Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2015-01-25 Thread John Holland
Thanks, I ended up finding that the following command works for my case: jackd -T -ndefault -dalsa -dhw:1,3 after doing aplay -l which gave List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: CS4206 Analog [CS4206 Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevi

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2015-01-24 Thread Joel Roth
John Holland wrote: > Thanks for this info,it got me further with Jack than I > ever have gotten before! Do you have any tips on how to > route jack sound to an hdmi output? (The outp u t works > with raw alsa) Even if you don't have a sound card, you can test jackd with jackd -d dummy To asso

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2015-01-24 Thread John Holland
Thanks for this info,it got me further with Jack than I ever have gotten before! Do you have any tips on how to route jack sound to an hdmi output? (The outp u t works with raw alsa) On January 23, 2015 12:33:21 PM EST, Joel Roth wrote: >Steve Litt wrote: >> Guys, in the past I've tried to get

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2015-01-23 Thread Joel Roth
Steve Litt wrote: > Guys, in the past I've tried to get Jack running about four or five > times, and never succeeded. This included the sound studio version of > Ubuntu. I'm sure that Jack is perfect for the dedicated sound > enthusiast, but for the average guy, Jack just might be the only thing >

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2015-01-23 Thread Steven W. Scott
I seem to recall the only times I've experienced problems with jack is when I didn't have proper user/group definitions in place, and/or had improper patch connections. For some reason user/group settings never get defined just right when installing jackd, regardless of distro. I think it also defa

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2015-01-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:16:08 +0100 "Javier Ortega Conde (Malkavian)" wrote: > Hi Sean: > > > I would love to see jack as a default or as an optional package > > with sane defaults. If pulse is really needed,it works as a jack > > client. I have to kill -9 pulse frequently as it leaks badly and >

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2015-01-23 Thread Michael Dec
On 2015-01-23 10:16, Javier Ortega Conde (Malkavian) wrote: Hi Sean: I would love to see jack as a default or as an optional package with sane defaults. If pulse is really needed,it works as a jack client. I have to kill -9 pulse frequently as it leaks badly and wont die; You mean it's leakin

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2015-01-23 Thread Javier Ortega Conde (Malkavian)
Hi Sean: > I would love to see jack as a default or as an optional package with sane > defaults. If pulse is really needed,it works as a jack client. I have to > kill -9 pulse frequently as it leaks badly and won't die; jack only goes > crazy when I misconfigure it. > I would love to to have Jack

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2015-01-22 Thread Sean Davis
I would love to see jack as a default or as an optional package with sane defaults. If pulse is really needed,it works as a jack client. I have to kill -9 pulse frequently as it leaks badly and won't die; jack only goes crazy when I misconfigure it. On Dec 25, 2014 9:15 PM, "Martinx - ジェームズ" wrote

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-26 Thread mutek
On venerdì 26 dicembre 2014 04:15:17 CEST, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: Can you guys believe this: A Desktop with 6G of RAM running Ubuntu 14.10 with systemd + pulseaudio: USER PID %CPU *%MEM*VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND userzyx 25830 0.3*75.0* 6171772 4487884

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-26 Thread T.J. Duchene
No need to apologise, but I do if it sounded like I was giving you a dressing-down. I just want to make sure that if we decide to toss out code that it is tossed for a good reason. I hope you have the best of New Year's as well. On 12/26/2014 12:03 PM, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: You're absolut

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-26 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
You're absolutely right!! I'm sorry... And I got it... Happy new year!! On 26 December 2014 at 15:58, T.J. Duchene wrote: > > On 12/25/2014 9:15 PM, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > > Can you guys believe this: > > A Desktop with 6G of RAM running Ubuntu 14.10 with systemd + pulseaudio: > > > USER

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-26 Thread T.J. Duchene
On 12/25/2014 9:15 PM, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: Can you guys believe this: A Desktop with 6G of RAM running Ubuntu 14.10 with systemd + pulseaudio: USER PID %CPU *_%MEM_*VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND userzyx 25830 0.3 *_75.0_* 6171772 4487884 ? S 46:11 /usr/bin/pu

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-25 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
Can you guys believe this: A Desktop with 6G of RAM running Ubuntu 14.10 with systemd + pulseaudio: USER PID %CPU *%MEM*VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND userzyx 25830 0.3*75.0* 6171772 4487884 ? S wrote: > Dear Friends, > > my motivation for use apulse is t

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-25 Thread m_maass
Dear Friends, my motivation for use apulse is the follow: i like simple systems, witch do what they say and no more. Sometime i need sound from my PC, and i use/have ALSA. Some software, especialy actual skype work only with PA or with this nice part of sofware. I do not need "a network-capable

