Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl):
> I'm talking about kernel not progs, and those don't get issued CVEs.
1. Kernels get CVEs.
2. The lion's share of ext4 security-sensitive bugs have been in
e2fsprogs code.
3. I'm disappointed to have (by implication) politely invited you to
On Wed, 18 Jul at 2018 05:02:06 +0200
Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 at 03:21:14 +0200
> Adam Borowski wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 05:24:11PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
>>> Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl):
>>>
Then there are local exploits. Ted Ts'o for
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 at 03:21:14 +0200
Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 05:24:11PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
>> Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl):
>>
>>> Then there are local exploits. Ted Ts'o for example keeps fuzzying
>>> ext4 for years yet exploitable bugs still pop up
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 at 00:33:45 +0200
Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 11:21:15PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> My point is that the chances there is a backdoor in the Linux kernel
>> are about as high as the chances tomorrow an alien ship abducts the
>> world's leaders to
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 05:24:11PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl):
>
> > Then there are local exploits. Ted Ts'o for example keeps fuzzying ext4 for
> > years yet exploitable bugs still pop up frequently -- usually just DoS but
> > arbitrary code execution
Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl):
> Then there are local exploits. Ted Ts'o for example keeps fuzzying ext4 for
> years yet exploitable bugs still pop up frequently -- usually just DoS but
> arbitrary code execution isn't unheard of.
I've read a lot of e2fsprogs CVEs, and cannot
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 11:21:15PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> My point is that the chances there is a backdoor in the Linux kernel
> are about as high as the chances tomorrow an alien ship abducts the world's
> leaders to take them captive to another solar system
Actually, it's pretty
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 at 12:26:29 -0500
Эльбрус Кондратьев wrote:
> Many people around forgets that the mission of the US National Security
> Agency encompasses to 'stay on top' of everything they consider
> themselves 'exceptional' and above the rule of law. It's their job to
> intervene, hack
On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 10:01 -0700, spiralofhope wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jul 2018 11:53:17 +0200
> Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>
> > This discussion seems bordering on conspiracy theories. Those claim
> > that something might be true and sow fear, uncertainty and doubt.
>
> I consider it a god of the
On Tuesday 17 July 2018 at 19:20:08, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2018-07-17 12:04, spiralofhope wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 01:52:53 +0200 Alessandro Selli wrote:
> > > On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 15:16:27 -0400 Steve Litt wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jimmy, you've just won a free procmail trip to
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 12:20:08 -0500
goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2018-07-17 12:04, spiralofhope wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 01:52:53 +0200
> > Alessandro Selli wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 15:16:27 -0400
> >> Steve Litt wrote:
> >>
> >> > Jimmy, you've just won a free procmail trip
On 2018-07-17 12:04, spiralofhope wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 01:52:53 +0200
Alessandro Selli wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 15:16:27 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> Jimmy, you've just won a free procmail trip to /dev/null on my
> computer.
Isn't this a stylish way to put it? :-)
aka "plonk".
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 01:52:53 +0200
Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 15:16:27 -0400
> Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > Jimmy, you've just won a free procmail trip to /dev/null on my
> > computer.
>
> Isn't this a stylish way to put it? :-)
aka "plonk".
For anyone young:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2018 11:53:17 +0200
Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> This discussion seems bordering on conspiracy theories. Those claim
> that something might be true and sow fear, uncertainty and doubt.
I consider it a god of the gaps argument. There are blind spots in the
many eyes, and there
* Also worth noting this quote at the bottom of TFA:
"Oh, Christ. It was obviously a joke, no government agency has ever asked me
for a backdoor in Linux," Torvalds told Mashable via email.
* Apologies for top posting with crappy mobile app
On July 9, 2018 11:41:10 PM CDT, KatolaZ wrote:
::
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 05:02:52AM +0200, arne wrote:
[cut]
>
> Hi,
>
> I don't remind which kernel.
> but is was in the press for sure:
> USA authorities were given a backdoor
> in the kernel.
> Could have been 2.6
> For security, fighting criminals whats however.
>
> There was absolutely
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 05:17:07 +0200
arne wrote:
> > I think Devuan devs have more important things to do that looking
> > for a pin in a haystack.
