Curtis Maurand wrote:
> I think this is all great right up until you need a fixed address for
> something like a mail server or a web server.
That is no more of a problem with IPv6 as it is with IPv4 - if you have a “poor
quality” ISP that doesn’t do fixed addresses then you have a problem wit
Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote:
> I configure strict postfix rules that incoming mail should have a
> reverse DNS.
Ah, we’re talking two different checks. I too reject connections if there’s no
reverse DNS, but ideally that reverse DNS should forward resolve to a list (one
or more IPs) containin
declassed art via Dng wrote:
> I do have an unconfigured PTR for a couple of reasons, one of those is lack
> of static IP for now.
I figured out quite quickly that checking reverse DNS is a waste of time - too
many systems, even those run by professional network/server engineers, are just
bad
Mark Rousell wrote:
> As I see it there are only two USPs for a service like this:
>
> (1) It's accessible for anywhere you have Internet access and a computing
> device.
>
> (2) It is (I presume) backed up so you don't need to run your own backups...
> well, in theory. In practice that shoul
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I did a ls -l on syslog*
>
> april:~# ls -l /var/log/syslog*
> -rw-r- 1 root adm 734459 May 17 2013 /var/log/syslog
> -rw-r- 1 root adm 1197017 May 17 2013 /var/log/syslog.0
> -rw-r- 1 root adm 79876 May 13 2013 /var/log/syslog.1.gz
> -rw-r- 1 root ad
Andreas Messer wrote:
> Once we had a crash in
> simple limit switch device. As a result the high-rack robot pushed a
> pallet in 15m height out of the rack. Fortunately, it was just another
> robot which was destroyed (stood just below) - not a human being. Still
> a very expensive case for the
Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote:
>> Perhaps it's time for the relevant package to spit out some notice level
>> logging when it hits deprecated options ?
>
> I can't imagine the volume of information that would produce on system
> upgrades, even updates packs.
> Unreadable, if you ask me: Too muc
Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote:
> Documentation states, for both INET & INET6 families:
> address address
> Address (dotted quad/netmask) required
>
> netmask mask
> Netmask (dotted quad or number of bits) deprecated
>
> Are we really debating how to configure network addresses withou
Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>> So I made my /etc/network/interfaces look like the following, which
>> follows the guidelines of "man interfaces":
>>
>> ===
>> auto lo
>> iface lo inet loopback
>>
>> allow-hotplug eth0
>> iface eth0 inet static
>> address 192.168.0.1
k...@aspodata.se wrote:
>> npt only synchronizes only on machine starts.
>
> That is wrong, I guess you are thinking about initial sync.
>
> You can do initial syncronisation with e.g. ntpdate, but ntpd can do
> that also, but can take more time before it decides to jump the clock
> if it differ
Ludovic Bellière wrote:
> You could also explore alternatives to zoom, like the FOSS
> (jitsi)[https://jitsi.org/].
FWIW, of all the options I've used on my (rather old, 2005 model) Mac, Zoom has
the lowest load. Jitsi is considerably higher, and I have to manually turn down
the video to the
> On 27 Mar 2021, at 03:55, John Morris wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2021-03-26 at 15:46 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>>
>> I'd suggest nobody sign anything, and nobody respond to this email.
>>
>> If you believe that Stallman was removed, shunned and criticized
>> because of guilt by association, then it's
Rick Moen wrote:
>> That latter point means that you go to https://myfavouritewebsite.com
>> and no you don't get the portal page - you get a certificate warning.
>> Given that most people these days will have https URLs cached in their
>> browser, you have to manually and explicitly try and conn
g4sra wrote:
>> It is as simple as needing to connect to the server at different IPs (i.e.
>> the internal IP from inside, the external IP from outside), but using the
>> same URL ?
>
> In a nutshell, yes.
OK, then I'd use split horizon DNS - problem solved (but noting the comment
made abou
g4sra via Dng wrote:
>>> The meeting being hosted on the server needs to be simultaneously
>>> accessible as two different domains, internal.com and external.com.
>>> Anyone achieved this yet or know a better way ?
