Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
> I might have missed something, but there is no need to speculate: it's
> sufficient to have a look at the headers of emails posted on DNG. Most
> of them do not have a Reply-To: header set, which means that Mailman
> does not add anything (there is a
On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 01:18:18PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
>
> > I hope it doesn't add a reply-to header if there's already one.
>
> I can't say for certain, but it's likely GNU Mailman would (in that
> case) add the poster's real address as an
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
> I hope it doesn't add a reply-to header if there's already one.
I can't say for certain, but it's likely GNU Mailman would (in that
case) add the poster's real address as an additional address within the
existing Reply-To: address (if they even
On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 08:06:52PM +, Simon Hobson wrote:
>
> What they've down with the list (and I've seen it with other lists
> too) is: if the mail matches some criteria, then the originator's
> address is replaced with the list address and a reply to header is
> added. Thus for those
On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 08:49:32PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
>
> > I *hate* the way that the Google Groups mailing lists refuse to
> > include the mailing-list headers so you cannot just
> > reply-to-list.
>
> *glyph of surprise*
>
> Are you
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
> I *hate* the way that the Google Groups mailing lists refuse to
> include the mailing-list headers so you cannot just
> reply-to-list.
*glyph of surprise*
Are you sure? I just checked a recent example, and List-Post is there
and completely
On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 10:17:41PM +, Simon Hobson wrote:
>
> Nice thought, but do you really think that the likes of Google give a sh*t
> about some little mailing list somewhere, and which should be using Google's
> services anyway - how dare they use their own solution !
> The reality
Quoting Miles Fidelman (mfidel...@meetinghouse.net):
> Ahh... missed that. Didn't really notice anything until this huge
> string of emails. Sigh...
Eh, no worries. I half-realised that's what probably happened.
[publishing SPF & DMARC/DKIM records in DNS for a mailing list host:]
> True,
On 12/27/18 11:07 AM, Rick Moen wrote:
Quoting Miles Fidelman (mfidel...@meetinghouse.net):
Speaking as someone who hosts a couple of dozen email lists, I
really don't understand what the fuss is about here.
The fuss involved people having paid no attention to the announcement of
Dng's
Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk):
> Perhaps I'm missing something, but doesn't SRS provide a gaping wide
> chasm for spammers to pile through ?
I would call _gaping_ chasm an exaggeration -- but it is certainly
abusable (to the extent cross-domain aliases become known or
Rick Moen wrote:
> Back in the day, I gave out /etc/aliases entries to friends that
> leveraged the 'mafia' theme of my linuxmafia.com domain,
In our case it was simple alias entries ina database queried by Postfix - but
same effect and same problem.
> SRS (sender rewriting scheme) was SPF
Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk):
> Correction noted.
I truly appreciate your hearing it in the spirit intended. Thank you,
Simon. (We'll want to wind this up soon, as it has little to do with
Devuan, and discussion has veered away from Dng's adoption of Mailman
DMARC-mitigation
Rick Moen wrote:
> Simon, I appreciate your pitching in to attempt to answer this question.
> A few necessary corrections, though:
Correction noted. However, in my defence my issues (which I no longer have to
deal with) were with mail forwarding in servers rather than mailing lists (IIRC
our
Quoting Miles Fidelman (mfidel...@meetinghouse.net):
> Speaking as someone who hosts a couple of dozen email lists, I
> really don't understand what the fuss is about here.
The fuss involved people having paid no attention to the announcement of
Dng's DMARC-mitigation munging starting on
Quoting info at smallinnovations dot nl (i...@smallinnovations.nl):
> So far i have just installed DMARC one time but if i remember it
> correctly either SPF or DKIM had to be correct to accept the e-mail or
> not. To quote my source "A message will fail DMARC if the message fails
> both (1) SPF
On 27-12-18 03:20, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> {sigh} Nobody listens.
>
> There is nothing needing a 'fix' (unless you wish to argue with
> operators of domains publishing aggressive DMARC policies (p=reject or
> p=quarantine) and convince them that such is an unwise policy). In a
> world where DMARC
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:06:52 +
Simon Hobson wrote:
> Michael wrote:
>
> >> Argh. Sending to the list this time.
> >>
> >> Please don't set "Reply-to" on list emails.
> >>
> >> Antony.
> >
> > I’m pretty sure the individuals aren’t doing it explicitly. This
> > list just doesn’t seem
Quoting Michael (mb_devuan-mailingl...@inet-design.com):
> I am going to say, that the Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE) Users
> mailing list seems to send from/to ProtonMail without the reply to
> issue the Devuan Users list has. The list admin, and owner of the
> project, is Timothy Pearson,
Simon, I appreciate your pitching in to attempt to answer this question.
A few necessary corrections, though:
Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk):
> Unfortunately I think it's one of those things where you have to break
> some stuff to work around the deliberate breakage implemented
On Wednesday 26 December 2018 02:06:52 pm Simon Hobson wrote:
> The problem is SPF, DMARC, and friends. These basically provide information
> about where emails may come from - eg gmail may only come from Google's
> servers. This is a problem for any system that forwards email - such as
> mailing
Quoting chillfan via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> I can confirm that I haven't set a reply-to header, but this is just a
> web mail. It could be that my webmail provider just doesn't allow me
> to unset the header, but I haven't looked that far into it.
Indeed, you didn't set it in this case.
Michael wrote:
>> Argh. Sending to the list this time.
>>
>> Please don't set "Reply-to" on list emails.
>>
>> Antony.
>
> I’m pretty sure the individuals aren’t doing it explicitly. This list just
> doesn’t seem to create, or override really, the headers quite right. Some
> messages
I can confirm that I haven't set a reply-to header, but this is just a web
mail. It could be that my webmail provider just doesn't allow me to unset the
header, but I haven't looked that far into it.
Cheers,
chillfan
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On Wednesday, December 26, 2018 4:07 PM,
On Wednesday 26 December 2018 03:24:24 am Antony Stone wrote:
> Argh. Sending to the list this time.
>
> Please don't set "Reply-to" on list emails.
>
> Antony.
I’m pretty sure the individuals aren’t doing it explicitly. This list just
doesn’t seem to create, or override really, the headers
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