On 03/05/15 11:29, James Powell wrote:
Has there been any inkling yet of a Devuan iso or bootdisk that we can
unpack something similar to a Gentoo-like stage3 tarball that needs
minimal configuring?
I'm working on it.
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, but not such firmware being
forced into the installation. The freedom of choice thingy, revisited.
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Anto wrote on 03.06.2015 11:48:
On 03/06/15 10:37, Daniel Reurich wrote:
I'd like a straw poll on whether we should include non-free firmware
in our installers by default.
I prefer that all non
Hi,
I'd like a straw poll on whether we should include non-free firmware in
our installers by default.
It's a deviation from Debians traditional position, but a pragmatic one
that shows we care about the end users.
Keen for feedback.
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On 04/06/15 13:52, Jude Nelson wrote:
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Daniel Reurich dan...@centurion.net.nz
mailto:dan...@centurion.net.nz wrote:
Ok,
That was interesting
Here's my thinking on the how and the why.
definition of terms:
user = the person using
ran away with the spoon :D
PS, best way to feed into this project is to raise an issue in our
gitlab: https://git.devuan.org/d-i/firmware-reqd
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to absolutely not ship the
default installer with this approach, then I will withdraw from Devuan
and someone else can take over the maintenance of the packages I've been
working on.
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On 03/06/15 20:37, Daniel Reurich wrote:
Hi,
I'd like a straw poll on whether we should
this for all init systems but
sysvinit, for Jessie, and work on the fully hairy dependency chain for
Jessie+1 a.k.a Ascii.
That could work, but there is nothing stop starting that work in ascii
now (except all the work needed to get Jessie out the door).
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On 20/06/15 05:14, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 09:29:36PM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote:
I expect the dependency chain should be something like:
daemon depends on: init, daemon-sysv-init | daemon-epoch-init
| daemon-systemd-init | daemon-openrc-init |
daemon-upstart-init
of /run/udev/ for alpha.
Thanks,
Jude
That's awesome new Jude. Thanks to you and all who have been
participating on this project.
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I will also (as Devuans maintainer of D-I) consider whether this could
be pulled in for the mini.iso so that it is more accessible provided it
doesn't blow the size out of the water.
Thanks for you report and feedback. I really appreciate it :D
Daniel Reurich.
On 26/06/15 14:26, Gregory
On 22/06/15 23:58, Daniel Reurich wrote:
On 20/06/15 05:14, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 09:29:36PM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote:
I expect the dependency chain should be something like: daemon
depends on: init, daemon-sysv-init | daemon-epoch-init |
daemon-systemd-init | daemon
a few people in their
place.
We won't see kdbus in 4.2 and probably not 4.3 either. By 4.4 it will
most likely have grown some real legs and become generically useful or
be a dead duck.
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as possible and let people
choose. But as with systemd, if any solution prevents being able to
support other solutions, then it's out the door.
That said, pulseaudio should be amenable with a bit of 'gentle
persuasion' from my sledge hammer :P
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packages to make it work properly...
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the issue, then please file an issue here:
https://git.devuan.org/d-i/debian-installer/issues
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On 16 August 2015 7:47:46 AM GMT+12:00, T.J. Duchene t.j.duch...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 03:15:50 -0700
James Powell james4...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Jim! =)
To me, a shim is not the way. Sanitization is what is needed, and if
that requires work, then question this, 'Will the
will make building official CC mirrors easier
too.
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the validity of
the binaries built.
If you want to contribute that work to Devuan we'd sure welcome it.
Or are you here just trolling and trying to divert attention from here
to your own project?
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the required packaging and
infrastructure for derivatives. We're doing the hard work in creating a
fork of Debian, and we don't want to inflict the same pain on those who
wish to build of the fantastic foundation that Debian was and Devuan is
shaping up to be.
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proprietary Linux drivers, and the first that came with
Windows installed instead of Linux.
Nice. How does it perform.