> Decided to use the external FQDN and implement BIND's response-policy' lying
>
> On 8 Mar 2021, at 14:08, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> Rick Moen said:
>
>> The above is a vexing problem for travelers w/laptops who prefer to
>> specify their own choice of nameserver and still use hotel/motel WiFi
>> (and wired ethernet, actually). Best case, you have to disable your
>> nameserve
terryc wrote:
> I need to sketch a plan of a land plot for an erection by a
> contractor. the 'erection' can be described as three to five rectangles
> with ramps between them. Ancillary data to be plotted/drawn is building
> sides, pathway and drive way. placement of shrubbery is optional. I'm
>
Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote:
> You're right that I didn't address the fact that queries to root
> servers don't all go to one server. My understanding of that wasn't
> firm when I was writing so I said 'upstream server'. But that would be
> a small hurdle to overcome if everyone started protecting
Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote:
> Of course using a local (or controlled by you) caching dns resolver
> ENHANCES privacy. That's not even a question and doesn't represent a
> real argument against the likelihood that, in the case of everyone
> running their own caching resolver, that second level nam
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
>> I doubt this could be ever implemented correctly as you have to check
>> every code path of every app you will armorize or as soon as your usage
>> diverges from what the distro gurus have envisioned your program
>> will stop working without even a warning.
>> Next th
Steve Litt wrote:
> The vast majority of documents I've read tell me that once you make the
> bridge, the hardware NIC must be robbed of its IP addresses. So that's
> what I did.
That is the correct way to do it - though from memory it does seem to still
work for host-LAN communications if you
tito via Dng wrote:
> I wonder why instead of predictable names they didn't choose
> prefix+mac_address at least for initial setup of names and leave it
> to user to name the interfaces they way he likes. This would have
> guaranteed (almost) unique persistent names and by using standard
> prefix
Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote:
> For the sake of completeness and y'all's convenience, here a link to the
> related info in the Debianwiki:
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkInterfaceNames
Did anyone else read that and think it could be summarised along the lines of :
"We thought X was badly b
Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote:
> Is it as simple as inviting anyone that wants to, to send their public
> key to this list? I'm not experienced in web of trust common/accepted
> practices but have been interested for some time.
No, it's not that simple !
Try this for starters : https://en.wikipedi
Stephane Ascoet via Dng wrote:
>> Of course, the 80's were better, and the 90's were even better than
>> that, but the 70's were no slouch when it comes to music. If you skip
>> disco.
>
> Hi, it's a joke? 70s are considered by lot of people to be the best decade in
> music, just some examples
Hendrik Boom wrote:
It didn't have to be this way. In 2020, better alternatives could
have been made. If I were the project manager, the first thing I'd
do is uncouple keyboard, mouse and video from each other. Why X has
anything to do with keyboard or mouse is beyond me.
>>
Didier Kryn wrote:
> I remember these Apollos. They were shining and ran some brand of
> Unix if I remember well. We had a few in my lab but I never got a chance
> to touch one.
I knew "just about zero" about Unix back then so can't comment on how they
compared with anything else. The OS wa
Didier Kryn wrote:
> Therefore I suspect the authors managed to launch several threads in order to
> save 0.01s of the boot time. Or to loose more because thread scheduling might
> well consume more than what parallelism saves.
In the general case, parallelism only saves wall clock time IFF yo
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I had to solve it by assigning new names to the interfaces (thus not eth0 or
> eth1) and modifying all the config files mentioning those interface names (I
> found them with grep) to use the new names instead.
Not for the OPs reason, but a long time ago I started to use "
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Know any domain registrars that don't mess with the user?
You could take a look at mythic-beasts.com or portfast.net
When I left my last place, I decided to move my domains away from them (as an
employee I got "cost price" domains and free hosting) - knowing that the peop
Simon Walter wrote:
> Other than a manual install, are there any alternatives? I am interested to
> hear how others are doing this.
I never got round to switching from using SSLMate - only $16/yr (equates to
around £10/yr for me) for a basic (domain.tld + www.domain.tld) cert, but
quickly get
Rick Moen wrote:
>> Regardless of the arguments for and against which have been done to
>> death for long enough, SPF did predictably break email in many ways -
>> some of which I used to use, and some which my clients used to use.
>
> Sounds like a problem local to you.
No, not in the least b
Rick Moen wrote:
> My response inevitably is that I really couldn't
> care less whether they like SPF or not. ...
May I respectfully pick you up on that one.
Regardless of the arguments for and against which have been done to death for
long enough, SPF did predictably break email in many ways
Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
>> I have no choice over the neighbours !
> Don't buy overly cheap connections...
Doesn't matter how much you pay - unless you get an entire net-block to
yourself then you have no control over the neighbours. Only the ISP has control
over the neighbours.
> An
terryc wrote:
>> You can also publish DKIM and SPF records so as to produce
>> DMARC-aligned authentication for any hosted domain. Users won't
>> notice any difference.
