Two empire falls recorded during the last two millenia it are the fall
of the mighty Roman Empire and that of the Ottoman Empire. Both were
extremely powerful influencing most of the worlds of their times, but
they fell.
What I expect from systemd and its adoption by many distributions is
to
Let me understand... So, this excellent coder first grabs the
opportunity offered to him by RedHat, and now, after the latter made
him rich, he is leaving them! Please, anyone explain to me, how can
anyone extend a day beyond the usual 24 hours? Systemd is not a simple
game like the many one can
Dear All,
Going to packages/debian.org I found other packages similar to medit
like bluefish and jedit. I tried jedit first, but its font rendering
is aggressive on my aging eyes and resorted to using bluefish which
has its font rendering more comparable to medit's.
That is the beauty of open
Dear All,
Upgrading to chimeara removed medit, a text editor I used for writing
code and any other plain text document. I could not install it and it
seems it has been removed from the repository. Searching online for a
recently updated source tarball, I did not find any. It seems it has
been
Quote: Aitor wrote:
"Being about five years on from what was your simple-netaid project,
which has substantially
evolved since then hoping that the outcome will be for the good of the
project, the idea of
reviving both your backend and gui in free pascal, but this time drawn
upon libnetaid and
Hi Golinux,
If Devuan users have other alternatives to my project, it is a
pleasure to know. My current pleasure is being able to still use
Devuan without systemd which used to frequently crash my machines. I
have learnt, and in this, you were a VERY GOOD TEACHER, that having a
too fat ego, does
Dear Devuan Developers and Users,
First a well deserved thanks goes to all developers who dedicate their
precious time to the development of Devuan. Second, my thanks goes to
all users.
The name "snetaid" made me remember of my now defunct project.
Searching on the project's git repository I
The rise of the new inquisition as a respondent has aptly described is
worrying. A person loses all their merits as a consequence of one
error, controversial opinion or belief. An intellectually brilliant
person like Stallman is more than one opinion or belief. The several
decades they have lived
Dear All,
I read the suggested shell script to provide an overlay filesystem in
Raspbian and found nothing that can damage my setup. I will use that
script. All file writes will directed to RAM.
Edward
--
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
(Albert Einstein)
If
Dear All,
I would like to harden my Raspberry Pi music player to prevent
filesystem damage on power failures. Reading about how to boot the Pi
in readonly mode, I found there is a script which can do the job
without much bothering on my part. However, it is better to find a
custom solution rather
Dear All,
After the modesetting issue stopped manifesting itself for some days,
it started again, and now, it is almost happening with every system
boot. As the sceen is completely unreadable with unaligned pixels, I
tried the modprobe command without a display and paying attention not
to make
Huh! Geekiness, in some circumstances, can mean lots of wealth! I has
happened to some: I cannot blame them for trying their luck.
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Dear All,
Lately, I am noticing Waterfox has lost the ability to display my
add-ons, which are AdGuard AdBlocker and NoScript. I had about two
more in the past, but it is becoming increasingly difficult to have
any that work. My preferences are an ad-free internet experience, or
at least, if not
Dear All,
The issue seems to have been caused by the laptop's battery
electronics. I removed the battery and reconfigured the kernel package
to rebuild initrd.img. Rebooting did not reproduce the issue. However,
I need several days to confirm the issue has truly been resolved.
Thanks.
Dear All,
Lately, on an HP Probook 4540s, while booting Devuan Boewulf the
screen becomes completely unreabled with unsynchronized lines of
pixels. I will not be surprised if this is some sick joke by HP, to
force their customers to buy new, but I do not know if this is the
case with what I am
Hi,
Lately, when I attempt to update Devuan Boewulf, apt-get fails
complaining that I should explicitly accept the repositories. Reading
'man apt-secure' talks about changes in Debian's security which has
the aim to reinforce package security further. While this is good
news, it is proving also
Hi Everyone,
On Boewult when XFCE4 starts, the mouse pointer remains unresponsive
for about 2 minutes. This is a touchpad mouse on HP Probook 4540s.
