Re: [DNG] Mixer for alsa

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Tue, 23 Aug 2022 21:34:09 +0200 - aitor :

> Hi all,
> 
> As I said in the irc channel some days ago, I've started developing a 
> new alsamixer in Gtk.

...which IMHO could be very useful:

- alsamixer is good, but (?) it has a ncurses interface...

- alsamixergui is a gui (FLTK) frontend for alsamixer which code is kept
  unchanged, but the gui is really poor: 
  + you cannot change the mixer device to control from inside the gui
  itself 
  + there is no user configuration available (i.e. you cannot change the
  font size, which could be a problem if text is displayed too small etc)
  + there is no integration with the desktop theme/layout
  + ...

- qasmixer maybe good... but it is qt not gtk...

- other mixers for alsa? I do not know...

So a good gtk gui for alsamixer (just a gui, whitout code changes) would
be very useful ("good gtk gui" I mean: gtk, with desktop layout
integration, user configurable).

> Here you are a video:
> https://www.gnuinos.org/gmixer/
> 
> In the video you can see three different mixers for alsa:
> 
> - On the bottom, qasmixer (developed in Qt5)
> 
> - On the top left, alsamixergui

see above...

> - On the top right, my new project.
> 
> I'll call it Gmixer for sure.

hum... let me suggest use a different name (g refers gnome too much)...
say gtkamixer or amixer-gtk or gtkalsamixer and similar...

Thanks
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Re: [DNG] The word is irony

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> The word is irony

Disgust also.


Fri, 8 Jul 2022 05:29:05 -0400 - Haines Brown :

> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=Systemd-Creator-Microsoft
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Re: [DNG] resolv.conf

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Mon, 9 May 2022 04:49:35 -0400 - Steve Litt :

> Antony Stone said on Sun, 8 May 2022 16:28:38 +0200
> 
> >On Sunday 08 May 2022 at 16:24:03, william m. moss wrote:
> >  
> >> Years ago I became fed up with too many applications and
> >> installations corrupting my resolv.conf. I type in a resolv.conf
> >> using an editor.
> >
> >Me too.  
> 
> Me three.
> 
> >  
> >> To prevent the file from being corrupted by other applications:
> >
> >chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf  
> 
> I chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf also. Besides that, I run my own DNS
> (unbound) and strongarm my /etc/resolv.conf to that.

Me four.


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[DNG] Chimaera installation issue (regulatory.db)

[al3xu5 via Dng]

Hi

This is to report an istallation issue with Chimaera (net install).

The setup process halted at the beginning asking the "firmware"(???)
package for 'regulatory.db'.

After some investigation I found it is related to a wireless-regdb package:

> wireless regulatory database for Linux
>  This package provides a machine-readable database of legal
>  regulations on radio emissions that affect use of wireless networking.
>  The Linux kernel and drivers use this to maintain compliance with
>  those regulations.


I (was in doubt and) provided (on a USB key) two packages:

wireless-regdb_2020.04.29-2_all.deb
wireless-regdb-udeb_2020.04.29-2_all.udeb

Then the setup process went ahead.

Maybe this should be handled by the setup program.

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Re: [DNG] [OT] problem with quemu dnsmasq vs unbound

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Fri, 21 Jan 2022 14:08:26 +0100 - Florian Zieboll via Dng
:

> On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 12:55:04 +0100
> al3xu5 via Dng  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Please, I would ask for your advices about the situation described
> > below.
> > 
> > Excuse me if this could be OT in this list.
> > 
> > On my chimaera system, I am using unbound as a local recursive
> > caching DNS (not authoritative) server. More, I have uninstalled
> > dnsmasq, as I do not need it and want to avoid it interfering with
> > unbound.
> > 
> > But QEMU/KVM requires dnsmasq to start the 'default' virt network.
> > 
> > I have seen the dnsmasq-base package should contain a dnsmasq
> > executable which cannot be started as a system daemon.
> > 
> > Maybe the dnsmasq-base package a solution?  
> 
> 
> I can confirm that having dnsmasq-base installed is sufficient to start
> the network.