>
> Does anyone have any figures on how effective these methods are?
> It seems we get a new idea every few years and none mak
Ian Zimmerman wrote:
>> You mean, like in the web hosting days before hostname headers where
>> you needed a different IP address for each hosted domain name ? That's
>> very 20th century and not a luxury most of us have.
>
> FWIW, Linode (where my sole server is hosted) gives me a /64 IPv6 bloc
Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
>> IIRC the specific complaint wasn't that they checked for rDNS, but that they
>> matched it against the domain of the sender. That makes no sense at all, it
>> prevents running more than one domain on one mail server.
> Why would it? A configurable mail serv
Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote:
> I also end up rejecting a lot of spam because it lacks a reverse hostname
> (it's easily the largest category).
> So it's not just a few such as ntlworld and gmx that check this.
IIRC the specific complaint wasn't that they checked for rDNS, but that they
matche
Mark Rousell wrote:
>> But once you accept a
>> message with a success status after the DATA stage, you are obliged to
>> either really deliver it or else bounce it back. It is not acceptable to
>> send messages down a "black hole".
> This *should* not be acceptable (and it's very annoying if yo
Haines Brown wrote:
> I left the drive NTFS because I wanted easy access to the drive for folks
> (granschildren) who do not run Linux.
>
> Othersie I prefer ext4. When you say NTFS is slower, to you mean three times
> slower (which I am experiencing) or a bit slower?
In my experience, as al
marc...@welz.org.za wrote:
> Some people are going to say "not possible, the call is
> end-to-end encrypted". Actually no. Illustrative example: The
> intercept reported that zoom claimed end-to-end encryption,
> but instead had one shared key, and used ECB (a really poor
> way of using a cypher).
Steve Litt wrote:
>
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 08:28:12 +1000
> Ozi Traveller via Dng wrote:
>
>> Yes that is the reason for teams.
>
>
> What do you mean by "that"?
He'd be referring to my comment :
>>> That's fine if anyone you want to chat with also uses Teams.
Presumably he's switch
Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Unfortunately we have Office 365 at work.
As do we - but I do know that our infrastructure is all on-premises for
security reasons, and my employer is big enough to put the resources into
running it properly.
It's been a marvellous play by MS - cobbling together a f
Haines Brown wrote:
> I've been relying on zoom on a laptop runnding debian. But there's a
> problem with it and I want to install zoom on beowulf 3.
>
> But there's no zoom in the beowulf repository. Do I have to download
> debian's zoom .deb?
Or download direct from Zoom's website.
I reca
Keeping it on-list
Rod Rodolico wrote:
> Stupid question, but do you have a static MAC address assigned to your
> virtual? My dhcp server reads the MAC, then determines what IP to give
> it. Xen gives random MAC addresses if you do not assign one. Assuming
> KVM does it also.
>
> Xen has the b
Stephane Ascoet via Dng wrote:
>> I think I'll ask the same question over at the ISC DHCP list, we're a
>> friendly bunch over there, but it's more an OS question than a DHCP one.
>> Still, there's a range of experience, so someone else might have hit this
>> and know the answer.
> Hi, so, wi
aitor_czr wrote:
> Florian Zieboll wrote:
>>>
>> Although I am not doing IPv6 networking myself, I suppose searching the DNG
>> list's archive for the ifup boot delay issue might bring up relevant
>> information.
> Further discussion here:
>
> https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/search/20380101.0
I've got a VM running Devuan Beowulf that was upgraded from Debian Wheezy (via
Devuan Ascii). The problem I have is that it keeps getting different IP
addresses during boot, never the one the DHCP server is configured (reserved
lease) to give it. On tracing packets, I see that it's using a diffe
J. Fahrner via Dng wrote:
> I don't see why this parameter is so important. When I read the description,
> this is the delay for scanning usb devices after power up. But as you can see
> in the logs, the device is responding and telling its characteristics. Only
> mounting the filesystem fails
Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Standard_Base#Limitations_on_Debian
Ah, that helps. I was confusing LSB with FSH and LSB headers - not that I ever
followed such detail closely.
>> What's left in Debian are bits that are actually used by some programs.
>
While upgrading a system to Beowulf, I noticed this in the changelogs.
Is this one of those "it was fizzling out anyway so no big deal" things, or
another policy change by Debian ? Not really bothered, just curious.