The only module that seems to be related that is loaded is psmouse.
This is from dmesg:
# dmesg | grep mouse
[2.51] mousedev: PS/2 mouse
Hi,
SystemD detractors may, like myself, be repelled from using it because
everytime they installed a systemd based distribution, it always
greeted them with a system-wide freeze. Microsoft Windows has solved
that issue of system-wide freezes since almost two decades.
On my music player based on
Hi,
While trying to boot Boewulf I encountered two or three occasions of a
serious video modesetting malfunction the result of which is a
completely garbaged display. The display is completely unreadable,
although unreadable is not the appropriate term to use as there is
nothing that remotely
Hi,
I upgraded Ascii to Beowulf and successfully used the new version of
Waterfox. However, there are certain issues like a missing copy of
dpkg-reconfigure. I also noticed that Beowulf now comes with more
stringent security. A side effect of the increased security caused my
version of
Hi,
I will upgrade to Beowulf. As usual, I will upgrade dpkg, apt,
aptitude and the kernel first and then reboot with the new versions.
Then, I will do an "apt-get dist-upgrade".
If there are more critical packages which need to be upgraded first,
please post. The above worked in Debian when
Hi,
I tried to extract the contents of the current .tar.gz2 archive in
/opt as suggested but failed with the following error:
-ERROR-
# tar xjf waterfox-current-2020.04.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 .
tar: .: Not found in archive
tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
Hi,
I would like to ask whether Devuan and Waterfox are still compatible.
Updates of Waterfox are not working. I tried the classic version as
the new one may have more issues.
The 'old' version of waterfox I am using freezes the mouse pointer on startup.
The error is the following:
Hi,
Thanks for the links. The https://github.com/Ho-Ro/Hantek6022API is a
promising resource. My USB oscilloscope is the version succeeding
Hantek6022.
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Hi,
First of all thanks for replying. It seems the driver is installed
according to usb-devices. The interesting stanza is the following:
T: Bus=07 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 6 Spd=480 MxCh= 0
D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=04b5 ProdID=6cde
These last few days I tried Debian Stretch with systemd on a piece of
'old' hardware. I used Stretch to allow snapd and then openhantek to
be installed.
The following is my experience: I do not intend to negatively
criticise systemd just for the sake of it. I would like to recount my
experience,
Dear All,
Inits need to understand unit files, give them that functionality.
That is far more efficient compared to what you are doing.
Pseudo Code:
1) check for the presence of a unit file
2) if it exists
a) branch to function to read unit file and run daemon
b) if NOT execute shell script to
Quote from Bruce Ferrel: "There are actually a couple of ways around
the SD wear issue, even though people seem to dearly LOVE SSDs with
the exact same issue;
1.) Use a USB drive.
2.) Somewhat more esoteric, PXE boot and run from an NFS image."
[/Quote]
You are right, people love SD Cards, not
Hi all,
The Raspberry Pi is very frequency used with an SD Card which is
highly intolerant of frequent writes as these are limited. My first SD
Card became read only after about six weeks with Devuan running. Using
Raspbian, this issue did not repeat itself.
Needless to state, although it seems,
Hi,
I have been using the Raspberry Pi for a music player with an IQaudIO
DAC PRO card. First, I used Devuan, which very sadly, did not
recognize the DAC. After about 2 months of using Devuan, my SDCard,
was burnt: no more write cycles were allowed and it become read-only.
To correct this, and at
Since, some mentioned KDE, I would like to recount my latest
experience with it. I was having difficulty with XFCE as its touch pad
configuration is very poor. Moving the mouse pointer around was like
dragging 100Kg across rough ground! The displacement of the mouse
pointer across the screen was
As far as I remember, you have to make sure the bootloader's kernel is
at a sector that LILO can access. GPT is too new for LILO. You also
have to provide space where the bootloader saves its second stage,
always if my assumption that it uses the same mechanism used by legacy
GRUB, is correct.
