Re: [DNG] Printing -- now even pdf works. I have no idea why.

Le 22/04/2016 22:24, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : Simon Hobson writes: >Didier Kryn wrote: > >> You can configure cups through the web interface or by editing the config files. Editing the config files is easy, apart from understanding the meaning of

Re: [DNG] Printing -- now even pdf works. I have no idea why.

Didier Kryn writes: I don't remember lpr can present you a list of printers, telling where they are, which kind of paper, page size and double-side they handle, if they're ready to print and if they're lacking ink. Not all of this actually works well in Cups, but at least it has this

Re: [DNG] M$ Linux-frendly

On Fri, 4/22/16, Simon Walter wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] M$ Linux-frendly To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Friday, April 22, 2016, 9:28 PM On 04/23/2016 10:54 AM, Go Linux wrote: > On Fri, 4/22/16, Simon Walter wrote: >> >> >>> What is the reason people use

Re: [DNG] M$ Linux-frendly

On 04/23/2016 01:58 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Fri, 22 Apr 2016 18:18:56 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: Interesting discussion on Microsoft involvement with Linux: http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/Hating-Microsoft I cite a

Re: [DNG] M$ Linux-frendly

On 04/23/2016 10:54 AM, Go Linux wrote: On Fri, 4/22/16, Simon Walter wrote: What is the reason people use CentOS? It's in the name and Cpanel is evidence. I think that people use Centos to avoid the cost of an expensive support contract with Redhat. But still have

Re: [DNG] M$ Linux-frendly

On Fri, 4/22/16, Simon Walter wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] M$ Linux-frendly To: "dng@lists.dyne.org" Date: Friday, April 22, 2016, 8:16 PM [cut] > > What is the reason people use CentOS? It's in the name and Cpanel is evidence. > [cut]

Re: [DNG] Which desktops work without systemd

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 03:25:46AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 22 Apr 2016 10:15:36 +0900 > Simon Walter wrote: > > > > If by desktops you mean DE, then I thought some have some > > dependencies on systemd by way of the included packages. DE vs. > > window manager.

Re: [DNG] Which desktops work without systemd

On Thu, 2016-04-21 at 23:57 +0300, Mitt Green wrote: > ‎Rob van der Putten wrote: > > > > > Which desktops work without systemd? > > A list would be nice. > Every desktop environment is known > to work without systemd. GNOME3 works > on Funtoo, Slackware, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, > DragonflyBSD. It

Re: [DNG] What do we want for ascii ?

Simon Walter escribió: [...] It's so refreshing that you all talk freely about this subject. In my social and professional circles it is taboo to even mention the NSA. People look at me like I am a "flatearther" when I simply quote the news. Which wicked kind of

Re: [DNG] What do we want for ascii ?

On Thu, 21 Apr 2016 15:18:23 + hellekin wrote: > On 04/20/2016 03:46 PM, Didier Kryn wrote: > >> > >> This is not the first time apulse has been discussed on this list. > >> There was talk of packaging apluse for Devuan last year but that > >> conversation has been lost in

Re: [DNG] Skype: Re: What do we want for ascii ?

Le 22/04/2016 09:56, Svante Signell a écrit : On Fri, 2016-04-22 at 15:26 +0800, Brad Campbell wrote: On 22/04/16 12:51, Joel Roth wrote: Skype for Linux, OTOH, *is* stale (and last time I checked was tricky to install) AIUI intentionally so due to Microsoft's special love for Linux.

Re: [DNG] Gcc issue?

On Thu, 21 Apr 2016, Steven W. Scott wrote: >Just curious, anyone else getting segfaults after compiling with gcc -O3 >optimization flag on alpha 4? Same system, same code, same flags work ok >on Wheezy. If I back down to -O2 no problems. > >I'm blaming gcc, but I was interested

Re: [DNG] What do we want for ascii ?

On 22/04/16 12:51, Joel Roth wrote: Skype for Linux, OTOH, *is* stale (and last time I checked was tricky to install) AIUI intentionally so due to Microsoft's special love for Linux. It's certainly behind the other os clients (windows/osx/iOS) but installing it on a several year old Mint/DE

[DNG] Skype: Re: What do we want for ascii ?

On Fri, 2016-04-22 at 15:26 +0800, Brad Campbell wrote: > On 22/04/16 12:51, Joel Roth wrote: > > > > > Skype for Linux, OTOH, *is* stale (and last time I checked was > > tricky to install) AIUI intentionally so due to Microsoft's > > special love for Linux. > >  > > brad@bkmac:~$ apt-cache

Re: [DNG] Skype: Re: What do we want for ascii ?

On Fri, 2016-04-22 at 10:02 +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 22/04/2016 09:56, Svante Signell a écrit : > >  > > The problem is to install the (only available) 32bit (old) binaries on a > > 64bit architecture. > > >  You need to install 32-bit pulse-audio. Well, the problem is that these old

Re: [DNG] Which desktops work without systemd

On Thu, 21 Apr 2016 19:57:51 +0200 Rob van der Putten wrote: > Hi there > > > Which desktops work without systemd? > A list would be nice. I suspect you're asking for three lists: 1) Desktops that work without needing dbus, which has been taken over by systemd. 2) Desktops

Re: [DNG] What do we want for ascii ?