> lsb (9.20150826) unstable; urgency=low
>
> This update drops all lsb-* compa
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> vpn easiest way: sshuttle
> otherwise just use ssh + vnc (on the mac)
Thanks - but not really what I'm looking for.
Well something I could do today (or at least, as soon as I pop round to put the
Pi in place) is to use SSH and tunnel a local port to the remote machi
It's been a while since I last did anything with VPNs on Linux, and I recall
there being 3 options, some of which were "less well supported" than others.
I'm looking to setup a site-site tunnel so I can remotely access stuff at mum's
(she's in isolation because of this Covid 19 stuff) and using
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 03:18:45PM +, aitor_czr wrote:
>>
>> $ ls --inode --directory "/"
>>
>> 2 /
>
> Is there anything I can do with an inode except check file identity within
> a filesystem?
You can use it as a search condition for find using '-inum n'
Other than
Dan Purgert wrote:
> It's certainly useful in a "campus" environment, where you're quite
> likely at a different computer all the time (i.e. grabbing whatever is
> free in the computer lab to print your final paper).
Isn't the answer there to mount your home dir off it's server on whatever
mach
tekHedd wrote:
> Surely it is time to boil down the dbus/polkit requirements and and start
> over. Preferably with sane limitations on scope and configuration mechanisms.
> I mean, I'm just thinking out loud here something that I've been thinking for
> about 6 months.
I applaud your thinking,
Stefan Krusche wrote:
> What is the difference between "below /usr/local"
> and "in /usr/local" for directory "/usr/local/something"?! (as referred
> to in this section of the debian policy.)
AIUI, "in" means those items that are directly within the directory, while
"below" means those items wi
Steve Litt wrote:
> ... we could at least
> change the munge string from:
>
> Firstname Lastname via Dng
>
> to:
>
> GOES TO DNG (IRT Firstname Lastname)
>
> So when you do "return to sender" and it crazily puts
> dng@lists.dyne.org in the To field, at least that To field won't be
> disguis
marc wrote:
>
> I wonder if writing 0xff instead of 0x00 is kinder to flash
> media. In particular, if the controller is dumb/smart enough
> to only erase, not write...
I would imagine there's a command you can send to the card which tells it to
bulk-erase itself. Function in one of the disk
>>> Hm, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1M count=1
>>
>> Yes, that will clear it out. But what file system is customarily on
>a new
>> 16G microsd card? And does that fs really need everything cleared
>out?
>
>No, that will not wipe the GPT or it's backup.
Ah, but zero the whole disk and it wil
Jim Jackson wrote:
> (*) These pi's are a lot more powerfull than the Sun Sparc servers we had
> NFS serving user data to 60+ workstations back in the 00's :-)
Ah yes, to think that many of us routinely carry around in our pockets more
storage, RAM, and CPU capacity than we could have dreamed
Didier Kryn wrote:
> Therefore it means IBM doesn't care anymore in PowerPc arch ... That's what I
> fear, actually.
I don't think it means that. It's clear that PowerPC is stuck as a niche
architecture. The only way out of that is to get lots of people using it - and
making it freely availab
Chris Richmond wrote:
> Aug 4 18:33:15 teton dhclient[3755]: Listening on LPF/eth1/00:1c:c0:e1:d0:ff
> Aug 4 18:33:15 teton dhclient[3755]: Sending on LPF/eth1/00:1c:c0:e1:d0:ff
> Aug 4 18:33:15 teton dhclient[3755]: Sending on Socket/fallback
> Aug 4 18:33:15 teton dhclient[3755]: DHCPDI
Miles Fidelman wrote:
> ... then see which drive's lights flash a lot (if the drive has a light).
Ah yes, those were the days .
I can only assume that they were dropped to save money - and it's really
annoying when trying to do things like this (figure out which drive is which).
I've noted tha
Haines Brown wrote:
> I tried the chroot method, but with little luck.
...
># chroot /sysroot
>
># grub-install /dev/sdb
>bash grub-install: command not found
>
># ls -la /usr/sbin | grep grub-install
>-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 102046 Oct 28 2018 grub-insta
Steve Litt wrote:
> Simon Hobson wrote:
>> 1) use grub rescue cd (which you can put on a USB stick). Then fairly
>> easy to sort out by picking the right menu options.
>
> Do you mean:
>
> * Super Grub2 Disk (https://sourceforge.net/projects/supergrub2/)
I see two other ways to make this easy, both of which have worked for me in the
past :
1) use grub rescue cd (which you can put on a USB stick). Then fairly easy to
sort out by picking the right menu options.
