Re: [DNG] article about devuan
On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 01:14:10PM +0200, tito via Dng wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jul 2022 06:07:53 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Fri, 2022-07-29 at 14:27 +0200, tito via Dng wrote: > > > https://linuxiac.com/best-systemd-free-linux-distributions/ > > > > > > I think the author knows nothing about devuan and spreads FUD > > > > > > > I thought most of the Devuan review was accurate and complimentary. > > However, I've > > never thought of Devuan as "retro" or particularly inconvenient for newbies. > > > > SteveT > > Hi, > > FUD:"And now we come to the last Linux distro on our list, where things get > extreme. > This is because we’re not just discussing another systemd-free Linux > distribution, > but one on a mission against systemd. But first, let me explain what this is > all about." > ... +1 I, however, really don't know if the author is malicious or simply ignorant; these days there's a hord of people that think Debian's difficult. I don't know why. Best, -- Fernando M. Maresca - - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Where would exim have put the emails?
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 07:49:32PM +1030, dva...@internode.on.net wrote: > A "locate exim | more" does not elicit anything resembling a mail > destination. If exim is configured for local delivery (see /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf and read the corresponding man page for /usr/sbin/update-exim4.conf) your mail probably is in /var/mail/ Regards, Fer -- Fernando M. Maresca ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Ian Murdoch
On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 02:10:49AM +, Bruce Perens wrote: > If you absolutely have to discuss this, contact me privately. Let's keep it > off > the list. Bruce, I trully appreciate your reservation regarding Ian's personal life. I think he is entitled to our most deep respectful treatment. Thank you. -- Fernando M. Maresca ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] sudo or su?
On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 11:08:47AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > My solution has always been to keep users and root *separate*, > avoiding sudo altogether, and to ask myself to wear an appropriate > "magic-shiny-hat-with-green-glitters-and-silver-triangle-on-top" (that > I keep on my desk) whenever a part of myself has to become root and > perform a configuration task. I know that whenever I am wearing the > "magic-shiny-hat-with-green-glitters-and-silver-triangle-on-top" I > have to put extra care on whatever I do, since a mistake could cause > the regular users of my system (including the other part of myself) to > suffer unnecessary pain and disruption. > > No automagic tool can save you from your own stupidity. You need a > system administrator to manage your linux box, and investing a bit of > time in training a part of yourself for that task, and 2$ in buying a > "magic-shiny-hat-with-green-glitters-and-silver-triangle-on-top" is > really worth the effort, and the price :) very +1 and keep in mind: real men do everything as root and don't make backups :) I think sudo main advantage is to grant certain administrative privileges to junior sysadmin or regular users, without to reveal the root password. -- Fernando M. Maresca ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] nfs mounts in fstab
On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 01:55:15PM -0400, Steven W. Scott wrote: > It sort of reminded me of Ubuntu, where networking issn't activated until > desktop login time. Once I added the adapters to interfaces and set up the > wpa_supplicant definitions the fstab mount was successful. Most bothersome > thing was I couldn't find any messages/logs which indicated the nature of the > failed mount, maybe because it wasn't attempted at all since no network was > available? take a look at /etc/network/nfsmounts. Best, Fer ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Open Letter To Linas Vepstas
so +1. Thanks. On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 04:07:33PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > While his rant is about a year old, I wonder if things have improved for > him? > > When he discusses GNOME Shell, etc., perhaps what he doesn't realize is > that many of those developers may not be eating their own dog food as it > were. For how long haven't we been reading about and watching various > videos from FOSS conferences only to realize they're often using the most > proprietary hardware and software in the world today, AND DAMNED PROUD > OF IT. It made me sick read yet another developer (sometimes even a > Debian Developer at that) wax on and on about the stuff from that > particular company. > > They're writing code and simply throwing it over the wall to us the > masses these days. It seems to me the Free Desktop.org projects are no > longer led by passionate community developers seeking to build a stable > and usable Free desktop. Nope, they're simply writing code to mimic > their favorite Free Software hostile system but without the integration > and testing necessary for it to actually work as they're told it should. > Well, they're not using what they write on a daily basis so the reported > bugs are easily ignored. > > It's frustrating. > > Until the projects are of, by, and for the community, I don't see the > prognosis improving. It is my hope that Devuan will sustain enough of a > community so that some of the things we had up until a few years ago can > be recovered and retained. I, for one, am not giving in or giving up! > > - Nate > > -- > > "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all > possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." > > Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us > _______ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- Fernando M. Maresca - - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Need help to add/delete strings to/from a treeview.
Hi, I do not exactly know about freepascal details, but inside a gtk
listview model, there has to be something like an array or equivalent
object that represents the row, so you can have values for every column
in the listview model.
So I think that should be a constructor for such an object, something
like ItemRow or ListViewRow or something like that.
Or yo should be able to pass an array to listview.Items.Add().
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Fer
On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 07:41:21PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am using a GtkTreeView widget to use a listview. I need to
> add/delete strings to/from the tree view but have not figured out how
> this supposedly simple operation can be done.