> >
> >
> Alessandro
>
> I totally agree.
>
> Hard to find that pin.
Errr, try opening your eyes.
Since the floppies came out, there have
On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 10:52:20 -0700
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> Good sources tell me we need our own kernel, do we have one?
> Thanks.
>
>
> This last week I've been testing Slackware and I see Patrick is
> dealing with systemd too, Slackware 14.2 is on what seems to be a
> ASCII system, except ASCII
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 05:02:52 +0200, arne wrote in message
<20180710050252.3494d2af@fx4100>:
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 11:03:11 +0200
> KatolaZ wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 11:52:41PM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
> > > Hi again,
> > >
> > > El 08/07/18 a las 23:49, info at smallinnovations dot
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 11:03:11 +0200
KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 11:52:41PM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
> > Hi again,
> >
> > El 08/07/18 a las 23:49, info at smallinnovations dot nl escribió:
> > > I am not a kernel guy so maybe i am asking a stupid question; but
> > > what other parts
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 16:15:20 +0200
Antony Stone wrote:
[...]
Oh my, who are these guys?
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On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 20:47:01 +0200
marc wrote:
> Hello Jimmy
>
> > Today Linux is pretty much owned by the NSA, including it's developers,
> > not many educated eyes out there anymore to spot and report malware.
> > Things have changed.
>
> So there is a nice poster around with a grumpy
On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 at 17:35:01 -0700
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 07/07/2018 05:03 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 10:52:20 -0700
>> Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> Good sources tell me we need our own kernel,
>>
>>Why? What's wrong with the available ones?
>
>
>
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 15:16:27 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> Jimmy, you've just won a free procmail trip to /dev/null on my
> computer.
Isn't this a stylish way to put it? :-)
Alessandro
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Jimmy Johnson - 09.07.18, 12:00:
> On 07/09/2018 02:53 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Hi Katola.
> >
> > KatolaZ - 09.07.18, 09:51:
> >> On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 03:52:48PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> >>> On 07/08/2018 02:49 PM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> On 08-07-18 23:32,
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 03:53:01 -0700
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 07/09/2018 03:22 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
> > I guess we need to calm down a bit here? Martin expressed his
> > view. You Jimmy expressed yours, and nobody asked you to get/stay
> > out of the way. I presume you should give to the opinions
Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
> This is not a definitive citation, but looks like a concrete starting
> point for a rational discussion:
>
> https://outflux.net/blog/archives/2016/10/18/security-bug-lifetime/
Kees Cook has always done really good work.
> TL;DR: The article shows
Hello Jimmy
> Today Linux is pretty much owned by the NSA, including it's developers, not
> many educated eyes out there anymore to spot and report malware. Things have
> changed.
So there is a nice poster around with a grumpy cat saying
"The NSA broke my internet, so I am building a GNU one". I
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 11:06:55 +0200
KatolaZ wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 06:06:12PM +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA256
> >
> >
> >
> > On 09/07/18 17:51, KatolaZ wrote:
> > > Literally anybody can get the sources of the Linux kernel and
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 07:59:11AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
[cut]
>
>
> [PDF]D-Bus in the Kernel - LinuxCon 2014, Tokyo, Japan
>
> https://events.static.linuxfound.org/sites/events/files/slides/linuxconjapan2014.pdf
>
>
> GitHub - "dbus-like" code for the Linux kernel
>
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 07:59:11 -0700
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> KatolaZ, I came looking for help. Reading a linux kernel requires
> knowledge of software engineering, I don't have that knowledge or
> experience, even if I open kernel source I would have no idea what I
> was looking at. I just want
On 09/07/18 15:59, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 07/09/2018 04:17 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 04:02:23AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 07/09/2018 03:53 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 03:42:40AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
[cut]
Well some of those kernel experts are
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 04:15:20PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Monday 09 July 2018 at 16:10:02, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
> > Actually the Linux kernel is the most scrutinized and secure piece of
> > software that's around.
>
> Interesting claim.
>
> Citation/s?
>
This is not a
On 07/09/2018 04:17 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 04:02:23AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 07/09/2018 03:53 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 03:42:40AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
[cut]
Well some of those kernel experts are saying you need to check your kernel.
