Re: [DNG] [solved] Re: USB ethernet device disappeared on Ascii

2017-07-05 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 at 12:33:55 +0300 Lars Noodén wrote: > On 07/05/2017 12:17 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > [snip] > >> There are no Ethernet controllers in the list. See if unplugging and >> re-plugging it produces log messages, and if it does see if they document >>

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

2017-07-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > It is relevant in proving you cannot do that and *lawfully* distribute the > module, which is what I have kept saying. Indeed, you do keep trying to change the topic to distribution. But I already pointed that out. ;-> > I am not

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

2017-07-05 Thread Joachim Fahrner
Am 2017-07-05 09:08, schrieb Rick Moen: So, in general terms, I certainly encourage your approach. It's not obvious from present evidence why you are getting timeouts querying your local recursive nameserver. You'll have to do further diagnosis locally. (Lacking any better ideas at the

[DNG] [solved] Re: USB ethernet device disappeared on Ascii

2017-07-05 Thread Lars Noodén
On 07/05/2017 12:17 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: [snip] > There are no Ethernet controllers in the list. See if unplugging and > re-plugging it produces log messages, and if it does see if they document > anything strange. > > You could also try to use the adapter on another machine, or boot

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

2017-07-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > > 'It cannot work if what you need to do is feeding the HD controller some > > proprietary firmware that cannot legally be embedded in the GPL driver.' > > > > Has nothing whatsover to do with distribution. Obviously. > > It obviously

Re: [DNG] A problem with a license

2017-07-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 12:10:34 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message <20170705121034.0040505a@pulvis.localnet>: > On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 at 10:56:45 +0100 > KatolaZ wrote: > > [...] > > > Please, please, please: let's avoid to tranform this in a flame. The > > thing is that

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

2017-07-05 Thread Rick Moen
Oh, by the way, Anthony, I notice you had: > From: Antony Stone > To: dng@lists.dyne.org, Rick Moen , > Alessandro Selli but also: >Please reply to

Re: [DNG] Post Office: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > Does Post Office work properly with IMAP? [...] > What is toggletree? Found it. Fl_ToggleTree is described as 'A Tree Browser Widget for FLTK'. http://www.fltk.org/wiki.php?V79+TC+Q Note that according to poster 'lm' on that page, source code

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

2017-07-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Joachim Fahrner (j...@fahrner.name): > Looks like that solved it. Same problem is described here: > https://serverfault.com/questions/405650/why-are-these-udp-packets-being-dropped Glad to hear it! > But shouldn't DNSSEC use tcp instead of udp? Only if the response is larger than the

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

2017-07-05 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 at 02:48:31 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >>> 'It cannot work if what you need to do is feeding the HD controller some >>> proprietary firmware that cannot legally be embedded in the GPL driver.' >>> >>>

Re: [DNG] A problem with a license

2017-07-05 Thread Bardot Jérôme
On 05/07/2017 11:56, KatolaZ wrote: > DR D1Rs, > > yesterday I was reviewing a new package made by Daniel Abrecht (DPA), > a little library that implements the sd_journal_* functions by > redirecting the calls to syslog. The project can be found here: > >

Re: [DNG] Broken packages in Ascii, how to fix? (Beware of Debian Stretch) WAS: devuan packages explorer

2017-07-05 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, During the last week or so, I had VLC broken on ASCII. The solution to get back VLC working was to manually inspect the installed VLC dependencies for their version numbers. I compared those numbers with what an installation simulation of vlc proposed as dependency versions. Doing that, I

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

2017-07-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Antony Stone (antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it): > Not at all - I have that as a standard sig on all my list postings. If you > had something similar I would have replied to you differently. It's OK with me either way. I was just amused by the contrast between you going _out of your

Re: [DNG] USB ethernet device disappeared on Ascii

2017-07-05 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 at 11:47:28 +0300 Lars Noodén wrote: > On 07/05/2017 11:36 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 at 10:57:51 +0300 >> Lars Noodén wrote: >> >>> I had been using Ethernet over USB on Ascii until yesterday or so. Now