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-24 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
+10! Currently, that pulseaudio thing consumes ~7% of my CPU while I'm not playing a single song!! Poettering job, right?! tsc...tsc... Also, I don't use Skype, so, I don't mind to stick only with Alsa, if I can use VLC, that's fine... :-) Nevertheless, it is good to know that Skype works wit

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-24 Thread T.J. Duchene
On 12/24/2014 9:44 PM, Joel Roth wrote: Hi T.J., Do you have reference for that? Not directly, Joel. What I remember is reading about race considerations on Wheezy. There were warnings that improper setups could cause lockups with 100% CPU. Maybe you can start there if you really want to

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-24 Thread Joel Roth
T.J. Duchene wrote: > Adam Borowski wrote: > >I think it's better to think about what do we get to gain and what to lose > >from pulseaudio. > >Problems: > > * likes to take 100% of a CPU core for no obvious reasons > Older versions, yes. There is also the fact that is more than just one > laye

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-24 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 08:08:57PM -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote: > >Package: pulseaudio > > 1st group- > >libsystemd-daemon0 (>= 31), libsystemd-login0 (>= 31), > You can compile up to at least PA 4 without any references to > systemd. I should know, I've personally backported to Whe

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-24 Thread T.J. Duchene
On 12/24/2014 8:30 PM, Richard wrote: Thanks, T.J., for an insightful observation. I'm running a Wheezy based distro at present planning to stay with it until a more lasting solution comes along. I still have Wheezy myself. Given what has been going on with Debian, I've taken it on mysel

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-24 Thread Richard
Thanks, T.J., for an insightful observation. I'm running a Wheezy based distro at present planning to stay with it until a more lasting solution comes along. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dn

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-24 Thread T.J. Duchene
On 12/24/2014 6:48 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: I think it's better to think about what do we get to gain and what to lose from pulseaudio. Gains: * ability to reroute streams mid-run (like, speakers->headphones), but only if they are connected to physically separate sound cards * a common way t

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-24 Thread T.J. Duchene
On 12/24/2014 5:58 PM, Alex 'AdUser' Z wrote: All text below is IMHO. Package: pulseaudio Version: 2.0-6.1 <...> Depends: libasound2 (>= 1.0.24.1), libc6 (>= 2.9), libcap2 (>= 2.10), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.1.1), libfftw3-3, libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0), libltdl7 (>= 2.4.2), liborc-0.4-

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-24 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 04:45:01PM -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote: > What is wrong with PulseAudio? I agree, it can be a PITA, but > unless you are concerned about some kind of systemd dependency I do > not understand why Devuan would be seeking a replacement. It's no > worse than Jack or any of the o

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-24 Thread Alex 'AdUser' Z
All text below is IMHO. Package: pulseaudio Version: 2.0-6.1 <...> Depends: libasound2 (>= 1.0.24.1), libc6 (>= 2.9), libcap2 (>= 2.10), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.1.1), libfftw3-3, libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0), libltdl7 (>= 2.4.2), liborc-0.4-0 (>= 1:0.4.16), libpulse0 (= 2.0-6.1), libsample

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-24 Thread T.J. Duchene
On 12/24/2014 11:13 AM, m_maass wrote: Dear Freedom lovers, i would suggest to you this project https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse and would say thank for your efforts. Cheers, and Happy Grav'Mass! What is wrong with PulseAudio? I agree, it can be a PITA, but unless you are concerned about

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-24 Thread Jude Nelson
I'm not that worried about the fact that the author considers it "done." It's not like you have to oil it and give it tune-ups to keep it working ;) Fortunately, it's not that complex of a program--if any incompatibilities or bugs are discovered down the road, it shouldn't take much effort to fix

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-24 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 12:26:10PM -0500, Jude Nelson wrote: > +1 for apulse. It's proven stable enough for Skype calls in my (limited) > experience with it, which is the only reason I would have had for > installing PulseAudio (ideally I'd avoid Skype altogether, but it's > required for $DAYJOB).

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-24 Thread Jude Nelson
+1 for apulse. It's proven stable enough for Skype calls in my (limited) experience with it, which is the only reason I would have had for installing PulseAudio (ideally I'd avoid Skype altogether, but it's required for $DAYJOB). -Jude On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 12:13 PM, m_maass wrote: > Dear Fr

[Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-24 Thread m_maass
Dear Freedom lovers, i would suggest to you this project https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse and would say thank for your efforts. Cheers, and Happy Grav'Mass! Mike ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/