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 16:15:20 +0200
Antony Stone wrote:
> On Monday 09 July 2018 at 16:10:02, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
>> Actually the Linux kernel is the most scrutinized and secure piece of
>> software that's around.
>
> Interesting claim.
>
> Citation/s?
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 11:03:11 +0200, KatolaZ wrote in message
<20180709090311.dfizki4zlq6ru...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 11:52:41PM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
> > Hi again,
> >
> > El 08/07/18 a las 23:49, info at smallinnovations dot nl escribió:
> > > I am not a kernel guy
On Monday 09 July 2018 at 16:10:02, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> Actually the Linux kernel is the most scrutinized and secure piece of
> software that's around.
Interesting claim.
Citation/s?
Antony.
--
Don't procrastinate - put it off until tomorrow.
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 18:06:12 +1000
Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA256
>
>
>
> On 09/07/18 17:51, KatolaZ wrote:
>> Literally anybody can get the sources of the Linux kernel and read
>> through it. So I guess your fears are somehow unjustified...
>
>
On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 at 14:24:32 -0700
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 07/08/2018 02:25 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
> > On Saturday 07 July 2018 at 14:03:33, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 10:52:20 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> >>
> >>> Good sources
> >
> > Who / where?
>
>
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 07/09/2018 03:53 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 03:42:40AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> >
> > [cut]
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Well some of those kernel experts are saying you need to check your
> > > kernel.
> > > Also how you
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 13:34:44 +0200
KatolaZ wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 09:30:48PM +1000, terryc wrote:
> > On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 04:09:14 -0700
> > Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> >
> > > There's a big difference, I'm not the one trying to stop people
> > > from taking a interest an their distros
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 13:27:03 +0200
KatolaZ wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 12:15:27PM +0100, Rowland Penny wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> > Jimmy, please either put up or shut up.
> > If there are 'backdoors' in the kernel code, tells us where they
> > are, if you cannot or will not, just shut up.
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 09:30:48PM +1000, terryc wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 04:09:14 -0700
> Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>
> > There's a big difference, I'm not the one trying to stop people from
> > taking a interest an their distros security and you are. No more
> > reply's to you unless you show
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 04:09:14 -0700
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> There's a big difference, I'm not the one trying to stop people from
> taking a interest an their distros security and you are. No more
> reply's to you unless you show a interest in helping find malware in
> this distro.
1: I already
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 12:15:27PM +0100, Rowland Penny wrote:
[cut]
>
> Jimmy, please either put up or shut up.
> If there are 'backdoors' in the kernel code, tells us where they are,
> if you cannot or will not, just shut up.
>
Again, please, let's do our best to keep this discussion
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 04:02:23 -0700
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 07/09/2018 03:53 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 03:42:40AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> >
> > [cut]
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Well some of those kernel experts are saying you need to check
> >> your kernel. Also how you
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 04:02:23AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 07/09/2018 03:53 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 03:42:40AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> >
> > [cut]
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Well some of those kernel experts are saying you need to check your
> > > kernel.
> >
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 04:02:23 -0700
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 07/09/2018 03:53 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 03:42:40AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> >
> > [cut]
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Well some of those kernel experts are saying you need to check
> >> your kernel. Also how you
On Monday 09 July 2018 at 12:53:01, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 07/09/2018 03:22 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
> >
> > I guess we need to calm down a bit here? Martin expressed his
> > view. You Jimmy expressed yours, and nobody asked you to get/stay out
> > of the way. I presume you should give to the
On 07/09/2018 04:01 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
On Monday 09 July 2018 at 12:42:40, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 07/09/2018 03:16 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
There are lots of people out there who understand a lot more about the
Linux kernel than many of us here. I simply decided to trust them,
collectively,
On Monday 09 July 2018 at 13:02:23, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> what I know is out there for all to read.
So give us some URLs to what you have already found.
Or are you just trying to waste our time?
Antony.
--
The first fifty percent of an engineering project takes ninety percent of the
time,
On 07/09/2018 03:53 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 03:42:40AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
[cut]
Well some of those kernel experts are saying you need to check your kernel.
Also how you respond to this thread speaks volumes.