Steve Litt wrote: "Unfortunately, these guys weren't unusual. Way too
many programmers, in
the name of avoiding reinventing the wheel, integrate somebody else's
wheel, when all they needed was an easily available single spoke. You
know who suffers? The distro maintainers and the users."
That is
To pay my bills online I use Chromium as I have no other choice.
Websites are becoming dictators as to which browser one uses.
To do normal browsing, I am using Waterfox which is Firefox without
the late many 'cool' additions.
This experience is making me nostalgic of the times when I was using
For the information of everyone:
I would like to inform all those concerned that firefox-esr is causing
ASCII to freeze. Getting access to a terminal is almost impossible.
Yesterday, I had to power off the machine. I did not investigate why
the issue is happening as the system became extremely
I use fsarchiver. The backup is a single very large file that can be
restored using the same program. You can even restore a partition to a
larger one. Do not backup mounted partitions.
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Aitor wrote: "We must think on the devuan project, we hate narcissism :)"
Narcissism is a delusion; there is nothing to like about it. During
youth it prevents sufferers from identifying their weaknesses lowering
their chances of success.
I am using my version not to stroke my ego; that need to
Firefox ESR is freezing XFCE on ASCII. Getting to Ctrl+Alt+F1 takes
many seconds and logging in a terminal also takes very long. I am
reluctantly posting this from within Chromium.
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Hi Aitor,
I, like many other Devuan users, hope that the last crises is over and
that it will never happen again. The purpose of replying to your
thread is to ask why you are rewriting the backend from the very
beginning. Needless to state, I am still using my version of
simple-netaid with its
Hi all,
I have a CLI based music player based on Raspberry Pi 3B+ with ASCII
installed. Is Beowulf stable enough to be used with a terminal, mpg123
and mplayer? There is no GUI installed. The major problem I am finding
with ASCII is not having my Pi DAC PRO recognised notwithstanding all
kernel
The ad-blocking Firefox extensions uBlock Origin, NoScript and the
page zooming extension Zoom Page WE no longer work.
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Today, I updated my nephew's computer with Devuan ASCII installed. The
update was successful without issues.
I think, it is only deserved for all those who work hard to host and
set up Devuan mirror servers to be thanked.
Thanks a lot.
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As a Devuan user I suggest the Devuan Administrative Team to consider
the thinking of a detailed contingency plan in case of a crises that
should include how to deal with internal conflicts and what to do when
important servers fail. I would also suggest setting up emergency
supplimentary servers
Making it a Debian package should be easy. Use dh_make to create a
'debian' subdirectory with the necessary Debian control files. Then,
when that is ready build the debian packages using 'gbp buildpackage'.
Both commands should be run in the source's top directory.
Following the last crises in the Administration of Devuan, as a user
of Devuan who appreciates init freedom, I am worried. Is the crises
over or not? What about the void created by katolaZ?
The fact that there are business entities who want init freedom is
something of a blessing.
I congratulate
It was surprising to me to read what Jaromil wrote in one of his
replies regarding the April Fools prank. In short, the statement was
that Devuan takes no responsibility whatever the outcome of its use.
Any invester will definitely make a lot of effort to avoid such a
possibility that can ruin
Would like to read news about the conference. Did it make a difference
in the world of Linux or not? Was the message about the advantages of
modularity understood/accepted? What about init choice freedom?
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On 01/04/2019, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> On 01-04-19 09:03, KatolaZ wrote:
>> Dear D1rs,
>>
>> we have analysed in depth the attack from the "Green Hat Hackers" that
>> compromised the Devuan infrastructure in the last hours, and we
>> concluded that you all are:
>>
>>*
Searching for installed kernel modules using locate I found the actual
modules for the DAC are installed. However, using modprobe did not
result in the modules being loaded. Modprobe complained with the
error:
modprobe: FATAL: module name not found in directory /lib/modules/4.16.12-v8+
After
I have a raspberry Pi with a Pi DAC Pro sound for which there is no
driver installed. Searching online takes me to readily prepared
operating system images that I do not want to use as I am using
Devuan. Does anyone know what I should do to be able to use the Pi DAC
Pro sound card under Devuan?