I installed from the devuan-jessie-netboot-i386-alpha2.iso
-- hendrik
Thanks for the report Hendrik
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pointing out:
a) Those 43,000 packages are built from around 15,000 sources (if that)
b) systemd currently touches a very small subset of these packages at
the moment probably in the 100's range, once you discount all the purely
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to a stable
point first, and for that we do need users - even newbs to help us
refine the installer to make it easier across the board.
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I declare this topic a dead.
Let's bury the remains without fanfare and get on with forking Debian
and making Devuan the best universal linux distrobution ever.
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sources.list again,
manually.
I was about to install 0.6.4+devuan3 because 3>1 ;)
AFAIK this hasn't been documented elsewhere?
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;> >
>> >This seems to be a recurring error over the years with Debian and
>> >Ubuntu...
>> >
>> >I verified the MD5 checksums and they are all OK, so that's not the
>> >*real* problem.
>> >
>> >Any hints??
>> &g
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'd be looking. Make
sure that your correctly installing devuan-keyring and that the default
keyring used points to the devuan keyring and not debians. I had a hell
of a time figuring that one out for debian-installer.
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/group is important if not the others.
If you've ended up with uid/gid mismatch you'll end up with all manner
of things not working for DE users that should.
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, although I'd argue that /var/run//$USER or possibly
/var/lib/xdg_runtime/$USER would be better then anything in /tmp.
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On 17/09/15 21:01, tilt! wrote:
Hi,
On 09/17/2015 10:12 AM, Roger Leigh wrote:
> On 11/09/2015 02:33, Daniel Reurich wrote:
>> We could either use $USER_$SESSIONID or $USER/$SESSIONID to implement
>> multiple sessions per user.
>
> This is definitely possible. It wou
which does the
url rewriting and will need to be configured to redirect to your nearest
upstream mirrors.
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titude \
--apt-options --yes \
--build-with-chroot false \
--bootappend-live "boot=live config locales=en_US.UTF-8
keyboard-layouts=en" \
--bootappend-live "boot=live config username=user" \
--bootappend-live "boot=live co
ebuilding.
>
Adam, do you have a vcs we can pull from, or can you provide patch sets
so we can integrate them directly in Devuan.
Thanks,
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On 02/12/15 11:40, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 09:17:00AM +1300, Daniel Reurich wrote:
>> On 02/12/15 08:50, Adam Borowski wrote:
>>> Yes, the crippled version in jessie requires systemd (possibly via -shim) to
>>> do its job. The last good version is
On 02/12/15 12:02, Daniel Reurich wrote:
> On 02/12/15 11:40, Adam Borowski wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 09:17:00AM +1300, Daniel Reurich wrote:
>>> On 02/12/15 08:50, Adam Borowski wrote:
>>>> Yes, the crippled version in jessie requires systemd (possibly via -
together for init. This should (I haven't
done a clean test build to confirm tho) resolve the issues with
debootstrap (even debians) trying to install systemd-sysv.
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> On 04/01/16 06:52, Go Linux wrote:
>> Why are you merging the debian, backports and dmo repos? Is there
>> a way to separate them? I have rarely used backports and always
>> downloaded what I need from dmo when I first instal
our "getting started with
Devuan" guide which has yet to be written.
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use an initramfs as a default is that is the
only sane approach that provides broad support for most use cases. But
of course we will support users being able to have the choice to build
there own initramfs free system too. They just have to build the
tooling needed for that approach as packages for
On 03/01/16 23:19, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 11:13:40PM +1300, Daniel Reurich wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
>> I think you'll find it's probably a package update which included
>> reducing the description to something a bit more concise.
>>
>> To be su
an.org/UsrMerge
https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/users/md/usrmerge.git/plain/debian/README.Debian
If you want to help then please have a look at the open bugs linked on
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On 10/01/16 05:15, Clarke Sideroad wrote:
> On 09/01/16 03:23 AM, Daniel Reurich wrote:
>>
>> On 09/01/16 21:15, Jaromil wrote:
>>> dear Clarke,
>>>
>>> thanks for the notice
>>>
>>> On Fri, 08 Jan 2016, Clarke Sideroad wrote:
-autostart into netman??