Re: [DNG] devuan packages explorer

2017-07-05 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 04:15:11AM +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: [cut] > > t@gdOv:/home/mr# ls -l /etc/apt/ > total 32 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 283 2017-07-03 18:15 apt.conf > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2017-06-29 19:48 apt.conf.d > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 99 2017-05-15 23:23 listchanges.conf

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

2017-07-05 Thread Joachim Fahrner
Am 2017-07-05 10:47, schrieb Rick Moen: edns-buffer-size: Number of bytes size to advertise as the EDNS reassembly buffer size. This is the value put into datagrams over UDP towards peers. The actual buffer size is determined by

[DNG] A problem with a license

2017-07-05 Thread KatolaZ
DR D1Rs, yesterday I was reviewing a new package made by Daniel Abrecht (DPA), a little library that implements the sd_journal_* functions by redirecting the calls to syslog. The project can be found here: https://git.devuan.org/DPA/sd_journal_shim This would allow to avoid to link against

Re: [DNG] A problem with a license

2017-07-05 Thread Vincent Bentley
I have some suggestions for some changes to Daniel Abrecht's sd_journal_shim license and code that may be agreeable. 1. Give Daniel Abrecht an email address to use in his copyright messages on the source code for sd_journal_shim E.g. daniel.abre...@contributor.devuan.org 2. Change the code so

Re: [DNG] systemd allows elevated access from unit files?

2017-07-05 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, Adam Borowski writes: > On Tue, Jul 04, 2017 at 08:14:40PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Evilham writes: >> > Hi there, >> > >> > Am 03/07/2017 um 16:08 schrieb dev: >> >> "So, yeah, I don't think there's anything to fix in systemd here." >> >>- Poettering >> >> >> >> Not sure

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

2017-07-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Antony Stone (antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it): > Would you two please take your personal flame war offlist, and argue with > each > other in private? I've twice asked the other gentleman to please go away and argue with someone else. I hope that helps. As to the rest, the record

Re: [DNG] Broken packages in Ascii, how to fix? (Beware of Debian Stretch) WAS: devuan packages explorer

2017-07-05 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 08:46:04AM +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > This is just correcting the subject line, and if there are no replies, > withdrawing. > > Widrawing to dev1galaxy.org forums: > Broken packages in Ascii, how to fix? (Beware of Debian Stretch) >

Re: [DNG] A classic conversation

2017-07-05 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 12:55:04AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > weland> > But for systemd, the last straw was trying to mount a USB drive one day. > I would do "mount", and nothing was mounted. I looked through the logs, > and noticed it was being unmounted on mount. What the fuck, right?

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

2017-07-05 Thread Joachim Fahrner
Am 2017-07-05 10:47, schrieb Rick Moen: edns-buffer-size: ... tation reassembly problems, usually seen as timeouts, then a value of 1480 can fix it. I did some more tests (ping ns.dyne.org with different packet sizes) and found that 1480 is

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

2017-07-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 05 July 2017 at 10:57:07, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Antony Stone: > > Would you two please take your personal flame war offlist, and argue with > > each other in private? > > I've twice asked the other gentleman to please go away and argue with > someone else. I hope that helps.

Re: [DNG] Broken packages in Ascii, how to fix? (Beware of Debian Stretch) WAS: devuan packages explorer

2017-07-05 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170705-10:25+0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 04:15:11AM +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > t@gdOv:/home/mr# ls -l /etc/apt/ > > total 32 > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 283 2017-07-03 18:15 apt.conf > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2017-06-29 19:48 apt.conf.d > >

Re: [DNG] Broken packages in Ascii, how to fix? (Beware of Debian Stretch) WAS: devuan packages explorer

2017-07-05 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170705-11:06+0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > During the last week or so, I had VLC broken on ASCII. > > The solution to get back VLC working was to manually inspect the > installed VLC dependencies for their version numbers. I compared those > numbers with what an installation