Good. Thank you.

Any need to change the dnsmasq configuration to avoid port conflicts?

Or to load the tun module (as suggested by aitor -- Thanks aitor)?

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Re: [DNG] [OT] problem with quemu dnsmasq vs unbound

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Fri, 21 Jan 2022 13:18:49 +0100 - Antony Stone
:

> On Friday 21 January 2022 at 12:55:04, al3xu5 via Dng wrote:
> 
> > On my chimaera system, I am using unbound as a local recursive caching
> > DNS (not authoritative) server. More, I have uninstalled dnsmasq, as I
> > do not need it and want to avoid it interfering with unbound.
> > 
> > But QEMU/KVM requires dnsmasq to start the 'default' virt network.  
> 
> Does it really "require" dnsmasq?
> 
> I don't have a Chimaera system here running Qemu/KVM, but do I have a
> Beowulf one, and that doesn't run dnsmasq.
> 
> What does "aptitude why dnsmasq" tell you on that machine?


dnsmasq is required in order to start the default network:

$ sudo virsh net-start default
  error: Failed to start network default
  error: Cannot check dnsmasq binary /usr/sbin/dnsmasq: No such file or
directory


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[DNG] [OT] problem with quemu dnsmasq vs unbound

[al3xu5 via Dng]

Please, I would ask for your advices about the situation described below.

Excuse me if this could be OT in this list.

On my chimaera system, I am using unbound as a local recursive caching DNS
(not authoritative) server. More, I have uninstalled dnsmasq, as I do not
need it and want to avoid it interfering with unbound.

But QEMU/KVM requires dnsmasq to start the 'default' virt network.

I have seen the dnsmasq-base package should contain a dnsmasq executable
which cannot be started as a system daemon.

Maybe the dnsmasq-base package a solution?

Or, how to configure dnsmasq just to interact with virtual machines and
not with my unbound system on the phisycal machine?

Thanks

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Re: [DNG] Question re: security/info sent with emails and more

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Thu, 20 Jan 2022 06:32:39 -0600 - o1bigtenor via Dng :

> Greetings
> 
> When I look at the headers from my emails and sometimes available
> in websites all this information about my system is included.
> 
> Is there a way to block the sending of this particular information?

Hi...

My suggestions are:

- do not use email services like gmail or any other similar stuff... much
  better to choose a privacy-focused service etc. --
  either for free (i.e. tutanota) or also paying (i.e. runbox)

- use a good and standardized POP/SMTP/IMAP mail client (avoiding web
  clients when possibile), which should let you heve full control of email
  headers... i would strongly suggest claws-mail which has a lot of
  god features (inclunding customization on headers)

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Re: [DNG] Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video

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Sun, 16 Jan 2022 11:56:51 + - ael via Dng :

> On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 04:12:44AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> > 
> > This was discussed on the devuan-offtopic IRC channel, so I watched the
> > video:
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECCr_KFl41E  
> 
> But youtube has become impossible to watch with hideous intrusive
> deviant advertisements... And google seem to have found a way to make
> youtube-dl hopelessly slow. Not to mention that the YT viewer is
> dire: you can't slow down or speed up etc like, say, mpv.
> 
> A bit off topic, I know...
> 
> Does anyone know of a way of accessing youtube nowadays without wasting
> huge amounts of time and losing the will to live and all concentration
> before getting to the proper topic (etc)?

Give TorBrowser a try.

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Re: [DNG] HDA AD1882 no card

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Sun,  9 Jan 2022 19:32:13 +0100 (CET) - k...@aspodata.se:

> I have a lenovo desktop computer which I cannot make sound work
> on, what am I missing ?
> 
> It's a HDA AD1882 "sound card", but alsamixer says "no card".
> 
>  alsa-info, kernel config and lenovo doc (see p.80) in:
> http://aspodata.se/tmp/sound/
> 
> ///
> 
> I run with static /dev (no udev) and
> boot directly to disk (no initrd).