Le 22/04/2016 06:56, Simon Walter a écrit : It's so refreshing that you all talk freely about this subject. In my social and professional circles it is taboo to even mention the NSA. People look at me like I am a "flatearther" when I simply quote the news. The three-letters agencies haha

Re: [DNG] What do we want for ascii ?

Le 22/04/2016 06:51, Joel Roth a écrit : Didier Kryn wrote: >hellekin a écrit : > >Does apulse serve for anything else than running non-free spyware? > > > > > Probably not. The author states that his goal was to run Skype test >call, and after he achieved this goal, the project has just

Re: [DNG] Which desktops work without systemd

On Fri, 22 Apr 2016 10:15:36 +0900 Simon Walter wrote: > If by desktops you mean DE, then I thought some have some > dependencies on systemd by way of the included packages. DE vs. > window manager. There is a big difference. In my opinion there's no magic line where things

Re: [DNG] Which desktops work without systemd

Simon Walter wrote:‎ > If by desktops you mean DE, then I thought some > have some dependencies  on systemd by way of the > included packages. DE vs. window manager. > There is a big difference. By desktops I mean DEs, and none of I have ever met have hard dependency on systemd. They have kind

Re: [DNG] Gcc issue?

Le 21/04/2016 20:38, KatolaZ a écrit : The simple reason is that the very same gcc has compiled at least 90% of the software you are using in alpha4, and who knows how many other millions of packages. So if there were any such bug in gcc, it would have probably been hit by now, just out of pure

Re: [DNG] Skype: Re: What do we want for ascii ?

Le 22/04/2016 10:13, Svante Signell a écrit : On Fri, 2016-04-22 at 10:02 +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 22/04/2016 09:56, Svante Signell a écrit : The problem is to install the (only available) 32bit (old) binaries on a 64bit architecture. You need to install 32-bit pulse-audio.

Re: [DNG] Which desktops work without systemd

I work with Mate Best Regards | ISMAEL | - Original Message - From: "Rob van der Putten" To: Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 12:57 PM Subject: [DNG] Which desktops work without systemd Hi there Which desktops work without

Re: [DNG] Gcc issue?

"Steven W. Scott" writes: > Just curious, anyone else getting segfaults after compiling with gcc -O3 > optimization flag on alpha 4? Same system, same code, same flags work ok on > Wheezy. If I back down to -O2 no problems. If the program segfaults reproducibly (or somewhat

Re: [DNG] Printing -- now even pdf works. I have no idea why.

Gregory Nowak wrote: > On a related note, I recently had to replace my almost 20-year-old hp > laserJet 5l because the part that broke couldn't be replaced. So, I > replaced it with a samsung m28253dw. I was struggling to configure > everything how I wanted through a less than

Re: [DNG] Printing -- now even pdf works. I have no idea why.

Le 22/04/2016 18:01, Simon Hobson a écrit : Gregory Nowak wrote: On a related note, I recently had to replace my almost 20-year-old hp laserJet 5l because the part that broke couldn't be replaced. So, I replaced it with a samsung m28253dw. I was struggling to configure

[DNG] M$ Linux-frendly

Interesting discussion on Microsoft involvement with Linux: http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/Hating-Microsoft I cite a sentence: "More recently, a minority have muttered that Systemd is an attempt by Red Hat to monopolize the Linux

Re: [DNG] M$ Linux-frendly

On Fri, 22 Apr 2016 18:18:56 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > Interesting discussion on Microsoft involvement with Linux: > http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/Hating-Microsoft > > I cite a sentence: > "More recently, a minority

Re: [DNG] Gcc issue?

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 10:27:16AM +0200, parazyd wrote: > On Thu, 21 Apr 2016, Steven W. Scott wrote: > >Just curious, anyone else getting segfaults after compiling with gcc -O3 > >optimization flag on alpha 4? Same system, same code, same flags work ok > >on Wheezy. If I back down to

Re: [DNG] Gcc issue?

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 01:53:11PM -0400, Steven W. Scott wrote: > Bogus mayhaps. Whatever the issue, it's been there a while because previous > versions fail as well. Having spent the first 25-30 years of my career in > assembly language, I completely understand "optimization" by a compiler; >

Re: [DNG] Gcc issue?

Bogus mayhaps. Whatever the issue, it's been there a while because previous versions fail as well. Having spent the first 25-30 years of my career in assembly language, I completely understand "optimization" by a compiler; it's a method used to attempt compensation for inherent inefficiencies in

Re: [DNG] Printing -- now even pdf works. I have no idea why.

Simon Hobson writes: > Didier Kryn wrote: > >> You can configure cups through the web interface or by editing the config >> files. Editing the config files is easy, apart from understanding the >> meaning of the variables from their names. But there are

[DNG] funny little program

People who may not know it yet but who are (like me) prone to inverting two letter command names every once in a while might want to have a look at the sl package/ program. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Printing -- now even pdf works. I have no idea why.

Didier Kryn wrote: > You can configure cups through the web interface or by editing the config > files. Editing the config files is easy, apart from understanding the meaning > of the variables from their names. But there are howtos. For one-time actions > like resuming