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On 10/01/16 18:04, aitor_czr wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
>
> On 01/10/2016 02:37 AM, Daniel Reurich <dan...@centurion.net.nz> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wonder why netman-autostart is a separate package. I think that
>> functionality should be included in the netman
upload kerlnels and or configs, together with reasons why that
> config is choosen ?
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Sure, how about talk.devuan.org
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I can get it all set up and hand it over once it builds
successfully.
That's probably the fastest/most seemless way at the moment.
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> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 07:54:21AM +1300, Daniel Reurich wrote:
>> On 22/12/15 03:59, Adam Borowski wrote:
>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 12:53:18PM +, Mitt Green wrote:
>>>> deb http://angband.pl/debian/ nosystemd-un
upgraded currently, upower,
>> it requires libplist2 but there is libplist3 in Unstable.
>
> Fixed.
>
Does libplist3 introduce api changes that we should be concerned about?
If not I'll bump the version in our upower package for ceres
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> Anybody knows where can i find a stable branch of *libpthread* ?
I thought libpthread was a part of glibc.
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>>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2015 12:14 PM, Edward Bartolo
>>> <edb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I want to access git.devuan.org to create a new netman-autostart
>>>> project. Iceweasel is still insisting it i
possibly /media/
where:
is the label the filesystem header - of it it is missing
the UUID, and if that is not set then a short path name such as the usb
port id
<sdX[n]> is the transient device id as per /dev/sdX[n]
is the fully exposed path to the device as per
/de
d anymore.
>
Why are they using gstreamer in the first place? Why not use the alsa
api's?
Perhaps we should port it to the alsa api and push it back upstream.
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On 23/12/15 05:32, Emiliano Marini wrote:
> Just expired today.
Yes! I reported this to Jaromil and Nextime and have assurances it will
be fixed today.
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On 24/12/15 12:26, Daniel Reurich wrote:
> I have a pulseaudio package in the works... but our build system is
> broken due to the ssl cert issue so I can't even try to build it at the
> moment...
>
> Daniel
>
> On 24/12/15 12:21, dev1fanboy wrote:
>> Don't have
it. If you could raise an issue here:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/Installer_Feedback/issues
(This is a newly created space for providing feedback where the
installer maintainers will be notified and able to respond. You will be
required to register for git.devuan.org tho)...
Kind
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but when I issue:
> apt-get install -t nosystemd cups cups-client
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As soon as our CI build system is fixed we will get systemd free cups in
Devuan. Should be sometime in the next day or 3.
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On 12/01/16 09:09, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> Daniel Reurich <dan...@centurion.net.nz> writes:
>>> As a packager how do I make sure README is actually installed?
>>
>> use dh_installman - and read the manpage for it
>>
>> :D
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> Jessie repository mean that the 4.5.0 kernel is considered stable?
It would only have been there if you either had the jessie-backports or
unstable/experimental repositories also setup, and in all those cases
there is no guarantee it is stable.
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>> 4. The Devuan package appears orphaned, the code has not been touched
>>for about a year. Considering its upstream is no longer maintained
>>either, the package might impose a security risk not tenable for a
>>stable release.
>>
>> [1] Cf. https://github.com/data-modul/slim
>>
>>
>> ---
age that does the
>> above. I have a feeling that this is something I can do.
>>
>> Edward
>>
Or we could just package up the old udev rules that used to be used to
generate the names...
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> As a packager how do I make sure README is actually installed?
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apart from having to force alsa to set the card order and setting up
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On 10/02/16 19:53, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is an email sent to me by Daniel Reurich<git...@git.devuan.org>
>
> Begin Email Quote:
>
> Hi Edward,
>
> I've forked and tried to build your project:
> https://git.devuan.org/net/simple-netaid
&
ilures for other people.