Which is the output for:

$ cat /proc/asound/modules

and 

$ lsmod | grep snd



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Re: [DNG] Firefox/Icecat build (was: Re: Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox)

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Sun, 9 Jan 2022 19:04:59 +0100 - aitor :

> Hi,
> 
> On 9/1/22 18:43, al3xu5 via Dng wrote:
> >> Hi.
> >>
> >> Sorry if I come back to this after a long time...
> >>
> >> But after upgrading to Chimaera, I'm trying to make the build.
> >>
> >> A question: after the manual download of the three files above
> >> (without adding the gnuinos repos), is there a way how I can verify
> >> their integrity?  
> > Solved by myself (using the gnuinos repository gpg key...).
> >
> > Sorry for the noise.  
> 
> You have the checksums in the .dsc file

Indeed. I have used the keys in gnuinos-archive-keyring.gpg to check the .dsc 
file integrity.

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Re: [DNG] Firefox/Icecat build (was: Re: Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox)

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Sun, 9 Jan 2022 13:27:56 +0100 - al3xu5 via Dng :

> Fri, 24 Dec 2021 16:35:44 +0100 - aitor :
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On 24/12/21 10:40, al3xu5 via Dng wrote:  
> > > $ apt-get source icecat
> > >
> > >QUESTION:
> > >- Is it the same to manually download the sources (just to avoid
> > > adding the guinos repositories)?
> > >- In this case, is the following the right one?
> > >
> > > http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0.orig.tar.xz
> > >
> > 
> > Yes, but you need three files:
> > 
> > http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0-1.dsc 
> > <http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0-1.dsc>
> > 
> > http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0.orig.tar.xz
> >  
> > <http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0.orig.tar.xz>
> > 
> > http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0-1.debian.tar.xz
> >  
> > <http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0-1.debian.tar.xz>
> >   
> > > - Init an empty git repository
> > >QUESTION:
> > >- I suppose you mean using the sources directory on my machine.
> > > Right?
> > 
> > Once you've downloaded the files, go to the directory containing them 
> > and create the git repository in a new folder:
> > 
> > $ mkdir icecat
> > 
> > $ cd icecat
> > 
> > $ git init
> > 
> > $ git config --global user.name "your name"
> > 
> > $ git config --global user.email "your email"
> > 
> > $ gbp import-dsc ../icecat_78.15.0-1.dsc
> > 
> >   
> > > - Import the description file of icecat:
> > >
> > > $ gbp import-dsc ../icecat*.dsc
> > >
> > >QUESTION:
> > >- Again, is it the same to manually download the .dsc file in the
> > >  source directory on my machine?
> > >- In this case, is the following the right one?
> > >
> > > http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0-1.dsc
> > >
> > 
> > No. You've just downloaded the files and imported the whole project
> > into your initial empty git repository. You did things this way
> > because there is no remote git repository to clone from.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Aitor.
> >   
> 
> Hi. 
> 
> Sorry if I come back to this after a long time...
> 
> But after upgrading to Chimaera, I'm trying to make the build.
> 
> A question: after the manual download of the three files above (without
> adding the gnuinos repos), is there a way how I can verify their
> integrity? 

Solved by myself (using the gnuinos repository gpg key...).

Sorry for the noise.