Re: [DNG] A problem with a license

2017-07-05 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 at 10:56:45 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: [...] > Please, please, please: let's avoid to tranform this in a flame. The > thing is that Devuan/main should include only free-software, and that > clause makes the package non-compliant with the basic freedom 0. We >

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

2017-07-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Joachim Fahrner (j...@fahrner.name): > Am 2017-07-05 09:43, schrieb Joachim Fahrner: > > >Jul 5 09:37:46 server unbound: [22751:0] info: NSEC3s for the > >referral proved no DS. > > Could it be that my problem has to do with DNSSEC? Obviously, you could test this hypothesis by

Re: [DNG] USB ethernet device disappeared on Ascii

2017-07-05 Thread Lars Noodén
On 07/05/2017 11:36 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 at 10:57:51 +0300 > Lars Noodén wrote: > >> I had been using Ethernet over USB on Ascii until yesterday or so. Now >> the device no longer shows up, even though it is still connected. >> Wireless works,

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

2017-07-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Joachim Fahrner (j...@fahrner.name): > That's right. And my local unbound is the only nameserver in > /etc/resolv.conf > > I cannot use other nameservers because my postfix queries some RBLs > that allow only limited numbers of queries (they are free for > personal use, but costs for

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

2017-07-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Joachim Fahrner (j...@fahrner.name): > There are no errors in the unbound log. And I'm wondering why these > timeouts are only with dyne.org. I never had such failures with > other domains since years. Maybe there is a problem in my providers > network, but then that should happen with

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

2017-07-05 Thread Joachim Fahrner
Am 2017-07-05 09:24, schrieb Joachim Fahrner: I now increased unbounds verbosity and see if there is further information in the log. Some more info. unbounds verbosity level is now 2. I did a "dig tupac2.dyne.org", which had a timeout. This is in the log: Jul 5 09:37:29 server unbound:

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

2017-07-05 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 at 01:16:46 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> It was and it stayed centered there, no matter how much you insist in >> stating the opposite. I already provided proof of it. > > Your actual wording, which I

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

2017-07-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 05 July 2017 at 10:49:30, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > > I twice quoted the thread proving what I reported was just what was > > been > > > > discussed. > > 'It cannot work if what you need to do is feeding the HD controller some >

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

2017-07-05 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 05/07/2017 at 01:52, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > > [b43 firmware BLOB] > >> It goes there *after* is was extracted out of the proprietary driver. > > I'm of course aware of that -- but that's irrelevant to what I was > saying, which is that it

[DNG] USB ethernet device disappeared on Ascii

2017-07-05 Thread Lars Noodén
I had been using Ethernet over USB on Ascii until yesterday or so. Now the device no longer shows up, even though it is still connected. Wireless works, for the time being, but I'd like to get back to using Ethernet. What should I be looking at? $ uname -a Linux slimbook 4.9.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

2017-07-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > It was and it stayed centered there, no matter how much you insist in > stating the opposite. I already provided proof of it. Your actual wording, which I quoted, says otherwise. Have a great day.

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

2017-07-05 Thread Joachim Fahrner
Am 2017-07-05 09:43, schrieb Joachim Fahrner: Jul 5 09:37:46 server unbound: [22751:0] info: NSEC3s for the referral proved no DS. Could it be that my problem has to do with DNSSEC? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] systemd allows elevated access from unit files?

2017-07-05 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 05/07/2017 at 03:40, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2017 04 Jul 18:59 -0500, Rick Moen wrote: >> Quoting Nate Bargmann (n...@n0nb.us): >> >>> * On 2017 04 Jul 13:27 -0500, Evilham wrote: >>> >>> Well, it still doesn't read mail. >>> >>> Or does it? >> >> Well, it _does_ now include a shell

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

2017-07-05 Thread Joachim Fahrner
Am 2017-07-05 08:51, schrieb Rick Moen: I believe you said that you are running an instance of Unbound as a local recursive nameserver. If so, I hope you are listing it first in /etc/resolv.conf (perhaps by localhost IP). Anyway, that's where you should start looking, to find your problem.

