Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-21 Thread golinux
On 2017-10-21 02:27, Lars Noodén wrote: On 10/21/2017 12:47 AM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: Dear dev1rs, We are happy to announce that 'amprolla3', the rewrite of nextime's amprolla by parazyd and Wizzup, is finally up and running and ready to be tested. The code can be found at:

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-21 Thread golinux
On 2017-10-21 03:56, KatolaZ wrote: On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 11:39:13AM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: On 10/21/2017 11:07 AM, KatolaZ wrote: [snip] > google: dng lurker I look at the link added by the list software to the tail end of the message ... [snip] >

Re: [DNG] ID Quantique "Quantum" PCI-e RNG's - does anyone have more info?

2017-10-21 Thread Alessandro Selli
Il giorno Fri, 20 Oct 2017 22:43:57 -0400 "taii...@gmx.com" ha scritto: > I found this seemingly cool product, a pci-e hardware RNG that produces > a large stream of "truly random" "quantum" random numbers. > > https://www.idquantique.com/ > > It is made in Switzerland, which

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 16:47:57 -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote in message : > If you want to help testing the new amprolla3, you just need to: > > - replace "auto.mirror.devuan.org" with "pkgmaster.devuan.org" in >your /etc/apt/sources.list > - #

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-21 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 09:06:49AM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: [cut] > > > KatolaZ . . . I tried to explain yesterday that the link to the archives on > that page is non-functional - I get a 404 (it used to work). It was > discussed at the last meet and it's on jaromil's todo list. I have

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-21 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 12:04:21PM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 10/21/2017 11:56 AM, KatolaZ wrote: > [snip]> and is public. The original mailman archive is visible only to > > subscribed members, and rightly so. There is nothing to fix there. > [snip] > > The list software seems to point to

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-21 Thread Lars Noodén
On 10/21/2017 06:27 PM, KatolaZ wrote: [snip] > We could probably include an explicit pointer to the public lurker > archives in the devuan.org homepage. @golinux might want to have a > look at that, perhaps. Yes, that would be good, too. But there should be a way to get there from "here".

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-21 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 06:31:26PM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 10/21/2017 06:27 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > [snip] > > > We could probably include an explicit pointer to the public lurker > > archives in the devuan.org homepage. @golinux might want to have a > > look at that, perhaps. > > Yes, that

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

2017-10-21 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Samstag, 21. Oktober 2017 schrieb Arnt Gulbrandsen: > Dr. Nikolaus Klepp writes: > > Well, that's not true: If you are lucky, your vendor installed > > a bios that allows you seamingly do so. But most likely he > > didn't. Most likely his implementation has a backdoor for > > windows. > >

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

2017-10-21 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp writes: Sorry to say, it's not. These keys don't allow booting your retail windows. Uh-huh. Are we talking about black helicopter keys? Arnt ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

2017-10-21 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 at 11:51:42 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 21/10/2017 à 09:58, Arnt Gulbrandsen a écrit : >> John Franklin writes: >>> That’s not an apology. Would you like to try again? >> >> I'm not Steve, but the occasion fits: >> >> Tobias, until I read your posting a

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-21 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 06:31:50PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [cut] > > ..did all this (except with aptitude), should I then go from 4 to > 615 upgradeable packages??? > > ..I did the git clone dance first. > Does amprolla3 know that "Debian Jessie == Debian old-stable", > and that "Debian

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

2017-10-21 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
John Franklin writes: That’s not an apology. Would you like to try again? I'm not Steve, but the occasion fits: Tobias, until I read your posting a couple of days ago I did not realise that UEFI/Secure Boot can be configured such that ONLY my kernels can be booted, not even fresh install

Re: [DNG] ID Quantique "Quantum" PCI-e RNG's - does anyone have more info?

2017-10-21 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
taii...@gmx.com writes: I found this seemingly cool product, a pci-e hardware RNG that produces a large stream of "truly random" "quantum" random numbers. ... I am curious what the deal with this is, does it really work? what is the use case for this? does anyone here have one? I have a

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-21 Thread Lars Noodén
On 10/21/2017 11:07 AM, KatolaZ wrote: [snip] > google: dng lurker I look at the link added by the list software to the tail end of the message ... [snip] > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org >

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-21 Thread Lars Noodén
On 10/21/2017 12:47 AM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > Dear dev1rs, > > We are happy to announce that 'amprolla3', the rewrite of nextime's > amprolla by parazyd and Wizzup, is finally up and running and ready > to be tested. > > The code can be found at: > >