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Re: [DNG] Firefox/Icecat build (was: Re: Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox)

[al3xu5 via Dng]

Fri, 24 Dec 2021 16:35:44 +0100 - aitor :

> Hi,
> 
> On 24/12/21 10:40, al3xu5 via Dng wrote:
> > $ apt-get source icecat
> >
> >QUESTION:
> >- Is it the same to manually download the sources (just to avoid
> > adding the guinos repositories)?
> >- In this case, is the following the right one?
> >
> > http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0.orig.tar.xz
> >  
> 
> Yes, but you need three files:
> 
> http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0-1.dsc 
> <http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0-1.dsc>
> 
> http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0.orig.tar.xz
>  
> <http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0.orig.tar.xz>
> 
> http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0-1.debian.tar.xz
>  
> <http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0-1.debian.tar.xz>
> 
> > - Init an empty git repository
> >QUESTION:
> >- I suppose you mean using the sources directory on my machine.
> > Right?  
> 
> Once you've downloaded the files, go to the directory containing them 
> and create the git repository in a new folder:
> 
> $ mkdir icecat
> 
> $ cd icecat
> 
> $ git init
> 
> $ git config --global user.name "your name"
> 
> $ git config --global user.email "your email"
> 
> $ gbp import-dsc ../icecat_78.15.0-1.dsc
> 
> 
> > - Import the description file of icecat:
> >
> > $ gbp import-dsc ../icecat*.dsc
> >
> >QUESTION:
> >- Again, is it the same to manually download the .dsc file in the
> >  source directory on my machine?
> >- In this case, is the following the right one?
> >
> > http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0-1.dsc
> >  
> 
> No. You've just downloaded the files and imported the whole project into
> your initial empty git repository. You did things this way because there
> is no remote git repository to clone from.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Aitor.
> 

Hi. 

Sorry if I come back to this after a long time...

But after upgrading to Chimaera, I'm trying to make the build.

A question: after the manual download of the three files above (without
adding the gnuinos repos), is there a way how I can verify their
integrity? 

Regards
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Re: [DNG] xdg-desktop-portal

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Thu, 6 Jan 2022 22:48:16 +0100 - Antony Stone
:

> On Thursday 06 January 2022 at 22:30:58, Ken Dibble wrote:
> 
> > Why is xdg-desktop-portal in a fresh install of Chimaera?  
> 
> I have a Chimaera machine here, freshly installed, without any graphical 
> desktop environment - just a command-line network server - and
> xdg-desktop- portal is not installed.
> 
> > It can be safely uninstalled, as it no devuan packages in the base
> > install require it,  
> 
> They may not REQUIRE it, but I wonder whether you are allowing packages
> to install RECOMMENDS as well?
> 
> Try "aptitude why xdg-desktop-portal" and see whether something you do
> want to have on your machine has simply Recommended xdg-desktop-portal,
> and you ended up with it because you haven't told apt or aptitude not to
> do that sort of thing without your permission.
> 
> I always put two files into /etc/apt/apt.conf.d before allowing much
> software to be installed:
> 
> /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/norecommendationsplease
> APT::Install-Recommends "false";
> APT::Get::Install-Recommends "false";
> 
> /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/nosuggestionsplease
> APT::Install-Suggests "false";
> APT::Get::Install-Suggests "false";
> 
> That way nothing gets installed unless I explicitly ask for it, or it's 
> essential for something I asked for.

Hi 

Please can anyone suggest a way to list all the packages installed as
recommended but without a real dependency? 

I would be curious to see how I have my system from this point of view ... 


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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

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Mon, 3 Jan 2022 22:02:48 +0100 - aitor :

> Hi,
> 
> On 3/1/22 12:05, al3xu5 via Dng wrote:
> > After upgraded to Chimaera, I wsa able to install snetaid .deb
> > packets without problems.
> >
> > It seems it works as expected.
> >
> > Many thanks Aitor!  
> 
> Good :)
> 
> > PS:  I would also kindly ask you for information on the status of
> > simple-netaid-gtk<https://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/simple-netaid-gtk>
> >
> > Thanks again  
> 
> I do not dare giving a precise date for the packages of the gtk
> interface, because there are also other key-areas on which i would like
> to spend my time, such as vdev or the live-sdk documentation, among
> others. Even though, if it appears to be a widespread desire on
> prioritize any of these concrete areas, it could be carred out in the
> short term.