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Hi Everyone,
My version of simple-netaid-backend has been debugged to connect when
there is only one active wifi hotspot. It was previously failing to
connect because there was an error in a while loop which prevented
iteration from taking place when there was only one active wifi
hotspot.
Whether systemd is a tragedy or not, I will not say, but whenever I
tried it, I was always greeted with OS crashes. At first, I tried to
use it for a media player but, needless to state, the OS crashed for
no reason. With an SD card as the storage medium this becomes a
nuisance as one has to take
On 02/01/2019, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2019-01-01 21:37, Steve Litt wrote:
>> The degree of attentiveness we now
>> demand in our workplaces has been a positive trait for only a
>> couple centuries, and genetics hasn't caught up. So blame is
>> counterproductive.
>>
>
> I beg
So, this is yet another limited browser that many modern web-sites
find repulsive to connect to. It is clear the problem is not the
browsers themselves, but economical and political. It is economical,
because a browser that is heavily biased towards privacy is
detrimental to advertising,
Good, provided an installer is obedient to do what is commanded.
What happens when an installer obstinately insists on installing LVM,
(ilLogical Volume Management), as it happened to me several times when
I was still using Debian, and also when I started to use Devuan? I was
left with no choice
On 05/12/2018, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 December 2018 at 17:41:22, Edward Bartolo wrote:
>
>> Further Optimization:
>>
>> Is it possible to configure Devuan on Raspberry Pi 3B+, so that,
>> bash_history, settings pertaining to bash, and other user
>
Further Optimization:
Is it possible to configure Devuan on Raspberry Pi 3B+, so that,
bash_history, settings pertaining to bash, and other user
configuration files from being updated every time such an application
is used?
If there is some other things I am not aware of, please inform me.
On a similar worrying note, my country's government has hired a
private company to provide equipment to read and count votes. It is
still at trial stage but the opposition is already complaining the
software used is giving different results for the same set of votes in
different circumstances.
Nevermind, I found that prepending a symlink with a 'K' in /etc/rcN.d
is to disable that script.
Thanks everyone, especially Dr Klepp.
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If you cannot make abstructions about details you do not understand
Running "update-rc.d rsyslog disable 2" resulted in error messages
like the following:
ERROR MESSAGE:
insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) A of script 'rsyslog'
overrides LSB defaults B
There were four lines with similar text but with A and B as follows:
a) A = (3 4 5); B = (2 3 4 5)
b) A
On 02/12/2018, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
[...]
>
> Do not use swap.
> Use ramfs for /tmp and /var/tmp.
> Turn off logging.
> Mount / readonly.
> Use "noatime" mountoption.
>
How can I use ramfs for /tmp and /var/tmp?
And, also turn off logging?
Can anyone post a sample /etc/fstab as a hint as
Hi everyone.
Recently I have been using a Raspberry Pi 3B, obviously powered with
Devuan, to run as music player. Restarting it yesterday, I was
dismayed to discover it would not boot properly anymore, with long
lists of errors complaining about not being able to write to the SD
CARD. The latter
KatolaZ wrote: "Personal insults are not tolerated here."
Really?! But YOU CAN INSULT as this mailing list unequivocally proves.
The hypocracy is beyond belief.
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KatoloZ wrote: "We have put together a solution that consists into
choosing if you want merged-usr at install time. It's available in the
current unstable installer:"
Ooooh, not even Einstein could have arrived at that! Very brainy,
extremely smart!
So, respondents essentially are writing what I wrote, but in more
grandiose writing styles. Instead of appealing to the general and
writing in abstruct ways, they choose to write giving endless concrete
describtions. Well, Pedagogy, the science of teaching methods,
strongly insists on using
On 03/11/2018, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 10:28:44AM +0100, aitor wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> libsystemd-dev is present in the packaging of sane-backends in both
>> jessie
>> and ascii. As far as i know, the systemd utility in sane is useful only
>> in
>> the case of network printers.
