dear Aldemir,
On Tue, 23 Dec 2014, Aldemir Akpinar wrote:
On 22 December 2014 at 19:26, Jaromil [1]jaro...@dyne.org wrote:
Dear Init Freedom lovers,
Once again the Veteran Unix Admin collective salutes you!
snip
Thanks for the updates, it's delightful to hear
is the right
thing to do right now, perhaps it could have even been done a couple
years earlier...
however now, looking forward to install Devuan 1.0 in 2015.
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hi,
A fellow VUA has ...anonymously setup a logo survey here
https://it.surveymonkey.com/s/PJT8T3Q
On Sun, 08 Feb 2015, hellekin wrote:
On 02/08/2015 07:55 AM, Jaromil wrote:
We had many logo submissions as one can see here
http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Logo
with the
restriction of providing open source assets (ex: icons, research,
etc.) in a repository, all under Creative Commons, reusable by
others.
agree.
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way Debian handles it? I'm not really sure how to
read files like /etc/grub.d/10_linux and I wonder if the *plain* grub2
syntax would be much simplier than that.
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TRIOS is a great effort. I personally use zfs in production and approve their
technical choices including openrc which I believe to be a good candidate for
Devuan's future too.
with Devuan we will keep the focus of matching Debian as much as possible for
the 1.0, yet I look forward to Dragan's
On February 17, 2015 10:41:12 PM GMT+01:00, Neo Futur d...@ww7.be wrote:
Nate, could you please summarize Luke's question? I haven't been able
to completely read any of his posts.
its more than just a question, but you probably want :
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00695.html
hey thanks everyone I actually didnt know the --enable-kvm Switch was such an
improvement :-) this will make the development process snappier
feedback on how the pre alpha feels is welcome, we shall work on making a few
things better, looking fwd to dimkr input if we can already get around
relying on everyone good sense in distinguishing and in patiently
ignoring and most importantly not feeding trolls :^)
hack on
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2015, Alberto Zuin - Liste wrote:
Hi Jaromil,
thank you for the gift!
and thank you for the giftlab! 3
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2015, jo...@trash-mail.com wrote:
As you may have read, Linus Torvalds considers to call the next
Linux release 4.0 instead of 3.20. Many people have been wondering
why, but
yea read that back a year ago. makes sense.
there is one quite radical feature hidden
/groups/packages-base
and packed with the SDK https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-sdk
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, allowing
maintainers to examine the difference and merge by hand.
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2015, T.J. Duchene wrote:
Such discussions can be productive if they remains civilized, and does not
distract from the overall work of the project. If my recent discussion with
Steve Litt about C, etc has been considered a distraction, I will be happy to
remove it to
On 15 February 2015 17:49:54 GMT+00:00, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
l...@lkcl.net wrote:
http://slashdot.org/submission/4203115/removing-libsystemd0-from-a-live-running-debian-system
if anyone would like to help get the word out, as a way to actively
engage more developers and end-users to
dear Nuno,
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
Assuming i don't get moderated out (unlike the resident troll),
the reason why your emails are arriving delayed is due to your email
configuration: your Sender header address may not be the same address
you subscribed, or so. sorry I
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015, Peter Olson wrote:
On March 21, 2015 at 6:36 PM Robert Storey robert.sto...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hopefully, it's just a rumor, though it sounds real.
Indeed, I've been wondering why RMS hasn't commented on systemd long
ago when it became obvious that it would
be debated, something Italians remember very well:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Popular_Culture
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after the 1.0
release. Ultimately I believe that the literature produced by D-CENT and
the mature tones of this discussion are even more solid than a declared
manifesto or constitution at this stage.
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hi Karl, Gravis,
On Thu, 05 Mar 2015, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Gravis:
replace whatever you added with this line:
deb [arch=amd64,i386] http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/ unstable main
contrib non-free
the run apt-get update. it should complain:
W: GPG error:
On 6 March 2015 09:06:45 CET, Neo Futur d...@ww7.be wrote:
the Grsecurity/Pax hardening of the kernel, will you think of it,
instead of SELinux, or as an option besides SELinux? It sure will be
attainable in the way I got it in Debian in that Tip, but official
support would be so great!