>
> In Lazarus Object Pascal, the above is as simple as it can be:
>
> listview.Items.Add('the string I need to add');
>
> And:
>
> if listview.items.count > 0
> then listview.Items.Delete(0); // if I want to delete the first string
>
> Edward
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Re: [DNG] Bad UEFI: was Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI
On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 10:07:17AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Back in the BIOS/MBR days, we had a very thin, very tiny interface to > the pre-boot stuff. About the only way you could mess it up was to blow > a bios upgrade, so you were always *very* careful during that process. > But in every other respect with BIOS/MBR, nothing you could do in > software could damage your hardware. > > BIOS/MBR had a very thin interface. > > Now comes UEFI, with this huge interface, to its pre-boot firmware and > non-volatile RAM, intended to be accessed by run of the mill > application programs and even commands typed in at the command prompt. > How is this exposure of many different "EFI variables" to every > possible software on the system different from systemd's spaghetti web > of dependencies? > > Answer: It's not. It's one more case of abdication of modularity. +1 -- Fernando M. Maresca - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cel: 221 15 545 8196 Tel: 221 450 5378 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] PAM usage (Was: Giving Devuan sans-initramfs capabilities)
On Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 11:34:56PM +0100, Teodoro Santoni wrote: > Good evening, > > 2016-01-04 21:43 GMT+01:00, Rainer Weikusat <rainerweiku...@virginmedia.com>: > > k...@aspodata.se writes: > >> chaosesquet...@cock.li: > >>> I don't understand the desire to change it at all. > >> > >> And neither do I. > >> Except someone talked about ssl libs. > > > > Someone wrote about some PAM module which would require OpenSSL. No such > > PAM module currently exists on my system and I don't quite understand > > why 'PAM modules' would be needed for booting a system, anyway. > > Nothing is impossible and someone may wish to integrate his/her wordpress' > login > credentials with the computer(s) he/she manage. It's impossible to authenticate against an LDAP server without PAM afaik. Perhaps nss can do in certain environments, but I think not always. Regards, -- Fernando M. Maresca - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cel: 221 15 545 8196 Tel: 221 450 5378 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote emails?
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 08:46:19PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > What email client do you suggest me to use so that I can properly > quote previous replies? I use gmail's classic webmail interface as my > computer lags with the newer webmail interfaces. I tried claws-mail > without success: the gmail server refused to connect. I also do not > wish to use a paid email service only to enable myself to use an email > client. mutt. -- Fernando M. Maresca - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cel: 221 15 545 8196 Tel: 221 450 5378 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:12:02PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > From the day I arrived in Debianland, around 1/1/2014, Debian seemed to > me to be, in the words of Lennart Poettering, "quite a sick place to be > in.". Before I'd heard about systemd, I'd already /dev/nulled about 8 > Debianistas because of their uniform nasty response to everything. Then > the civil war began. > > Perhaps Debian was destined to be replaced anyway, systemd or no > systemd. I'm using Debian since '99 and although not involved as developer, ''ve been following -devel and -users and a couple more list pretty close all these years (still am). Since sometime circa 2010 or so the Debian developer community has been more and more dominated by people with a strong sense of property over the project and a marked disregard for others contributors. There is an atmosphere of aggressiveness and do-it-my-way-or-get-out-of-my-lawn, supposedly to increase Debian quality. However, in those years Debian became more bloated, slow, complicated and runs on less hardware than say, squeeze. It's sad that The Universal Operating System is less universal release after release. Very sad. Iain Learmonth is a sociopath, but is very active and had invested many hours into making himself a prominent DD; his aiming high in the project and will probably be successful. Debian is going to be another Fedora in a couple of releases with these people leading it. Best regards. -- Fernando M. Maresca - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cel: 221 15 545 8196 Tel: 221 450 5378 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 04:57:19PM +0300, Mitt Green wrote: > I wonder how many people that use Debian for quite long time (since 90s or > the beginning of this millennium) really like systemd, GNOME3 > and all these controversial things. I haven't met any. And even more, > most "greybeards" that I've seen oppose it. Seems like they don't have > a right to vote. I didn't use any of those ever. I was using WindowMaker, then fluxbox/openbox, now awesome wm. I don't care for eye candy. > > Debian is Fedora already, assuming Red Hat is taking control > of the whole system in a known way. Red Hat is 2010s Novell. I know, and that's the reason I did not mentioned Red Hat. I think that the current Debian DD leaders resigned the right and the privilege to create a real Universal OS to follow the decision made in another place. Just like Fedora maintainers do. > > By the way, each time Fedora comes, I try LiveCD with it, GNOME3, Workstation > as they call it. Each time it fails, freezing in either boot stage, while > copying > data, while doing usual tasks with GUI. Their package management is slow, > adding repositories is just painful. And finding stuff in GNOME3 is > ridiculous. Gnome is a monstrosity. xfce is enough even for my uncle. Regards -- Fernando M. Maresca - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cel: 221 15 545 8196 Tel: 221 450 5378 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Detailed technical treatise of systemd
On Fri, Nov 06, 2015 at 09:02:53PM +0200, Aldemir Akpinar wrote: > I rarely boot my servers maybe one or two servers in week or so, and if your > running a server grade hardware, it takes forever to boot. My laptop, I just > get it to sleep. Indeed, production servers here are mostly IBM System X; a 3650 needs some 2-4 minutes just to do the BIOS check. The SAS controller takes another couple minutes to load firmware and self-check. Whenever +180 days in any ext4 fs, fsck will run on it. What's the importance of ten seconds boot up in linux? Regards, -- Fernando M. Maresca - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cel: 221 15 545 8196 Tel: 221 450 5378 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Multi-seat on Devuan, do we actually need that useless curiosity?
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 03:49:32AM +0300, Vlad wrote: I think that the pretty useless feature which helped systemd into Debian in the first place was discussed some time ago. Better footprint, less power consumption. I rutinelly do two and three seat ws without any expensive usb hub: a us$5 usb hub can manage two pairs of keyboard and mouse, and most mb these days have 6 usb ports. lightdm and xfce4 play nice in these config. cheers, -- Fernando M. Maresca - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cel: 221 15 545 8196 Tel: 221 450 5378 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