The snetaid gtk inteface would be nice, but certainly not urgent.


> Cheers, and thanks for your interest!

Thanks to you.
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Re: [DNG] request for assistance

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Mon, 3 Jan 2022 06:37:43 -0600 - o1bigtenor via Dng :

> Greetings
> 
> Following the official directions:
> 
> https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/chimaera/upgrade-to-chimaera
> 
> I get :
> 
> # apt update
> Ign:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera InRelease
> Ign:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-security InRelease
> Ign:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-updates InRelease
> Ign:4 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-backports InRelease
> Err:5 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera Release
>   404  Not Found [IP: 131.188.12.211 80]
> Err:6 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-security Release
>   404  Not Found [IP: 131.188.12.211 80]
> Err:7 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-updates Release
>   404  Not Found [IP: 131.188.12.211 80]
> Err:8 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-backports Release
>   404  Not Found [IP: 131.188.12.211 80]
> Reading package lists... Done
> E: The repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera Release' does
> not have a Release file.
> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is
> therefore disabled by default.
> N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user
> configuration details.
> E: The repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-security
> Release' does not have a Release file.
> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is
> therefore disabled by default.
> N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user
> configuration details.
> E: The repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-updates
> Release' does not have a Release file.
> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is
> therefore disabled by default.
> N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user
> configuration details.
> E: The repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-backports
> Release' does not have a Release file.
> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is
> therefore disabled by default.
> N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user
> configuration details.
> 
> 
> Hmm - - - not only does that response me that I was unsuccessful
> in upgrading but 2> it means I really don't know what to do next.
> 
> Please - - - what do I do to succeed at apt dist-upgrade? (from
> beowulf to chimera)


Hi are you sure your `/etc/apt/sources.list' file has the correct naming?

I can see `chimera' in the output you pasted... 
But it should be `chimaera`.

Hope it helps
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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

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Mon, 22 Nov 2021 11:32:45 +0100 - al3xu5 via Dng :

> Mon, 22 Nov 2021 01:38:54 +0100 - aitor :
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On 6/11/21 10:36, al3xu5 via Dng wrote:  
> > > I tried to install the new packages on Beowulf:

[...]

> I will retry after upgrading to Chimaera...


After upgraded to Chimaera, I wsa able to install snetaid .deb
packets without problems.

It seems it works as expected.

Many thanks Aitor!


PS:  I would also kindly ask you for information on the status of
simple-netaid-gtk <https://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/simple-netaid-gtk>

Thanks again 


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[DNG] Beowulf to Chimaera upgrade: success report!

[al3xu5 via Dng]

Hi 

A little while ago, I finished upgrade from Beowulf to Chimaera, on a 64bit
with 32GB RAM system.

The upgrade processed has requested some time, as I expected, since the
system disk is mechanical (albeit at 10k rpm) and that the number of
packages installed is quite large.

Everything went regularly, without *any* problem.

Some packages (very few) have been updated by re-running 'Upgrade` and
Dist-upgrade after a reboot.

It was a further upgrade of the same Devuan system originally installed
in 2016 when migrated from a previous Debian installation!

Great!!!

Thanks Devuan !!! 
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Re: [DNG] Firefox/Icecat build (was: Re: Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox)

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Fri, 24 Dec 2021 16:35:44 +0100 - aitor :