On Fri, 06 Mar 2015, Luke Diamand wrote:
Is there anything you need help with on this?
later on yes, mirroring and perhaps hosting Jenkins builder arms like
Martijn is already doing I believe. However Nextime will have more
informations and we will have instructions for various levels of
On Fri, 06 Mar 2015, hellekin wrote:
GRSecurity, and Knock support. Knock is a kernel patch that enables
single packet port knocking [0], thwarting common scanning attacks. I
would love to see this running on Devuan. Parabola GNU/Linux was the
first distro to deploy it, and I've been
dear Jeremy,
as written in my announcement to the list, Vagrant should be installed
from the website packages (yes, the wiki directions are wrong in suggesting
rubygems).
For other problems you encounter on running Vagrant, please ask on Gentoo
forums. Thanks for taking the time to test Devuan
On Thu, 12 Mar 2015, Steve Litt wrote:
Hi all,
I just ran across the following quote, which I think the dng people
will appreciate:
I'm done with my desktop being someone else's research project.
moreover on libudev
looking at Debian bug 735275
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=735275
and the wide impact it has on upstream (nodejs, webkit, chrome etc. are
affected by the bump to libudev.1) I'd rather keep libudev.0 around as
a vdev patched version, would that be
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 04:47:32PM -0700, Go Linux wrote:
A link to Revolution OS was recently posted on irc. I had never
seen it before. It seems that the cycle has come full circle and now
Devuan is going back to the future and reinventing the
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015, Jude Nelson wrote:
Hey Isaac,
So, I'm looking at startx here:
*[1]http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/app/xinit/tree/startx.cpp
Where's the offending block of code?* Is it lines 191-200?
Looks like it.
Looking at the commit history
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 11:16:02AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
[1] [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity
and resistance:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-September/thread.html
dear Martin,
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Bug#761658: Please do not default to using Google nameservers
tl;dr - isn't there a preseed directive to change the default?!
Marco tagged it as wontfix. Seriously, if I didn´t configure a
nameserver I *mean* it. I don´t want it
On Sat, 28 Mar 2015, Jude Nelson wrote:
It's not ready yet--it's not yet ABI-compatible with libudev (but it is
API-compatible--Kay Sievers' tests pass when recompiled).
ACK
Some background for the rest of the list.* I've managed to extract
the required variables, macros, and
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, devuan...@spamgourmet.net wrote:
I did argue for some of things I think are sensible, just like
everybody else here. All of them can be implemented _without_ systemd
(and I have or had them running that way). Yes, one of the ideas I
like was first proposed by Lennart, but
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Ok, that sounds like a plan.
But which is the default DE for Devuan-- XFCE or Mate?
It will be Xfce4, since Mate is somehow too big.
Later on, we may still want to have a respin installer and/or liveCD
with Mate default and anyway Mate is
hi Didier,
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015, Didier Kryn wrote:
It seems we will have to wait a little for Mate, and maybe also
for all the lightweight tiled DE's.
we'll likely support all lightweight desktops just out of the box, I
doubt they have hard dependencies on systemd. Enlightnement perhaps
hi Sisyphus,
On Wed, 04 Mar 2015, sisyphus wrote:
Question: Is there an rss feed with which to follow the Devuan
Weekly News ? For those of us who rely on newsbeuter...
yes http://lists.devuan.org/dwn/atom.xml
just being setted up these days, unfortunately due to some adjustements
it got a
dear Hendrik,
On Sun, 01 Mar 2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:
I tried using the valentine installer on a disk that already had three
primary partitions and a lot of empty space.
I could not get manual partitioning to leave the existing partitions
alone and install devuan to secondary
On 28 February 2015 16:19:58 CET, Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sat, 2015-02-28 at 09:45 -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
I read the Debian installer mailing list since I upgraded to Jessie
early and had huge difficulties. Yes, there are currently many
gotchas. There's
are spawning daemons
like there is no tomorrow, polluting the process tree and making it very
difficult to know what is what...
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On Thu, 05 Mar 2015, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
Mutt is on my todo-stack
in case you fancy an out-of-the box setup of msmtp, fetchmail, mutt and
notmuch search over maildirs plus abook integration, have a look at
https://www.dyne.org/software/jaro-mail :^)
I certainly plan to package it for Devuan.
On Thu, 05 Mar 2015, Ста Деюс wrote:
В Wed, 04 Mar 2015 21:13:43 +0100
x...@openmailbox.org пишет:
I'm not a professional artist, but maybe it's the only thing that I
can collaborate. Please, find attach a link with two images with
sketches for your consideration. There are a logo idea
On Sun, 22 Feb 2015, Didier Kryn wrote:
I must confess I discovered ZeroMQ recently; it looks like the
thing the programmer always needed since the advent of networking.