2) use these incantations, lifted from a post elsewhere :
mkdir /sysroot
mount /dev/
I've been lurking and resisting from posting, largely because ... I'm the last
person to be telling people how to communicate in a friendly manner. I'm
autistic, and one of the traits I get from that is the tendency to completely
miss the subtleties of interpersonal communications, and to speak
KatolaZ wrote:
> I joined this project much before it was called Devuan, and I have
> always considered it a battle worth to be fought, day after day. I
> promised myself that I would have continued contributing to Devuan
> until the day we would have started talking corporate bullshit, or
> stop
chillfan wrote:
> Katolaz is working very hard to ensure we have releases, but I didn't realise
> he was doing all this even.
I didn't either.
So another +1 for Katolaz and all the work he's doing. And everyone else of
course, but I think it's a bit unfair for people to be calling for heads on
Rick Moen wrote:
>
> Quoting etech3 (ete...@e-tech-systems.com):
>
>> My advice to you is like the Marines motto: Lead, follow or get the
>> hell out of the way.
>
>
>
> That might be the motto of _some_ group of marines, but FWIW actual
> service mottos are:
I suspect that he wasn't meaning
Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> Hard to believe I listened to the same talk Corbet
>> is describing. What I heard was a propaganda piece,
>> finding reasons to sell the systemd approach
>> to BSD conference attendees.
>
> Not really. He points out there were good reasons to want a new init,
> that
Massimo Coppola wrote:
> But I guess there's no need either to list all technical systemd issues here,
> or accept the unsound logic that unkind developers are the only reason of
> systemd criticism.
With all the hot air, I suspect that many people have lost sight of the
distinction between a
Simon Walter wrote:
> Yes, wireless LAN works from all my other computers. The Internet is
> accessible from them. I have a router that does the PPPOE and DHCP and
> DNS and NTP and a bunch of other things (dd-wrt).
>
> I can connect to the wireless LAN via NetworkManager. I am asked for a
> pas
Simon Walter wrote:
> Maybe there is some kind of conflict with another package. I have no DNS
> resolution. I do not have the full dnsmasq package installed - just the
> dnsmasq-base.
I think you need to take a step back and diagnose this logically. You need to
start with the basics, and wor
Rick Moen wrote:
> Back in the day, I gave out /etc/aliases entries to friends that
> leveraged the 'mafia' theme of my linuxmafia.com domain,
In our case it was simple alias entries ina database queried by Postfix - but
same effect and same problem.
> SRS (sender rewriting scheme) was SPF cr
Rick Moen wrote:
> Simon, I appreciate your pitching in to attempt to answer this question.
> A few necessary corrections, though:
Correction noted. However, in my defence my issues (which I no longer have to
deal with) were with mail forwarding in servers rather than mailing lists (IIRC
our m
Michael wrote:
>> Argh. Sending to the list this time.
>>
>> Please don't set "Reply-to" on list emails.
>>
>> Antony.
>
> I’m pretty sure the individuals aren’t doing it explicitly. This list just
> doesn’t seem to create, or override really, the headers quite right. Some
> messages here
Rick Moen wrote:
>> In part, Linux adoption is held back by its perceived difficulty
>
> Just a brief comment about this in passing, as this is an antique debate
> point ages ago stomped into the ground on comp.os.*.advocacy and other
> places: An operating system one must install (not pre
Rick Moen wrote:
>> I agree. The more GNU/Linux blows off prospective users by making them
>> jump through hoops, the more Linux becomes a niche. The nichier Linux
>> becomes, the more the hardware manufacturers ignore it. Let GNU/Linux
>> get up to 25% on the desktop, and the manufacturers will
g4sra wrote:
>> How is the Linux server going to authenticate users, via /etc/passwd or
>> other ?
>>
>> A lot depends on this, also the number of users will have a factor as
>> well.
> Which network authentication method would you suggest ?
I think what Roland was getting at here is the numbe
Rick Moen wrote:
> I heartily second your thanks to the mailing list administration team.
+1
Having run mail & list servers I've seen the problems caused by the big outfits
who are happy to just declare "oh that's no longer valid - we don't care about
breaking it". And I reckon I managed a bet
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Hm ... on devuan mailinglist asking for trainingroom setup for 600 active
> user? I don't think server nor clients are M$-based, but I could be wrong
> here :-)
Windoze isn't the only GUI desktop around ;-)
___
Dng mailin
Bruce Ferrell wrote:
> I've found that AD is VERY sensitive to time differences, even in a pure
> windows environment. How Windows admins tolerate it I have yet to figure out.