On 02/11/2018, aitor wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> On 11/02/2018 09:17 AM, aitor wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm trying to build simple-netaid-gtk on ascii and i'm getting the
>> following error:
>>
>> /usr/include/glibmm-2.4/glibmm/threads.h:661:29: error: cannot convert
>> ‘GPrivate’ {aka ‘_GPrivate’}
On 24/10/2018, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 08:38:59AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
>> This smells bad, really bad, I dare say, like a putrifying animal. Is
>> the difficulty to keep up with startup scripts so great that Devuan
>> will have to bow its head to usi
This smells bad, really bad, I dare say, like a putrifying animal. Is
the difficulty to keep up with startup scripts so great that Devuan
will have to bow its head to using a single supported init? This
reminds me of systemd. The excuse was, that Debian did not have enough
man-power to keep using
Why doesn't Devuan edit sysvinit to use systemd's unit files instead
of scripts? That would bypass the entire problem. Those who want to
stick to scripts can always direct sysvinit to use scripts instead. An
edit/patch would aim to make sysvinit recognise unit files and run
scripts when instructed
Arguing about the subjectivity inherent in interpretation, to defend
the use of words, that are either too strong, or plainly meant to
insult making manipulation of victims easier to achieve. This is
dishonesty of the highest rank. So, someone has the ability to plan,
write and debug software that
It worked, and it worked great! But, I will be sincere, I de-pulsed
the installation by removing all pulseaudio components with which the
sound was marred with clicking sounds.
Thanks to all those who willingly donated some of their time to reply,
and also, thanks to the Devuaneers who made the
lsblk listed two devices. Therefore, I was wrong. I was expecting to
have the boot Micro SD Card detected as sda and the USB stick as sdb!
Nevertheless, this is not the end of my troubles trying to make my Pi
3B+ see reason and play sound files. Alsamixer is only showing one
control, PCM. I am
Quote:
"The only existent README file for now was written by Edward Bartolo,
and it-s focused to the previous version of simple-netaid, written in
C and freepascal.
So, it's a bit obsolete. However, the new version of simple-netaid
also uses ifupdown, but there is no CLI version fo
Hi, I installed Devuan ASCII on a Raspberry Pi 3B+. USB sticks are not
recognized no matter how old they are. It also had pulseaudio and the
pulseaudio mixer installed although I removed those. USB sticks were
also not recognized with Raspbian installed.
Please note, I am only after having a
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I am trying to make a headless server with a Raspberry Pi 3. The
purpose of the server is to be used as an audio file player. Can this
be done with Devuanised Raspberry Pi images? With the VolumeIO OS the
Pi cannot connect to the network irrespective of using an ethernet
wired connection or a
On 07/09/2018, aitor_czr wrote:
>
> El 07/09/18 a las 12:00, Edward Bartolo escribió:
>> Aitor wrote:
>> "I spent a lot of time downgrading the frontend from Gtk3 to Gtk2,
>> because of the general preference in favor of this second one. The
>> packages for j
Aitor wrote:
"I spent a lot of time downgrading the frontend from Gtk3 to Gtk2,
because of the general preference in favor of this second one. The
packages for jessie will be available in a couple of days."
Thank you for caring about users.
edbarx
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Installing the clearlooks-phenix-darkpurpy-theme solved the issue.
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From some time ago, XFCE 4 terminal 0.8.3 does NOT separate its main
menus. This is in XFCE 4 under ASCII. The menu bar appears like a
sentence without spaces. This also happens in 'Preferences' with tab
captions forming literally one long word.
More information:
The attached amplifier circuit is the result of many hours of study
and development. It is an audio amplifier that can deliver a
continuous power of 250W at 8 Ohms or 450W at 4 Ohms. The resultant
distortion figure is around 0.1% for the higher power and about 0
.09% for the lower power.