[DNG] A classic conversation

2017-07-05 Thread Rick Moen
Excerpted from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10356933, & lightly reformatted for this medium: deckard1> I used to be on the fence: I knew I hated journald with a passion. But for systemd, the last straw was trying to mount a USB drive one day. I would do

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

2017-07-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > I twice quoted the thread proving what I reported was just what was been > discussed. 'It cannot work if what you need to do is feeding the HD controller some proprietary firmware that cannot legally be embedded in the GPL driver.' Has

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

2017-07-05 Thread Joachim Fahrner
Am 2017-07-05 00:18, schrieb Rick Moen: On a quick, broad check, dyne.org DNS seems robust. There are three network-diverse authoritative nameservers (refreshing to see after observing far too many domains attempting to get by with two, when RFCs require 3-7 auth nameservers[1]), all

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

2017-07-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Joachim Fahrner (j...@fahrner.name): > By now it comes apparent that timeouts from the dns servers are the > problem: Well... hold that thought, please. > Can the short SOA EXPIRE be the cause? No. SOA EXPIRE is how long a secondary nameserver will still treat its copy of the zone

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

2017-07-05 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 at 23:55:30 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > > > It is relevant in proving you cannot do that and *lawfully* distribute > > the module, which is what I have kept saying. > > Indeed, you do keep trying to

Re: [DNG] USB ethernet device disappeared on Ascii

2017-07-05 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 at 10:57:51 +0300 Lars Noodén wrote: > I had been using Ethernet over USB on Ascii until yesterday or so. Now > the device no longer shows up, even though it is still connected. > Wireless works, for the time being, but I'd like to get back to using >

[DNG] Broken packages in Ascii, how to fix? (Beware of Debian Stretch) WAS: devuan packages explorer

2017-07-05 Thread Miroslav Rovis
This is just correcting the subject line, and if there are no replies, withdrawing. Widrawing to dev1galaxy.org forums: Broken packages in Ascii, how to fix? (Beware of Debian Stretch) https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1115 On 170705-04:15+, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > On

Re: [DNG] Amprolla: Another Network Outage.

2017-07-05 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 06:37:41PM -0400, Linux O'Beardly wrote: > Dear Devuan Community, > > We experienced another outage with the amprolla server today due to severe > weather. We've had severe storms with tornado force winds that have taken > down both our power and network grid. This is a

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

2017-07-05 Thread Joachim Fahrner
Am 2017-07-05 11:51, schrieb Rick Moen: Glad to hear it! I've been too early pleased - problem still exists. I now forward dyne.org to Google DNS. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] A problem with a license

2017-07-05 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, KatolaZ writes: > DR D1Rs, > > yesterday I was reviewing a new package made by Daniel Abrecht (DPA), > a little library that implements the sd_journal_* functions by > redirecting the calls to syslog. The project can be found here: > > https://git.devuan.org/DPA/sd_journal_shim > > This

Re: [DNG] A problem with a license

2017-07-05 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 09:17:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: [cut] > > > In a word, I would not agree to include this package in Devuan/main, > > unless that clause is removed. But just for the sake of clarity (and > > because I think this can create a nasty precedent) I thought it was > >

Re: [DNG] A problem with a license

2017-07-05 Thread Ivan J.
On Wed, 05 Jul 2017, KatolaZ wrote: > DR D1Rs, > > yesterday I was reviewing a new package made by Daniel Abrecht (DPA), > a little library that implements the sd_journal_* functions by > redirecting the calls to syslog. The project can be found here: > >

Re: [DNG] systemd allows elevated access from unit files?