I was blaming myself for not having used it in a
multi-host+multi-language project started 7 years ago,
and only fallback to X / legacy code paths in exceptional
situations.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744764
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 01:19:04PM +, KatolaZ wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 01:04:05PM +, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Ста Деюс sthu.d...@openmailbox.org
wrote:
But, at the first, what is planned to perform
dear Jonathan,
you have very good concerns on usability. After Devuan 1.0 we might be
able to quick fix desktop behaviour, I bet many developers involved will
go do respins and blends.
however, for what concerns us here and at least until the Devuan 1.0
release (which is a base system) you
stated in the public and that also
raised some educated skepticism and criticism as they weren't yet based
on concrete achievements.
Said that, I hope this message does not discourage you, but helps
channel the enthusiasm in good productive ways.
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easier for people to test
and give you feedback.
ciao
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but as a non-dev my
question might not carry the same weight!
not true, it is all about the attitude really.
please go ahead, we count on everyone here to take initiative and do
what one thinks can be useful for the progress of this project, which is
not just made of code, obviously.
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On 21 February 2015 06:13:29 CET, Jude Nelson jud...@gmail.com wrote:
Congratulations Dima! This is wonderful news for the future of Devuan!
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Dima Krasner d...@dimakrasner.com
wrote:
Hello folks,
Good news on the logind front! I got the pre-alpha to play
hello i just thought of sharing a simple idea see if anyone likes to get
started at it:
how about designing a badge that all distros that are systemd free can show?
this is not strictly Devuan related, but will benefit people willing to
understand such an
important architectural aspect of a
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Linuxito wrote:
Of course. Should I make that link public on this list?
perhaps not, just mail the pass to golinux
waters are calmer, but trolls and vandalism is still behind the corner,
we cannot be too lax on our infrastructure. by the time the systemd
hooligans will
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Linuxito wrote:
Thanks Jaromil,
We outpassed the 100 responses limit in the survey (122 actually)
and sadly surveymonkey will only show you that 100 (unless you
pay).
we do have funds to pay that in case the design workgroup deems it as a
useful way
and connman is rich enough for
now.
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:
Prior to recent (at least in Debian) releases, Xorg came with the
classic checkered monochrome pattern, i'm cool with that :)
No. The checkered monochrome background flickered horribly on some
monitors. Bad default.
AFAIK it was there exactly
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Nate Bargmann wrote:
* On 2015 22 Mar 22:09 -0500, Peter Olson wrote:
On March 22, 2015 at 6:29 AM Jaromil jaro...@dyne.org wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015, Peter Olson wrote:
RMS didn't call me a troll, he answered the question. Somebody else
took it upon
dear Franco
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015, Franco Lanza wrote:
The issue was caused by a down debian mirror repository from where
amprolla was requesting files to update the merged repo that was
causing amprolla to fail.
It's now fixed, and in a matter of 20 mins from now ( 01:24am italy
time) the
on this list who
are already happily experimenting and reporting their experiences!
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On April 29, 2015 1:19:25 PM GMT+01:00, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com
wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 12:31:16AM +0200, Franco Lanza wrote:
On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 05:16:42PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
acpid and acpi-support-base have already been removed from tasksel.
We
dear David,
On Fri, 01 May 2015, David Hare wrote:
Thanks! I just tested the new debootstrap (same opts as before).
There were no such errors in the bootstrap nor subsequent manual
chroot.
Later yesterday, the gpg error seemed to resolve itself during
chroot, no clue how or why.
you can
On Mon, 27 Apr 2015, Jordan Roy wrote:
Do not feed the trolls, please.
This ML already has so much noise, please don't make it worse.
Let's keep this ML relevant and pleasant.
thanks for the call,
just a curiosity: is people being banned or moderated from debian-user
and forums for being
dear Steve,
On Sun, 03 May 2015, Steve Litt wrote:
=
# Anti-systemd people hate women intellectual DLL Hell
:0:
* From.*trillodllh...@nativeweb.net
* ^(To|Cc).*dng@lists.dyne.org
$GARBAGE
=
thanks.
Besides,
dear Jaret,
thanks for your information
On Tue, 05 May 2015, Jaret Cantu wrote:
eudev continues to pull in relevant udev changes from the systemd
tree (without the init-specific filth, obviously) and even provides
some fixes of its own. It is like a window into some magical world
where
dear Noel,
I'm happy that you are back, we really miss DWN, but I'm also sorry to
contradict you on this one.