I
While browsing LTSpice's directory structure, I discovered LTSpice's
executable is a 64 bit Windows executable. Knowing, wine64 could be
installed and run without issues on ASCII, I copied the entire
directory tree to a disk and copied it to Devuan where wine64 expects
Windows programs to be
Steve Litt wrote:
--
You know, Ed, you're a nice guy, but your lack of emotional control
makes you a pain in the ass on the mailing list. So for the second
time, I set procmail to send messages I receive from you to /dev/null.
--
And add also, it is very convenient for
Maybe, apt-cache depends can shed some light. It seems wine32 depends
on libwine:i386 and the latter breaks wine32.
Here is the output:
$ apt-cache depends libwine:i386
libwine:i386
Depends: libc6:i386
Depends: libfontconfig1:i386
Depends: libfreetype6:i386
Depends: libncurses5:i386
Jaromil wrote:
-
> 1. dpkg --print-architechture
> 2. dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
> 3. list of enabled repositories (+ architechture)
> 4. dpkg -l | grep wine
I'm sorry to see that Ed moved on to RANT instead of providing basic
information to those of use who were patiently
[RANT; if you hate rants, don't read it]
Linux is getting exaspirating... It is not definitely the Linux I knew
when I started using it back in 2006-2007. Like Windows, Linux is now
allowing advertising to pass through, with the disadvantage of a
nightmare whenever a package fails to install.
I
On 17/08/2018, Evilham wrote:
[...]
>
> Snippet from a previous email after fixing command typos, can you post
> all this?
>
> 1. dpkg --print-architechture
> 2. dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
> 3. list of enabled repositories (+ architechture)
> 4. dpkg -l | grep wine
>
This is the output.
On 13/08/2018, KatolaZ wrote:
[...]
>
> Random guess: which repo are you using? If you are still using
> packages.devuan.org or *.mirror.devuan.org, then you should switch to
> deb.devuan.org, since we know of existing glitches with ascii in the
> original amprolla.
>
I carefully edited my
On 13/08/2018, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
[...]
>
> I suspect your system is not multiarch atm. You can add i386 with the
> command
>
> dpkg --add-architecture i386
>
I have already added the i386 architecture. This is what dpkg tells me:
dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
i386
On 13/08/2018, Evilham wrote:
08.2018 um 14:30 schrieb Edward Bartolo:
>> apt-get laments:
[...]
>> Can I continue using Devuan ASCII and have wine32?
>
> None of that is Devuan-specific. Have you read this?
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/Wine
> --
> Evilham
>
OK,
apt-get laments:
# apt-get install wine32
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required
"Propoganda"? Why not use the more appropriate word, "marketing"? This
kind of mail threads should be marked as SPAM or TRASH. Devuan needs
to prove itself to be a viable alternative that works, and that lets
computer admins/users configure their systems as they need, without
the requirement of
Aitor, aitor whose netaid is going to be preferred? What did you do to
the 'infamous' SUID backend? Did you add functions to it? Have you
completely revamped it with completely new code and a different
algorithms?
I say 'Sorry' to Devuan for being absent almost regularly but at the
moment I am
In the event debootstrap fails, a list of the essential packages would
help all those who, in the most extreme case of installation failures,
want to manually extract them to an empty partition and do the
packages' configuration manually. As far as I remember, Debian
requires essential packages to
The way some people 'argue' makes every argument futile.
:(
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I do not use debootstrap for educational purposes but to bypass
installer misbehaviour.For instance, I remember using it when the
installer obstinately wanted to force me to use LVM (Logical Volume
Management). This happened both under Debian and Devuan. On other
occasions, the installer came to a
The circuit I sent you is not finished yet. Yesterday, I connected it
to the output stage to test how it behaves. At first, it oscillated at
a frequency of 660kHz. I realised this because the heatsink started
getting steadily hotter. To decouple high ultrasonic frequencies I
used a decoupling
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