[DNG] UEFI and Secure Boot

2017-10-22 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, I basically said UEFI is junk and Secure Boot is an anti-small-distro monopolistic practice. These were, and continue to be, my opinions, but they're just one man's opinion. I can see use cases where Secure Boot would be great, and I can see cases where something like UEFI would be handy:

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread Jaromil
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..leaving "-t experimental" out while adding backports back in, I now > have a credible "1 Upgradeable, linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.3-rt-amd64 > version 4.9.30-2+deb9u5~bpo8+1" and still no New packages and a > lowered "16 Obsolete and Locally Created

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 08:22:57 -0400 fsmithred wrote: > On 10/22/2017 06:51 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 06:33:58 -0400 >> fsmithred wrote: >> >>> On 10/22/2017 05:18 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 at

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 16:03:33 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message <20171022140333.rnvntd3gxn454vli@reflex>: > On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..leaving "-t experimental" out while adding backports back in, I > > now have a credible "1 Upgradeable, > >

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread fsmithred
On 10/22/2017 10:10 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 08:22:57 -0400 > fsmithred wrote: > >> On 10/22/2017 06:51 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: >>> On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 06:33:58 -0400 >>> fsmithred wrote: >>> On 10/22/2017

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread Alberto Zuin - Liste
Hi, Testing on my workstation + some servers: it works like a charm, thank you for your effort in improving our distro! Alberto On 20/10/17 22:47, goli...@dyne.org wrote: Dear dev1rs, We are happy to announce that 'amprolla3', the rewrite of nextime's amprolla by parazyd and Wizzup, is

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 at 16:47:57 -0500 goli...@dyne.org wrote: > Dear dev1rs, Are these some sort of devs-running-daemon devi1s? :-) > We are happy to announce that 'amprolla3', the rewrite of nextime's > amprolla by parazyd and Wizzup, is finally up and running and ready > to be tested.

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread Jaromil
On Sat, 21 Oct 2017, Lars Noodén wrote: > Who can update it fix the wording and the link and how did it get closed > off? I can, its in my TODO and will be done soon. ciao ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread Jaromil
hi all out of Arnt's and Olaf testing and reporting, its made clear that we need to improveme on amprolla3: we need a "warnlist" for packages that are overrinding devuan's forked packages. IMHO when debian updates a package forked by devuan in any of the available suites, the warnlist would file

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread fsmithred
On 10/22/2017 05:18 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 at 16:47:57 -0500 > goli...@dyne.org wrote: >> We are happy to announce that 'amprolla3', the rewrite of nextime's >> amprolla by parazyd and Wizzup, is finally up and running and ready >> to be tested. > > All right, tested:

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 06:33:58 -0400 fsmithred wrote: > On 10/22/2017 05:18 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 at 16:47:57 -0500 >> goli...@dyne.org wrote: >>> We are happy to announce that 'amprolla3', the rewrite of nextime's >>> amprolla by parazyd and

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis non systemd

2017-10-22 Thread Jaromil
Thanks everyone for adding details, On Fri, 20 Oct 2017, Patrick Meade wrote: > https://github.com/lamby/pkg-redis/commit/6a9e4d0142b45195a0d55945bbc558df4c48707b#diff-9e388da7cd119765989cc22d2bc07e5c This diff clearly shows that redis-sentinel example scripts provided by upstream redis

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread Lars Noodén
On 10/22/2017 12:39 PM, Jaromil wrote: > On Sat, 21 Oct 2017, Lars Noodén wrote: >> Who can update it fix the wording and the link and how did it get closed >> off? > > I can, its in my TODO and will be done soon. Thanks. /Lars ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:28:21 +0900, Olaf wrote in message <87vaj7etwv@member.fsf.org>: > Hi, > > Arnt Karlsen writes: > > > On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 20:37:35 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message > > <20171021193735.gg4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > > > >> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 08:48:57PM +0200,

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:14:24 +0200, Arnt wrote in message <20171022121424.4755f92c@d44>: > On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:28:21 +0900, Olaf wrote in message > <87vaj7etwv@member.fsf.org>: > > > Hi, > > > > Arnt Karlsen writes: > > > > > On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 20:37:35 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread fsmithred
On 10/22/2017 06:51 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 06:33:58 -0400 > fsmithred wrote: > >> On 10/22/2017 05:18 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: >>> On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 at 16:47:57 -0500 >>> goli...@dyne.org wrote: We are happy to announce that

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 14:12:51 +0200, Arnt wrote in message <20171022141252.7d06269c@d44>: > On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:14:24 +0200, Arnt wrote in message > <20171022121424.4755f92c@d44>: > > > On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:28:21 +0900, Olaf wrote in message > > <87vaj7etwv@member.fsf.org>: > > > >

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread Fungal-net
I am still unclear on what the onion repositories are and what our choice is at this stage. Are we on amprolla3? Are debian's non onion addressed used automatically during upgrade or is it an illusion to see http://debian through while the update takes

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 23 October 2017 at 00:39:29, Fungi4All wrote: > go to devuan''s front page and run a text search for onion > it is right there You mean accessing the Devuan repositories via the Tor network? That's a network routing question, not a repository question. Antony. > > From: Antony

Re: [DNG] UEFI and Secure Boot

2017-10-22 Thread Fungal-net
> From: sl...@troubleshooters.com > To: dng > > Hi all, > > I basically said UEFI is junk and Secure Boot is an anti-small-distro > monopolistic practice. These were, and continue to be, my opinions, but > they're just one man's opinion. I can see use cases where Secure Boot >

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

2017-10-22 Thread Tobias Hunger
On Oct 21, 2017 10:05, "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > Tobias, until I read your posting a couple of days ago I did not realise > that UEFI/Secure Boot can be configured such that ONLY my kernels can be > booted, not even fresh install media from the vendor. Thank you very much. >

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 05:50:54PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [cut] > > ..I see the last mirror update on the Debian side was: ... > ftp-master.debian.org 2017-10-22 16:48 305 > arnt@d44:~/Taranis$ lynx -dump \ > http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/project/trace/ |grep _traces > [ ]

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 22:17:00 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message <20171022211700.gi4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 05:50:54PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > ..I see the last mirror update on the Debian side was: ... > > ftp-master.debian.org 2017-10-22 16:48

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 22 October 2017 at 23:28:51, Fungal-net wrote: > I am still unclear on what the onion repositories are Me too - what are you referrring to? > and what our choice is at this stage. Are we on amprolla3? Well, according to what I've seen on the list so far, if you have

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 05:28:51PM -0400, Fungal-net wrote: > I am still unclear on what the onion repositories are and what our choice is > at this stage. Are we on amprolla3? Are debian's non onion addressed used > automatically during upgrade or is it an illusion to see http://debian