I've ever managed to get out of RDP or straight remote X. Plus, none of the

Re: [DNG] X forwarding over SSH over ADSL

2016-03-13 Thread Brad Campbell
On 13/03/16 00:48, Rainer Weikusat wrote: Brad Campbell writes: On 08/03/16 04:41, Simon Hobson wrote: VNC is lousy over anything but a very fast link, it's just a remote framebuffer - anything painted to the screen is bit copied to the client which is bandwidth intensive. Whereas tightvnc

Re: [DNG] X forwarding over SSH over ADSL

2016-03-12 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Brad Campbell writes: > On 08/03/16 04:41, Simon Hobson wrote: >> >> VNC is lousy over anything but a very fast link, it's just a remote >> framebuffer - anything painted to the screen is bit copied to the >> client which is bandwidth intensive. > > Whereas tightvnc works quite well over almost an

Re: [DNG] X forwarding over SSH over ADSL (Was: Claywand dosplay bananager)

2016-03-12 Thread Brad Campbell
On 08/03/16 04:41, Simon Hobson wrote: VNC is lousy over anything but a very fast link, it's just a remote framebuffer - anything painted to the screen is bit copied to the client which is bandwidth intensive. Whereas tightvnc works quite well over almost anything, and if you are willing to

Re: [DNG] X forwarding over SSH over ADSL (Was: Claywand dosplay bananager)

2016-03-07 Thread Simon Hobson
Stephan Seitz wrote: > Äh, why do you need X11 forwarding for text work? For me text work is > shell/vi/mutt/screen. I’m using these programs daily without the need for X11 > forwarding. I don't, but sometimes it just happens that way. > And as far as I was told things like VNC or RDP are an

Re: [DNG] X forwarding over SSH over ADSL

2016-03-07 Thread Lars Noodén
On 03/07/2016 08:57 PM, Stephan Seitz wrote: > On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 06:50:26PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> That's a non-sequitur: You need more bandwidth than usually available >> outside of a LAN as soon as you start using "misbehaving applications" >> (like Firefox or Wireshark) who effec

Re: [DNG] X forwarding over SSH over ADSL

2016-03-07 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 06:50:26PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: That's a non-sequitur: You need more bandwidth than usually available outside of a LAN as soon as you start using "misbehaving applications" (like Firefox or Wireshark) who effectively (by virtue of the toolkit they using) use the X

Re: [DNG] X forwarding over SSH over ADSL

2016-03-07 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Stephan Seitz writes: > On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 04:57:28PM +, Simon Hobson wrote: >> It's a *fact* that I found X via SSH with only 400kbps upstream from >> the far end quite workable as long as there weren't bitmaps >> involved. For text work it was "like being there" for me as I >> remember

Re: [DNG] X forwarding over SSH over ADSL (Was: Claywand dosplay bananager)

2016-03-07 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 04:57:28PM +, Simon Hobson wrote: It's a *fact* that I found X via SSH with only 400kbps upstream from the far end quite workable as long as there weren't bitmaps involved. For text work it was "like being there" for me as I remember - can't check Äh, why do you ne

Re: [DNG] X forwarding over SSH over ADSL (Was: Claywand dosplay bananager)

2016-03-07 Thread Simon Hobson
Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> I disagree. I've used remote X forwarding many times, and found it ran >> "quite nicely" with 400kbps upstream from my home ADSL. Obviously it >> depends what you are doing, and "graphics intensive" stuff slows >> enormously, but for anything "text and widgets" based it'