On Tue, 05 May 2015, Noel Torres wrote:
As a resume: If you want a systemd-free system, Devuan is your
distribution, and will always be. But if you want a system designed to
be
dear Roy,
On 13 May 2015 18:33:44 CEST, Roy Nielsen amr...@gmail.com wrote:
We released a (beta) security tool to give non-windows operating
systems a
base level of security based on government guideline and industry best
practices.
https://github.com/CSD-Public/stonix
The documentation is a
dear Daniel,
On 12 May 2015 22:58:24 CEST, Daniel Reurich dan...@centurion.net.nz wrote:
Hi
I wonder if Devuan should rebrand it's relationship to Debian as a
Derivative rather then a Fork. It may help to smooth things over a
bit.
This may also be a good marketing approach as well as reduce
dear Phil
At dyne.org we do not support the automated 'digest' feature of mailman.
Meaning: use it at your own risk, I recommend subscribing using a proper mail
client with filtering.
If you like to only read a digest, refer to the Devuan News managed by an
editorial group
of volunteers.
The
cheers to vdev!
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Jude Nelson wrote:
I'm using it as the device manager in my copy of the alpha Vagrant image,
and others have tested it locally (but not for booting, AFAIK).* I'm
working on getting it to boot the the qcow2 image, which boots from LVM.
FYI and
On April 17, 2015 6:30:12 AM GMT+02:00, hellekin helle...@dyne.org wrote:
The donations page [0] says Next one is due by the end of March 2015.
Did I miss it?
no, I am late. I'm about to do it.
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On Tue, 07 Apr 2015, Martijn Dekkers wrote:
we could perhaps tie the dev list in with notifications from jenkins,
gitlab etc to give a good general overview of whats moving
ok, but please keep patient a little while more because the preparations
of the alpha release are in the way, once
hi,
On Fri, 10 Apr 2015, Brad Campbell wrote:
On 09/04/15 23:56, Laurent Bercot wrote:
On 09/04/2015 10:37, Jaromil wrote:
a -Dev list is there already, just not public and invite only.
That's really a shame, because I would love to have access to that list -
even read-only. Isn't
be in place, with a reasonable policy about documentation and
versioning and changes being negotiated rather than imposed
unilaterally, then most of my fears about systemd/Linux would vanish.
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and for
now I'm using LVM default partitioning since that grants the maximum
flexibility for post-install resizing.
I hope this new -auto installer format will be useful to you, it is
certainly being useful for me.
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dear Steve,
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015, Steve Litt wrote:
Hi all,
When Irrwahn mentioned that cups needed depoetterization
I would really prefer if we avoid such a... personalising neologism
lets talk about systemd?
we all need to continue working to avoid personal attacks. If we don't
do that
Dave's report confirms some problems we knew about, on which Dimkr has also
done some research and development (loginkitd etc.). Overall I don't believe
they'll be difficult to fix, but we need to establish a workflow on the desktop
usability side to nail down the issues and track their status.
dear Klaus,
On Thu, 02 Jul 2015, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
So I am interested in the strategy, devuan will go here.
1st of all, here you can see some preliminary work I've done months ago
to save certain packages, sanitize Debian configurations and recuperate
the FFMpeg binary
dear aleskandro,
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015, aleskandro wrote:
The patch was merged. Now devuan is supported by rvm in the branch master.
many thanks for your contribution and good luck with your project!
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On 19 August 2015 11:56:35 CEST, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Aitor:
Did you try with debmirror? An example:
No, didn't know about it, thanks for the tip. For me it is of it is
of lesser value since I already have a debian mirror (I ran an official
mirror a few years ago) och don't whish to
dear Edward
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015, Edward Bartolo wrote:
Although I have a working Lazarus written frontend, I am getting the
message, it may not be accepted in Devuan, for the reason it is
written in Lazarus Pascal.
I doubt that can be a valid reason to exclude your code from being
packaged
On 23 August 2015 21:52:46 BST, Go Linux goli...@yahoo.com wrote:
I agree that the inclusion of ANY systemd files at this point is a BIG
target for comments like these. VUAs et al . . . time to clean house .
its so easy to just remove systemd packages from amprolla...
and so much more work
On 18 August 2015 20:23:36 CEST, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:06:25 +0100
Rainer Weikusat rainerweiku...@virginmedia.com wrote:
DStoicheff pubne...@gmail.com writes:
I am positive this post will raise the blood pressure
of some, but it is long overdue
dear Karl,
thanks for your analysis
we haven't yet worked on the mirroring mechanism, but we will
once done, there will be a script and it will be easy
I guess it will be a sort of amprolla satellite process
so that the mirror redirection will be handled by nextime's software
however it is
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
could thus considered to be a bait, what was the point, exactly?