> Hi,
> 
> On 24/12/21 10:40, al3xu5 via Dng wrote:
> > $ apt-get source icecat
> >
> >QUESTION:
> >- Is it the same to manually download the sources (just to avoid
> > adding the guinos repositories)?
> >- In this case, is the following the right one?
> >
> > http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0.orig.tar.xz
> >   
> 
> Yes, but you need three files:
> 
> http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0-1.dsc 
> <http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0-1.dsc>
> 
> http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0.orig.tar.xz
>  
> <http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0.orig.tar.xz>
> 
> http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0-1.debian.tar.xz
>  
> <http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0-1.debian.tar.xz>
> 
> > - Init an empty git repository
> >QUESTION:
> >- I suppose you mean using the sources directory on my machine.
> > Right?  
> 
> Once you've downloaded the files, go to the directory containing them 
> and create the git repository in a new folder:
> 
> $ mkdir icecat
> 
> $ cd icecat
> 
> $ git init
> 
> $ git config --global user.name "your name"
> 
> $ git config --global user.email "your email"
> 
> $ gbp import-dsc ../icecat_78.15.0-1.dsc
> 
> 
> > - Import the description file of icecat:
> >
> > $ gbp import-dsc ../icecat*.dsc
> >
> >QUESTION:
> >- Again, is it the same to manually download the .dsc file in the
> >  source directory on my machine?
> >- In this case, is the following the right one?
> >
> > http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0-1.dsc 
> >  
> 
> No. You've just downloaded the files and imported the whole project into
> your initial empty git repository. You did things this way because there
> is no remote git repository to clone from.


Aitor, thank you al ot for the clear and detailed explanation.

I will try after upgrading to Chimaera.

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Re: [DNG] Firefox/Icecat build (was: Re: Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox)

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Thu, 23 Dec 2021 22:43:32 +0100 - aitor :

> On 23/12/21 22:38, aitor wrote:
> > The packages of icecat i386 will appear in ../build-area.  
> 
> In the case of amd64, skip all the steps related to pbuilder and run:
> 
> $ gbp buildpackage --git-export-dir="../build-area"


Yes, I am in the amd64 case.

So please can you confirm the steps below, and plase answer some questions?

--  HOWTO --

- Add the repository of gnuinos chimaera

- Download the sources of icecat-78.15. They contain all the lang-packs:

$ apt-get source icecat

  QUESTION: 
  - Is it the same to manually download the sources (just to avoid adding
  the guinos repositories)?
  - In this case, is the following the right one?
  
http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0.orig.tar.xz

- Init an empty git repository 
  QUESTION: 
  - I suppose you mean using the sources directory on my machine. Right?

- Import the description file of icecat:

$ gbp import-dsc ../icecat*.dsc

  QUESTION: 
  - Again, is it the same to manually download the .dsc file in the
source directory on my machine?
  - In this case, is the following the right one?
  http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/icecat_78.15.0-1.dsc

- Adjust debian/browser.mozconfig.in to suite your needs (see the section
  "Configure the build" in your link above).

- Build the packages (amd64):

$ gbp buildpackage --git-export-dir="../build-area"

The packages of icecat amd64 will appear in ../build-area.




Thank you a lot.
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Re: [DNG] Firefox/Icecat build (was: Re: Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox)

[al3xu5 via Dng]

Thu, 23 Dec 2021 22:38:27 +0100 - aitor :

> Hi,
> 
> On 23/12/21 20:56, al3xu5 via Dng wrote:
> > Until some time ago I was able to build the old versions of X,
> > certainly until 52.x. -- I had also made a guide for building Icecat:
> > https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:IceCat/Compile_and_package/build_52.6.0_on_Devuan_2.0.0_ASCII_64bit
> >
> > Now the building process seems changed. So, please, could anyone give a
> > guide (even if schematic) on how to build current Firefox/Icecat
> > releases?  
> 
> I did it recently.
> 
> PREREQUISITES:
> 
> I recommend a fresh install of devuan chimaera amd64 on a computer with
> 8G RAM, and a swap partition of 16 GB.

I have 32GB RAM and 16GB swap. So it should be ok.

But I am still on Beowulf. Hope to upgrade soon...