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

2017-10-21 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Samstag, 21. Oktober 2017 schrieb Arnt Gulbrandsen: > John Franklin writes: > > That’s not an apology. Would you like to try again? > > I'm not Steve, but the occasion fits: > > Tobias, until I read your posting a couple of days ago I did not realise > that UEFI/Secure Boot can be

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-21 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 10:27:30AM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 10/21/2017 12:47 AM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > Dear dev1rs, > > > > We are happy to announce that 'amprolla3', the rewrite of nextime's > > amprolla by parazyd and Wizzup, is finally up and running and ready > > to be tested. > >

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-21 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 11:39:13AM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 10/21/2017 11:07 AM, KatolaZ wrote: > [snip] > > google: dng lurker > > I look at the link added by the list software to the tail end of the > message ... > > [snip] > > ___ > > Dng

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

2017-10-21 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 21/10/2017 à 09:58, Arnt Gulbrandsen a écrit : John Franklin writes: That’s not an apology. Would you like to try again? I'm not Steve, but the occasion fits: Tobias, until I read your posting a couple of days ago I did not realise that UEFI/Secure Boot can be configured such that ONLY

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

2017-10-21 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp writes: Well, that's not true: If you are lucky, your vendor installed a bios that allows you seamingly do so. But most likely he didn't. Most likely his implementation has a backdoor for windows. You're saying most vendors do this? Not just some but MOST? Name one or two

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-21 Thread Lars Noodén
On 10/21/2017 11:56 AM, KatolaZ wrote: [snip]> and is public. The original mailman archive is visible only to > subscribed members, and rightly so. There is nothing to fix there. [snip] The list software seems to point to the wrong page then: > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org >

Re: [DNG] ID Quantique "Quantum" PCI-e RNG's - does anyone have more info?

2017-10-21 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 10/21/2017 09:14 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_hardware_random_number_generators says of all ID Quantique SA products: Open Hardware? Software License Closed Proprietary Ah thank you. What a shame.

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-21 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 08:48:57PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [cut] > > > > We have been testing amprolla3 for more than two months now, on dozens > > machines, and it has been working like a charm. > > ..ok, with jessie + jessie-* + experimental too? > Yes. You don't need to use both

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 17:47:50 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message <20171021164750.gf4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 06:31:50PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > ..did all this (except with aptitude), should I then go from 4 to > > 615 upgradeable packages??? > >

Re: [DNG] ID Quantique "Quantum" PCI-e RNG's - does anyone have more info?

2017-10-21 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 at 14:23:00 -0400 "taii...@gmx.com" wrote: > On 10/21/2017 09:14 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_hardware_random_number_generators >> >> says of all ID Quantique SA products: >> >> Open Hardware? Software

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

2017-10-21 Thread John Franklin
> On Oct 21, 2017, at 5:51 AM, Didier Kryn wrote: > > Le 21/10/2017 à 09:58, Arnt Gulbrandsen a écrit : >> John Franklin writes: >>> That’s not an apology. Would you like to try again? >> >> I'm not Steve, but the occasion fits: >> >> Tobias, until I read your posting a couple

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

2017-10-21 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 16:54:36 -0400 John Franklin wrote: > > On Oct 21, 2017, at 5:51 AM, Didier Kryn wrote: > >> Tobias, until I read your posting a couple of days ago I did not > >> realise that UEFI/Secure Boot can be configured such that ONLY my > >> kernels

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 20:37:35 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message <20171021193735.gg4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 08:48:57PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > > > We have been testing amprolla3 for more than two months now, on > > > dozens machines, and it has

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

2017-10-21 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 21/10/2017 à 22:54, John Franklin a écrit : A generic guide to Secureboot and updating Secureboot keys in your uEFI firmware: https://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/secureboot.html https://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/controlling-sb.html Ubuntu’s guide to signing things for

Re: [DNG] ID Quantique "Quantum" PCI-e RNG's - does anyone have more info?

2017-10-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, Arnt Gulbrandsen writes: > taii...@gmx.com writes: >> I found this seemingly cool product, a pci-e hardware RNG that >> produces a large stream of "truly random" "quantum" random >> numbers. > ... >> I am curious what the deal with this is, does it really work? >> what is the use case for

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, Arnt Karlsen writes: > On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 20:37:35 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message > <20171021193735.gg4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > >> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 08:48:57PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> >> [cut] >> >> > > >> > > We have been testing amprolla3 for more than two months now, on