2017-07-05 Thread Simon Hobson
Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > No idea whether systemd services run by non-system users makes sense but > then again, lots of systemd probably doesn't make much sense. Do you mean "systemd service" as in "something that's part of systemd"; or do you mean "something that's

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

2017-07-05 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
If the name server receives a question via UDP, that's how it will answer, necessarily. The client could have asked via TCP, but it doesn't know how large the response will be when it sends the question. The general intention here is that the client will receive either an ICMP message or a

Re: [DNG] A problem with a license

2017-07-05 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 10:56:45 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > DR D1Rs, > > yesterday I was reviewing a new package made by Daniel Abrecht (DPA), > a little library that implements the sd_journal_* functions by > redirecting the calls to syslog. The project can be found here: > >

Re: [DNG] A problem with a license

2017-07-05 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 at 13:37:43 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: [...] > I totally agree that the best thing would be for DPA to change the > license to a regular Expat/MIT (i.e., by removing that clause), and it > is evident now that we are all on the same page. He might release it

Re: [DNG] Testing network connectivity

2017-07-05 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 16:46:47 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > > > In daemontools-inspired inits, you express dependencies via if > > statements in the run script. The best way I've found, so far, to do > > this in Devuan is to use

Re: [DNG] Amprolla: Another Network Outage.

2017-07-05 Thread zap
On 07/05/2017 07:17 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > On 2017-07-05 17:37, Linux O'Beardly wrote: >> Dear Devuan Community, >> >> We experienced another outage with the amprolla server today due to >> severe weather. We've had severe storms with tornado force winds that >> have taken down both our

Re: [DNG] error processing package initscripts, because /lib/init/vars.sh missing

2017-07-05 Thread Svante Signell
On Wed, 2017-07-05 at 21:05 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > What is that /lib/init/vars.sh ? Which package should have installed > it? What > could be the reason that it is missing? Please don't reboot. The file /lib/init/vars.sh from util-linux is essential to have a successful boot. I'll

Re: [DNG] Testing network connectivity

2017-07-05 Thread Florian Zieboll
Am 5. Juli 2017 20:06:47 MESZ schrieb Steve Litt : >You still need the 2>/dev/null and you still need the -w2 for very >rare hangs I see... if the targeted hostname does not resolve, netcat returns an error message, also with the -z (zero i/o) option set. Thank you

Re: [DNG] Amprolla: Another Network Outage.

2017-07-05 Thread golinux
On 2017-07-05 17:37, Linux O'Beardly wrote: Dear Devuan Community, We experienced another outage with the amprolla server today due to severe weather. We've had severe storms with tornado force winds that have taken down both our power and network grid. This is a separate outage from the one

Re: [DNG] Systemd: Once again the "not-a-bug" attitude, this time regarding a security issue

2017-07-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 06 Jul 2017 00:36:51 +0200, Martin wrote in message <13758100.4C07cDyKXy@merkaba>: > Hello. > > I am more and more considering finally switching to Devuan for all of > my systems. > > The "not-a-bug" attitude upstream developers, especially Lennart, > show in > > systemd can't handle

[DNG] error processing package initscripts, because /lib/init/vars.sh missing

2017-07-05 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170705-10:25+0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 04:15:11AM +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > [cut] > > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > > build-essential : Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or > > libc-dev > >

Re: [DNG] kernel drivers [WAS: How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii]

2017-07-05 Thread Didier Kryn
Sorry if this is becommint a very specialized discussion. I think this thread will not need to continue very long. Le 05/07/2017 à 22:53, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult a écrit : On 05.07.2017 06:38, Didier Kryn wrote: Also the API of their driver looked in contradiction with the

Re: [DNG] A classic conversation

2017-07-05 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 00:55:04 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Excerpted from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10356933, weland> I don't need intelligent tools, I need tools that do what I say! Quotedfortruth! SteveT Steve Litt July 2017 featured book: Quit

Re: [DNG] A problem with a license

2017-07-05 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 09:06:06PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 at 13:37:43 +0100 > KatolaZ wrote: > > [...] > > > I totally agree that the best thing would be for DPA to change the > > license to a regular Expat/MIT (i.e., by removing that clause),

Re: [DNG] A problem with a license

2017-07-05 Thread Bruce Perens
Do you want to talk with him, or should I? It should be possible to convince him to change the license, so that we can go on with the package. Thanks Bruce On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 8:46 AM, Ivan J. wrote: > On Wed, 05 Jul 2017, KatolaZ wrote: > > > DR D1Rs, > > > >