> --  HOWTO --
> 
> Here you are a quick guide:
> 
> - Add the repository of gnuinos chimaera
> 
> - Download the sources of icecat-78.15. They contain all the lang-packs:
> 
> $ apt-get source icecat
> 
> - Init an empty git repository and import the description file of icecat:
> 
> $ gbp import-dsc ../icecat*.dsc
> 
> - Adjust debian/browser.mozconfig.in to suite your needs (see the
> section "Configure the build" in your link above).
> 
> - Install git-buildpackage, quilt, pbuilder and cowbuilder
> 
> - Create a jail containing a base system of devuan chimaera i386
> in /var/cache/pbuilder/base.cow:
> 
>   $ sudo cowbuilder --create --distribution="chimaera"
> --architecture="i386" --mirror http://deb.devuan.org/merged
> 
> - Build the packages:
> 
> $ gbp buildpackage --git-pbuilder --git-pbuilder-options="--host-arch
> i386"  --git-export-dir="../build-area"
> 
> git-buildpackage will ask you for sudo's password, and probably you'll
> need to install previously aptitude in the jail. If so,
> chroot /var/cache/pbuilder/base.cow and install aptitude. All the build
> dependencies will be installed automatically.
> 
> The packages of icecat i386 will appear in ../build-area.
> 
> Good lock :)
> 
> Aitor.

I will try after my Chimaera upgrade.
Thank you Aitor.

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Re: [DNG] Firefox/Icecat build (was: Re: Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox) - TYPO FIX

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Thu, 23 Dec 2021 20:56:04 +0100 - al3xu5 via Dng :

> Thu, 16 Dec 2021 14:19:42 +0100 - aitor :
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On 16/12/21 7:08, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:  
> > > I don't think I'm up for compiling firefox from source.
> > 
> > [...]  
> 
> Until some time ago I was able to build the old versions of X, certainly

I am sorry... X --> Firefox/Icecat


> until 52.x. -- I had also made a guide for building Icecat:
> https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:IceCat/Compile_and_package/build_52.6.0_on_Devuan_2.0.0_ASCII_64bit
> 
> Now the building process seems changed. So, please, could anyone give a
> guide (even if schematic) on how to build current Firefox/Icecat
> releases?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> al3xu5
> 





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[DNG] Firefox/Icecat build (was: Re: Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox)

[al3xu5 via Dng]

Thu, 16 Dec 2021 14:19:42 +0100 - aitor :

> Hi,
> 
> On 16/12/21 7:08, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:
> > I don't think I'm up for compiling firefox from source.  
> 
> [...]

Until some time ago I was able to build the old versions of X, certainly
until 52.x. -- I had also made a guide for building Icecat:
https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:IceCat/Compile_and_package/build_52.6.0_on_Devuan_2.0.0_ASCII_64bit

Now the building process seems changed. So, please, could anyone give a
guide (even if schematic) on how to build current Firefox/Icecat releases?

Thanks in advance
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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[al3xu5 via Dng]

Mon, 22 Nov 2021 01:38:54 +0100 - aitor :

> Hi,
> 
> On 6/11/21 10:36, al3xu5 via Dng wrote:
> > I tried to install the new packages on Beowulf:
> >
> > - snetaid 1.0-1 package was installed, but I have:
> >
> > $ sudo service snetaid status
> > /usr/sbin/snetaid: error while loading shared libraries:
> > libnetaid.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
> > directory
> >
> > - indeed when trying to install the libnetaid 1.0-1 I get a dependency
> >error being required libc6>=2.29 ...  
> 
> I've got the same error in Void Linux due to other reasons. Setting the
> environmental variable:
> 
> |export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu|
> 
> solved the issue, as you can see in the following screenshot:
> 
> https://www.gnuinos.org/simple-netaid/simple-netaid_voidlinux.png
> <https://www.gnuinos.org/simple-netaid/simple-netaid_voidlinux.png>

Thanks for the info. 

On my Beowulf system the path is `/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu` (without the
`/usr` part).

More, my issue is the libc6 version: I am still on Beowulf and libc6 is
2.28.


I will retry after upgrading to Chimaera...

