On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:14:24 +0200, Arnt wrote in message 
<20171022121424.4755f92c@d44>:

> On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:28:21 +0900, Olaf wrote in message 
> <[email protected]>:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Arnt Karlsen writes:
> >   
> > > On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 20:37:35 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message
> > > <[email protected]>:
> > >    
> > >> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 08:48:57PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > >>
> > >> [cut]
> > >>    
> > >> > >
> > >> > > We have been testing amprolla3 for more than two months now,
> > >> > > on dozens machines, and it has been working like a charm.    
> > >> >
> > >> > ..ok, with jessie + jessie-* + experimental too?
> > >> >    
> > >>
> > >> Yes. You don't need to use both packages.devuan.org and
> > >> pkgmaster.devuan.org. The former serves the packages merged by
> > >> the original amprolla. The latter served the repos merged by
> > >> amprolla3. So choose one of the two.    
> > >
> > > ..done, 613 upgradeable, Obsolete & local dropped to 5 from 6k
> > > and Installed rose by 6k to 7380, so I guess we're headed the
> > > right way, I have e.g. pulseaudio wanting to upgrade from our
> > > 5.0-13+devuan2 to I suspect Debian's systemd'ed 7.1.2~bpo8+1,
> > > what else to look out for?    
> > 
> > I found the same.  I'm on jessie with security, updates and
> > backports enabled.  It turned out that all my upgradable packages
> > are from the backports suite.  Slightly worrying is that a number
> > of these are for devuan-ized packages.  The 'pulseaudio' package
> > you mentioned is one. Another that is probably trouble was
> > 'reportbug'.  The other (source) packages I found were
> > bash-completions and cups.
> > 
> > For non-devuan-ized packages, udev and rsyslog might be problematic.
> > 
> > Hope this helps,  
> 
> ..it does... dropping backports, the 613 upgradeables drops to 60,
> mostly kde's with fishy +deb8uX tails, sudo, dwww and linux-*-3.16,
> while linux-*-4.9, forensic-all et al, gnash, klash etc winds up as
> Obsolete and Locally Created Packages hiking it to 72 from 5, sooo, 
> like Seth Meyers puts it: It's time for a closer look!

..dropping " -t experimental " from aptitude's cli will let it show 
it's built package lists, showing no Upgradeable and no New packages
and "83 bsolete and Locally Created Packages."

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.
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