Re: [DNG] A problem with a license

2017-07-05 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 05.07.2017 11:56, KatolaZ wrote: DR D1Rs, yesterday I was reviewing a new package made by Daniel Abrecht (DPA), a little library that implements the sd_journal_* functions by redirecting the calls to syslog. The project can be found here: by the way: do we have a list of packages that

Re: [DNG] Amprolla Network Outage

2017-07-05 Thread Evilham
Dear Linux, Am 04/07/2017 um 21:41 schrieb Linux O'Beardly: > We are currently experiencing a network outage that has left > amprolla.devuan.org unreachable. I've > spoken to the ISP and they stated the issue should be resolved within > the next 30 minutes, by 16:08

Re: [DNG] A problem with a license

2017-07-05 Thread Bruce Perens
Great work, thanks! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] A problem with a license

2017-07-05 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 02:29:09PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > Already taken care of an hour or so ago on #devuan-dev. > > KatolaZ: Considering everything that has been said here and on the > mailing list, I decided to remove the clause from the license. > I have already updated the

Re: [DNG] kernel drivers [WAS: How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii]

2017-07-05 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 05.07.2017 06:38, Didier Kryn wrote: Also the API of their driver looked in contradiction with the one of Gabriel Paubert who has been developping a discontinued suite of free VME drivers for Debian. I talked with Gabriel Paubert more than a decade ago because I have been using his

Re: [DNG] Amprolla Network Outage

2017-07-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 21:42:09 +0200, Evilham wrote in message : > Dear Linux, > > Am 04/07/2017 um 21:41 schrieb Linux O'Beardly: > > We are currently experiencing a network outage that has left > > amprolla.devuan.org

Re: [DNG] A problem with a license

2017-07-05 Thread Patrick Meade
On 07/05/2017 10:46 AM, Ivan J. wrote: That clause itself is not a big problem, but IMHO it should rather be moved to the README file or something similar rather than the license itself where it actually *is* putting restrictions and in the case of FSF would not be considered free software.

Re: [DNG] A problem with a license

2017-07-05 Thread golinux
Already taken care of an hour or so ago on #devuan-dev. KatolaZ: Considering everything that has been said here and on the mailing list, I decided to remove the clause from the license. I have already updated the repositories accordingly. On 2017-07-05 14:20, Bruce Perens wrote: Do you

Re: [DNG] How to disable a service in sysvinit?

2017-07-05 Thread Vicente Vera
In order to disable a script the related symlinks should be deleted from /etc/rcN.d. These commands should do the job: invoke-rc.d SCRIPT stop # Stop it first update-rc.d -f SCRIPT remove To bring it back: update-rc.d SCRIPT defaults 2017-07-04 20:39 GMT+00:00 Steve Litt

Re: [DNG] error processing package initscripts, because /lib/init/vars.sh missing

2017-07-05 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170705-21:05+, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > What is that /lib/init/vars.sh ? Which package should have installed it? What > could be the reason that it is missing? # dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/initscripts_2.88dsf-59.3+devuan2_amd64.deb reinstalled initscripts, and the /lib/init/vars.sh

[DNG] Amprolla: Another Network Outage.

2017-07-05 Thread Linux O'Beardly
Dear Devuan Community, We experienced another outage with the amprolla server today due to severe weather. We've had severe storms with tornado force winds that have taken down both our power and network grid. This is a separate outage from the one that occurred yesterday that just effected our

[DNG] Systemd: Once again the "not-a-bug" attitude, this time regarding a security issue

2017-07-05 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hello. I am more and more considering finally switching to Devuan for all of my systems. The "not-a-bug" attitude upstream developers, especially Lennart, show in systemd can't handle the process previlege that belongs to user name startswith number, such as 0day #6237

Re: [DNG] Amprolla: Another Network Outage.

2017-07-05 Thread Evilham
Dear Linux, Am 06/07/2017 um 0:37 schrieb Linux O'Beardly: > Dear Devuan Community, > > We experienced another outage with the amprolla server today due to > severe weather. We've had severe storms with tornado force winds that > have taken down both our power and network grid. This is a