ehehehe, exactly
BTW on the bright side, yesterday I did something quite daring
went switching from Debian wheezy to Devuan jessie on a production
machine which runs with an LVM raid
On July 29, 2015 7:17:23 PM GMT+02:00, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com
wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 17:07:32 +0200
tilt! t...@linuxfoo.de wrote:
I am certain there is a way of solving this automounting
problem (if I may call it that) cleanly, without the use
of either of them. :-)
On 8 August 2015 09:28:42 CEST, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net
wrote:
If, instead, they start removing the sysv scripts, and including
homebrew systemd units - then we're in for a mess of rework.
both me, Franco and other VUAs are literally aiming to a fork, either after
Jessie or
:37 CET we will go on probably for an hour or two, will be nice to
see each other in person and have a closer look at our plans.
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:
I do not understand this entire thread.
I have not a clue what a MirDevuan WTF would be.
What does the Mir prefi contribute the the eaning?
What does WTF mean in thei context. I mean what the fuck?
yep. this is sort of going bonkers.
me and other
On 24 July 2015 05:26:00 CEST, Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 01:53:15AM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:
I do not understand this entire thread.
yep. this is sort of going bonkers.
[... Isaac's detailed explanation ...]
Does
: this project will keep nextime
busy for fully working Devuan support on RPi :^) plus will help us have
a very useful device for the sort of common keyboard/mouse switching
issues across physical terminals at home and in office.
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Devuan as
a main topic, but it should certainly leave space to this very community
and the importance of historical memory when designing new systems.
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On Sun, 26 Jul 2015, Steve Litt wrote:
I thought we'd decided on Xfce
sure! we are not debating a new decision on the default desktop here
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2015, Svante Signell wrote:
On Sun, 2015-07-26 at 23:17 -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
If I might say so, I HATE automount. Click to mount is fine, but
automounting peripheral drives like jump drives, CDs and whatnot is an
inexcusable security risk, in my opinion, even under a
dear Martin,
DNG is an open and public discussion place, not strictly bound to Devuan
nor to Systemd: its the campfire after the exodus from Debian and it
gathers people with different focus and interests.
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
You basically give them public
re all,
we have setup a new alias for the official devuan.org domain name, to
make it easier for english speakers when they want to communicate this
project: dev-one.org
our project's official name and branding stays as Devuan (which is now
also a registered trademark, just to make sure it is
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr wrote:
I can see that, now, Jaromil, you basically seem to be inclined to
allow in Devuan pretty much just what I tried to get available in it
(not just for me, but for others who will want to go that way).
yes Miroslav - and vdev is one
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015, Marlon Nunes wrote:
Until one can use wayland to get real work done, we can start talking
about it again.
I'm in favor of keeping this up as a general attitude for Devuan
choices. It is really important to understand that many of us are here
because we rely on tech in
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, T.J. Duchene wrote:
Not really, it wasn't a 'favorite' because it was not free.
I'm just saying that actual CDE use was rather a niche. Most used
something else back in the day.
didn't it ship by default with Sun and SGI machines?
I remember using it
as well something
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, Roger Leigh wrote:
I imagine the reason why Glib was written in C is because binding to
other languages is easier with C than C++.
I expect so. C is fairly straightforward.
This was certainly the original intent. But having used the bindings,
my experience was that
dear Golinux
On July 15, 2015 6:16:32 PM GMT+02:00, Go Linux goli...@yahoo.com wrote:
Maybe what Devuan needs is a 'sys admin' version (perhaps w/o a DE) and
an 'ordinary user' version (with xfce and less complicated tools than
vi as default).
as we stated on the website, me and others believe
On July 15, 2015 5:06:33 PM GMT+02:00, Renaud OLGIATI
ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 16:38:43 +0200
Franco Lanza next...@nexlab.it wrote:
traditionally UNIX has vi, this is why i'm suggesting it.
Except that Debian does not have it when a boot prob sends you to
dear Sam,
we change the deps of policykit-1
https://git.devuan.org/packages-base/policykit-1/blob/master/debian/control
the commit history has too much info
as the autobuild also reports there from
Jenkins, however the modification
needed is very minimal and in this case
was made by an early
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015, Svante Signell wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 10:46 +0100, shraptor wrote:
> > Maybe he is just swamped with work.
>
> He said he follows what's happening and that there are still some
> hiccups to work out. He also wrote that he finds less and less time
> time to work on
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