Please, share some relevant links then, and let us
On Monday 09 July 2018 at 12:42:40, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 07/09/2018 03:16 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
> >
> > There are lots of people out there who understand a lot more about the
> > Linux kernel than many of us here. I simply decided to trust them,
> > collectively, because I know that nobody can
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 03:53:01AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
[cut]
> >
> >
> > uh?!? o_O
> >
> > I guess we need to calm down a bit here? Martin expressed his
> > view. You Jimmy expressed yours, and nobody asked you to get/stay out
> > of the way. I presume you should give to the opinions
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 03:42:40AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
[cut]
>
>
> Well some of those kernel experts are saying you need to check your kernel.
> Also how you respond to this thread speaks volumes.
Please, share some relevant links then, and let us understand what you
are talking
On 07/09/2018 03:22 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 03:00:22AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
[cut]
This discussion seems bordering on conspiracy theories. Those claim that
something might be true and sow fear, uncertainty and doubt. Some parts
of conspiracy theories may turn out to
On 07/09/2018 03:16 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 02:50:56AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 07/09/2018 01:53 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 07/09/2018 01:06 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
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On 09/07/18 17:51, KatolaZ wrote:
Literally
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 03:00:22AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
[cut]
> >
> > This discussion seems bordering on conspiracy theories. Those claim that
> > something might be true and sow fear, uncertainty and doubt. Some parts
> > of conspiracy theories may turn out to have been true, like for
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 02:50:56AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 07/09/2018 01:53 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> > On 07/09/2018 01:06 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > Hash: SHA256
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 09/07/18 17:51, KatolaZ wrote:
> > > >
On 07/09/2018 02:53 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Hi Katola.
KatolaZ - 09.07.18, 09:51:
On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 03:52:48PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 07/08/2018 02:49 PM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
On 08-07-18 23:32, aitor_czr wrote:
Hi Jimmy,
El 08/07/18 a las 23:24, Jimmy
Hi Katola.
KatolaZ - 09.07.18, 09:51:
> On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 03:52:48PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> > On 07/08/2018 02:49 PM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> > > On 08-07-18 23:32, aitor_czr wrote:
> > > > Hi Jimmy,
> > > >
> > > > El 08/07/18 a las 23:24, Jimmy Johnson escribió:
>
On 07/09/2018 01:53 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 07/09/2018 01:06 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
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Hash: SHA256
On 09/07/18 17:51, KatolaZ wrote:
Literally anybody can get the sources of the Linux kernel and read
through it. So I guess your fears are somehow
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 06:06:12PM +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA256
>
>
>
> On 09/07/18 17:51, KatolaZ wrote:
> > Literally anybody can get the sources of the Linux kernel and read
> > through it. So I guess your fears are somehow
On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 11:52:41PM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> El 08/07/18 a las 23:49, info at smallinnovations dot nl escribió:
> > I am not a kernel guy so maybe i am asking a stupid question; but what
> > other parts besides the official kernel from kernel.org would you
> >
On 07/09/2018 01:06 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
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On 09/07/18 17:51, KatolaZ wrote:
Literally anybody can get the sources of the Linux kernel and read
through it. So I guess your fears are somehow unjustified...
There were long standing
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On 09/07/18 17:51, KatolaZ wrote:
> Literally anybody can get the sources of the Linux kernel and read
> through it. So I guess your fears are somehow unjustified...
There were long standing problems with openssl -- the source code was
fully
On Monday 09 July 2018 at 09:53:06, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 01:17:58AM +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > > Something way over my head.
> > > Anybody friends with Klaus Knopper? Or has other sources for help?
> > > Maybe someone from Puppy Linux?
> >
> > I think you're
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 01:17:58AM +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
[cut]
> > Something way over my head.
> > Anybody friends with Klaus Knopper? Or has other sources for help?
> > Maybe someone from Puppy Linux?
>
> I think you're confusing the Linux kernel with GNU/Linux distributions.
>
> You
On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 03:52:48PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 07/08/2018 02:49 PM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> > On 08-07-18 23:32, aitor_czr wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Jimmy,
> > >
> > > El 08/07/18 a las 23:24, Jimmy Johnson escribió:
> > > > Thoughts? Volunteers?