AIUI the DEFAULT in a Windoze network is that all the Domain Controllers are
also time servers (not NTP, MS's own cre
g4sra wrote:
> To clarify some points raised.
>
> 1) Approx 200 trainees each year, the full course is three years long (but
> class size will be 30 maximum at any one session). By year 3... 600 Users.
> After year 3 the trainees details may be purged and resources reclaimed so
> the server w
Rowland Penny wrote:
> If you could set up such a scenario, then yes, your way could be used,
> but there was a mention of a server. If you have a server, you usually
> get files saved and read, so how do you differentiate between user
> 'fred' from computer18 and 'fred' from computer23 ?
I did
Rowland Penny wrote:
>> Indeed, but this scenario is for a fixed setup where the users (28 of
>> them) are setup once and then there is no further user maintenance
>> going forward. In such a scenario, there's little point in going for
>> the complexity of setting up AD - as you say, a one-off se
Rowland Penny wrote:
>> I think what Roland was getting at here is the number of users and
>> how they are dealt with makes a huge difference.
>>
>> At one extreme, you have 28 seats, each one of them has a user such
>> as "user1", and you can simply use /etc/passwd & /etc/shadow to
>> manage th
g4sra wrote:
>> How is the Linux server going to authenticate users, via /etc/passwd or
>> other ?
>>
>> A lot depends on this, also the number of users will have a factor as
>> well.
> Which network authentication method would you suggest ?
I think what Roland was getting at here is the numbe
Steve Litt wrote:
>>
>> Do not run cables across the floor (taped down or otherwise), this
>> would be a trip hazard.
>
> What other alternative is there for a temporary installation?
Hung from the ceiling ? How practical that is depends on ceiling height,
construction (suspended ceilings giv
Adam Borowski wrote:
>> Walking around Glasgow, you might find
>> the brogue bewildering, but in Amsterdam? Never.
>
> There are worse cases. There's a place called "London", where a sign says
> "Sloane Square" yet the station announcement (by a person paid to have clear
> diction) says "Ten S
goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> So . . . if the choice to avoid the merge is only available with
> debian-installer what does that mean for the live isos? Will they be
> configured with or without the merge as default?
Does it make any difference at all on a live ISO ? If it's setup merged, then
Alessandro Selli wrote:
> If Devuan is going to have a brilliant future it is going to disenfranchise
> itself from Debian. Being forever a Debian without systemd will keep it in
> the backseat, vulnerable to all the odd decisions and arguable development
> directions that Devuan/FD are going
Daniel Taylor wrote:
> It's scary how unreliable our systems used to be compared to now.
Were they ? Or did they just have different fragilities ?
Example:
There's the discussion here about having essential tools available without
having all filesystems mounted. Go back to the times under discu
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> (1) Is initramfs so weird that only one or two people in the world can make
> one?
**AT THE MOMENT** no it isn't. AIUI (and I stand to be corrected) it's simply a
CPIO archive that's been (optionally) compressed. So it can be uncompressed,
extracted, modified, and rebuil
terryc wrote:
> The problem I'm hitting is the format of woa.com.au/192.168.0.0 zone
> files and despite carefully deriving ones from examples in the Debian
> wiki I'm getting conflicting error listing. Frustrating.
What sort of problems are you getting ? Some of us here have a bit of
experienc
Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> ..well, that's still 256 possible runlevel names. ;o)
TBH, I don't think there's all that much scope for **usefully** using lots of
runlevels.
To start with, (near enough) every package comes with a control script for rc
to use - and which contains comments to signal to
Steve Litt wrote:
> What I said was that if you like sysvinit, use it, but for gosh sakes
> don't take the time and energy to modify it or update it or give it
> systemd features.
+1
Old does not equal broken. Perhaps the reason sysvinit hasn't seen much
maintenance for a while is that it just
Steve Litt wrote:
> Stop the madness!
+1, many times over !
> And, of course, pushbuttons and dials by their very nature are limiting
Yes, yes.
> Some Devuaners will say "but wait, bad as that is, it's still better
> than modern init scripts."
It is true that **SOME** init scripts have becom
Steve Litt wrote:
> "Multi-seat" makes little sense now that when you add a user you can give him
> or her a $400 computer with which he can share the server's data.
I would beg to disagree - at least for some workloads. I think "it depends" is
often teh answer to the question of "is multi-sea
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