Regards 

 
> However, simple-netaid is not working 100% in Void Linux yet, though
> there is not much left:
> 
> - Configure the runit scripts for snetaid in /etc/sv/snetaid.
> 
> - Install ifupdown, a runtime dependency.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Aitor.



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Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

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Fri, 19 Nov 2021 13:45:48 +0100 - "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng"
:

> Anno domini 2021 Fri, 19 Nov 07:33:09 -0500
>  Rich W via Dng scripsit:
> > Sadly, this will probably never change.
> > 
> > They used the same argument to choose Windows adimins over Linux ones
> > in the past.  
> 
> Which basicly translates to "I want to pay less".

... but pay (probably more) for RH "support" plans


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Re: [DNG] Devuan with usr merge?

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Sat, 13 Nov 2021 17:24:51 -0500 - Steve Litt :

> k...@aspodata.se said on Sat, 13 Nov 2021 22:28:02 +0100 (CET)
> 
> >James Cloos:  
> >> > John Morris via Dng  writes:
> >> > So yes, it is time to eliminate /bin, /sbin and /lib.
> >> the real result shod be eliminate /usr.
> >
> >Guys, please don't push unnessary changes and policies
> >to the user. Let each and everyone be the master of his/her
> >own systems.  
> 
> Ex-actly!
> 
> >
> >Just because debian wants to go that route doesn't mean 
> >it has to be engraved as a policy for devuan.  
> 
> If it's possible to diverge from Debian's usr merge with Devuan's given
> (wo)manpower, I agree. 

I totally agree.

> Starting somewhere in the 00's, Debian started
> making a lot of bad decisions. 

Indeed. 

> By the way, for the person who really wants the usr merge, wouldn't the
> conversion from an unmerged system consist of two mass copies and a few
> symlinks?
> 
> SteveT

Unfortunately things seem to be rather more complex, as some people have
pointed out in this discussion:

Sat, 13 Nov 2021 23:29:16 +0100 - Martin Steigerwald :

> Steve Litt - 13.11.21, 23:24:51 CET:
> > By the way, for the person who really wants the usr merge, wouldn't
> > the conversion from an unmerged system consist of two mass copies and
> > a few symlinks?  
> 
> No.
> 
> At least not if you like dpkg to be working fine. As I noted before, see:
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Dpkg/MergedUsr


My suspected is that the (totally unecessary) usr-merge decision made by
Debian will force (almost) all its derivatives to adapt even if they
despite. 

This is because maintaining a derived distribution rejecting usr-merge
would become too complex and onerous...

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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

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Tue, 2 Nov 2021 08:30:34 +0100 - aitor :

> Hi,
> 
> On 1/11/21 19:48, aitor wrote:
> 
> > The code of simple-netaid is ready to use:
> >

[...]

> Done:
> 
> https://www.gnuinos.org/simple-netaid/
> 


Hi aitor

Thank you a lot for your work. 


> Packages have been tested in a fresh install of devuan chimaera. The
> dependency on libpstat (Jude Nelson) might be replaced with pwdx
> (maybe...) Please, don't forget to configure
> your /etc/network/interfaces properly. 

I tried to install the new packages on Beowulf:

- snetaid 1.0-1 package was istalled, but I have:

$ sudo service snetaid status
/usr/sbin/snetaid: error while loading shared libraries: libnetaid.so.1:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

- indeed when trying to install the libnetaid 1.0-1 I get a dependency
  error being required libc6>=2.29 ...

Since now I have no time to rebuild snetaid sources on Beowulf, I decided
to firstly migrate my system to Chimaera (as soon as possible) and then
"retry" to install snetaid...


> Next packages will consist of a
> status icon in both Gtk and Qt. I have them working.

Great!!!


> Shortly i'll test simple-netaid in other distributions. Specially, I
> look forward to build packages for Void Linux, including also ifupdown
> -available in github for other distros, de(b|v)uan aside.
> 
> Feedback is welcome.
> 
> Cheers,


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