>
Can you spin us the patch, and I'll build it for Devuan.
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Not yet, but it's noted and I'll work on that next week once work has
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Debian as a project doesn't want a "fully supported non-systemd
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h_systemd package
to add support for runit into each respective package. This way each
package has it's own runit scripts included in the package but they are
only deployed and set up if runit-init is installed. This is done using
hooks in dpkg... I'm a bit vague on the details at this stage, but
Hi
Setup a repo for devuan backports using the merged mirror and jessie-backports
as the target distrobution.
On 14 February 2016 9:55:36 PM NZDT, swdev wrote:
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>
>Long time lurker - first post :)
>
>Thanks for all the hard-work from the Devuan developers.
>
>I
On 16 February 2016 3:35:55 PM NZDT, Steve Litt
wrote:
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>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 01:05:25PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>> > Edward Bartolo writes:
>> > > I need to
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bitcoin or forever hold onto an obsolete library for one package where
the maintainers refuse to switch to a newer version.
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about how to best manage this.
Any discussion on this issue should be directed to
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> Gruß
> Thomas
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Any chance someone can fix it with relevant information similar to the
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> armv6+FP2/rpi0/1 users out there.
> Pity, we could have used them here.
>
For jessie you're probably right, but I am keen once Jessie is out to
look at building the entire debian archive, and that would make it
possible to have a native arm6+FP2 (arm6hf??)
On 15/03/16 02:41, aitor_czr wrote:
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> On 05/03/16 13:31, aitor_czr wrote:
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>> Something like this?
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>> 0.1.20160314+1deb1
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> Sorry:
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> 0.1.jude20160314+1deb1
0.1.jude20160314-1 is the correct way (according to debian policy).
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On 15/03/16 01:51, Mat wrote:
> On 05/03/16 14:31, aitor_czr wrote:
>> Hi Daniel, Didier
>>
>>> Le 14/03/2016 00:07, Daniel Reurich a écrit :
>>>>> I'd suggest using a version like:
>>>>> 0.1.jude+>>>>
>>>>> Tha
u want arm64 for rpi3.
We have arm64 built too... missing a couple of packages due to FTBFS's
(build system issue with newpid).
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On 15/03/16 11:33, aitor_czr wrote:
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> On 03/14/2016 09:04 PM, Daniel Reurich <dan...@centurion.net.nz> wrote:
>> On 15/03/16 02:41, aitor_czr wrote:
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>>> > On 05/03/16 13:31, aitor_czr wrote:
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>>>> >&
no.
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We don't yet provide the contents or translations yet for /merged repo.
It's on the todo list for amprolla.
Regards,
Daniel.
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ith my NOP code.
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> Would it be possible to share that .exe off-list? It would come in very
> handy with killing the nags on my own Win7 box.
You can uninstall and hide (to prevent from reinstalling) a couple of
updates to get rid of the nags permanently.
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> similar users would benefit from it.
Donations are always welcome. ;-)
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On 06/04/16 08:26, Noel Torres wrote:
> Daniel Reurich <dan...@centurion.net.nz> escribió: [...]
>> Yup. Absolutely normal. You issue is probably just a transient
>> issue resulting from the lag between a debian update and amprolla
>> rebuilding the merged repo.
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> work and then switch to a normal file hierarchy when ready.
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I strongly disagree. If it's to be packaged, it should be packaged
properly in keeping with Debian policies (which Devuan has adopted) with
regards to FHS and location of parts.
Vdev being an essential system tool should be in
On 20 March 2016 9:07:48 AM NZDT, Didier Kryn <k...@in2p3.fr> wrote:
>Le 19/03/2016 21:01, Daniel Reurich a écrit :
>> On 20/03/16 08:56, Didier Kryn wrote:
>>> >Le 19/03/2016 19:05, aitor_czr a écrit :
>>>> >>Hi all,
>>>> >>
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