> > >
> > > I
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 01:17:58 +0200, Antony wrote in message
<201807090117.58753.antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it>:
> On Monday 09 July 2018 at 00:52:48, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>
> > I don't think Linus is trying to hide anything, he just can't talk
> > about a backdoor and will deny a backdoor
On 07/09/2018 01:52 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> I don't think Linus is trying to hide anything, he just can't talk
> about a backdoor and will deny a backdoor if you ask him about one.
If you watch the video of when he was asked that question up front at a
conference there is a clear "no" sound
On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 05:55:29PM -0500, Эльбрус Кондратьев wrote:
>
> The war on privacy will continue, so I'll suggest to take sustainable
> positions. The need of control and 'power' in some people, and the need
> to follow orders in others, stands ingrained in their psychological
> makeup,
On 07/07/2018 05:03 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 10:52:20 -0700
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
Good sources tell me we need our own kernel,
Why? What's wrong with the available ones?
Devuan is there someone that can at lest look at the Debian kernel?
Thanks,
--
Jimmy
On 07/08/2018 04:46 PM, terryc wrote:
On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 15:52:48 -0700
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
Something I haven't done but maybe a kernel source package can be
opened to expose what is in there? Something way over my head.
I'll admit it has become complicated and it is now a while since
On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 15:52:48 -0700
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> Something I haven't done but maybe a kernel source package can be
> opened to expose what is in there? Something way over my head.
I'll admit it has become complicated and it is now a while since I've
compiled my own kernel from sources,
On 07/08/2018 04:17 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
On Monday 09 July 2018 at 00:52:48, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
I don't think Linus is trying to hide anything, he just can't talk about
a backdoor and will deny a backdoor if you ask him about one.
If there is a backdoor, and he denies it, then he's
On Monday 09 July 2018 at 00:52:48, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> I don't think Linus is trying to hide anything, he just can't talk about
> a backdoor and will deny a backdoor if you ask him about one.
If there is a backdoor, and he denies it, then he's hiding something.
If he's not hiding anything,
On Sun, 2018-07-08 at 14:24 -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 07/08/2018 02:25 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
> > On Saturday 07 July 2018 at 14:03:33, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 10:52:20 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> >>
> >>> Good sources
> >
> > Who / where?
>
>
> You have
On 07/08/2018 02:49 PM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
On 08-07-18 23:32, aitor_czr wrote:
Hi Jimmy,
El 08/07/18 a las 23:24, Jimmy Johnson escribió:
Thoughts? Volunteers?
I also would like to see devuan including its own kernel. I can help
on packaging stuff.
Aitor.
I am
Hi again,
El 08/07/18 a las 23:49, info at smallinnovations dot nl escribió:
I am not a kernel guy so maybe i am asking a stupid question; but what
other parts besides the official kernel from kernel.org would you
install? Or leave out?
I would leave out binary blobs :)
Aitor.
On 08-07-18 23:32, aitor_czr wrote:
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> Hi Jimmy,
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> El 08/07/18 a las 23:24, Jimmy Johnson escribió:
>> Thoughts? Volunteers?
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> I also would like to see devuan including its own kernel. I can help
> on packaging stuff.
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> Aitor.
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Hi Jimmy,
El 08/07/18 a las 23:24, Jimmy Johnson escribió:
Thoughts? Volunteers?
I also would like to see devuan including its own kernel. I can help on
packaging stuff.
Aitor.
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On 07/08/2018 02:25 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
On Saturday 07 July 2018 at 14:03:33, Alessandro Selli wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 10:52:20 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote:
Good sources
Who / where?
You have to do a lot of reading, the information is out there going back
to 2012 the main source
On Saturday 07 July 2018 at 14:03:33, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 10:52:20 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote:
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> > Good sources
Who / where?
> > tell me we need our own kernel,
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> Why? What's wrong with the available ones?
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> Alessandro
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On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 10:52:20 -0700
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> Good sources tell me we need our own kernel,
Why? What's wrong with the available ones?
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Good sources tell me we need our own kernel, do we have one?
Thanks.
This last week I've been testing Slackware and I see Patrick is dealing
with systemd too, Slackware 14.2 is on what seems to be a ASCII system,
except ASCII seems to be just a little bit more sable in audio and
video. I
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