I have been looking for a reason to subscribe to this list and I have
now found it. :-)
You are correct it is a bug, but it isn't a Devuan one, Webmin doesn't
know about Devuan, try adding these lines to /usr/share/webmin/os_list.txt
# Devuan
Devuan Linux1.0 debian-lin
On 29/08/15 17:50, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
Tobias Hunger writes:
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Rainer Weikusat
wrote:
'su' is a somewhat generic setuid-0 program: It changes the uid and the
gids associated with itself to the ones for a certain user and then
executes a shell. In addition to
On 05/10/15 18:48, Hendrik Boom wrote:
I made the /var/spool/lpd directory manually, since a search of Debian
packages didn't find any package that includes it as part of its
infrastructure.
I think you will find it is from the 'lpr' package
Rowland
I still think that something's missing,
On 05/10/15 19:28, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 06:54:53PM +0100, Rowland Penny wrote:
On 05/10/15 18:48, Hendrik Boom wrote:
I made the /var/spool/lpd directory manually, since a search of Debian
packages didn't find any package that includes it as part of its
infrastru
On 09/12/15 17:11, Go Linux wrote:
On Wed, 12/9/15, dev wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] XFCE terminal alternatives?
To: "dng"
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015, 10:58 AM
PS:
Found out today my DNG subscription was "disabled due to excessive
bounces" so wasn't getting any mail off t
On 14/12/15 19:46, Edward Bartolo wrote:
Hi All,
What email client do you suggest me to use so that I can properly
quote previous replies?
Thunderbird, it is what I use.
Rowland
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On 19/12/15 10:21, John Hughes wrote:
On 18/12/15 19:40, Steve Litt wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 17:39:26 +0100
John Hughes wrote:
On 18/12/15 17:18, Mitt Green wrote:
No, the actual work on packages that remove libsystemd0 dependency.
I've done quite of it for my machine. Notable examples inc
On 19/12/15 10:53, John Hughes wrote:
On 19/12/15 11:28, Rowland Penny wrote:
On 19/12/15 10:21, John Hughes wrote:
On 18/12/15 19:40, Steve Litt wrote:
most of [ JH's posts ] tended to say "libsystemd0 isn't that bad",
I don't think it's that bad, and, des
On 19/12/15 11:02, John Hughes wrote:
On 19/12/15 11:58, dev1fanboy wrote:
Gnome
If you need more: apt-cache rdepends libsystemd0 | wc -l
We're going round in circles. *I* posted that command:
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20151218.143549.77d859b4.en.html
But you still haven't said
On 19/12/15 11:45, John Hughes wrote:
On 19/12/15 12:02, Rowland Penny wrote:
Look, you troll, If you 'apt-get remove systemd' on debian, it will
remove Gnome or Mate, I know I tried. Anything that does this, is
*BAD* in my books.
You're doing it wrong.
http://without-s
On 21/12/15 10:03, John Hughes wrote:
On 20/12/15 19:01, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
John Hughes writes:
On 19/12/15 11:58, dev1fanboy wrote:
Gnome
If you need more: apt-cache rdepends libsystemd0 | wc -l
We're going round in circles. *I* posted that command:
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/mess
On 21/12/15 11:06, John Hughes wrote:
On 21/12/15 11:52, Rowland Penny wrote:
On 21/12/15 10:03, John Hughes wrote:
What I'm looking for is choice -- I want people who want systemd to
be able to run it, and people who dont want it to be able to use
sysvinit, openrc or upstart or wha
On 21/12/15 13:40, John Hughes wrote:
On 21/12/15 12:41, Rowland Penny wrote:
On 21/12/15 11:06, John Hughes wrote:
On 21/12/15 11:52, Rowland Penny wrote:
On 21/12/15 10:03, John Hughes wrote:
What I'm looking for is choice -- I want people who want systemd
to be able to run it
On 21/12/15 14:30, Mitt Green wrote:
I've been talking a lot about courtesy in the community.
It is certainly the biggest thing Debian lacks (and
some mates from outside lack it as well, check my post here:
http://www.linux.org/threads/random-thoughts-on-linux-and-open-source-movement.7452/)
I m
On 21/12/15 20:01, Mitt Green wrote:
Rowland Penny wrote:
I am beginning to think this may be aimed squarely at me, if so, then
come out and say so. I think Mitt may have taken exception to the word 'moron'
[...]
It was addressed to everyone here. You have taken a few chances here
On 22/01/16 14:29, Klaus Hartnegg wrote:
Am 22.01.2016 um 14:23 schrieb Dr. Nikolaus Klepp:
Does anybody know what sssd is good for?
This is often used together with Samba to make userids of pure Active
Directory users known to the Linux of the domain controller.
https://wiki.samba.org/inde
On 22/01/16 15:32, Klaus Hartnegg wrote:
Am 22.01.2016 um 16:07 schrieb Rowland Penny:
On 22/01/16 14:29, Klaus Hartnegg wrote:
Am 22.01.2016 um 14:23 schrieb Dr. Nikolaus Klepp:
Does anybody know what sssd is good for?
This is often used together with Samba to make userids of pure Active
On 22/01/16 16:02, Rob Owens wrote:
One thing it can be used for is offline authentication for LDAP users. I am
currently using sssd on a Funtoo laptop for this purpose. When I have no
network access (no access to the LDAP server), my users can still log in.
As I said, I cannot think of anyt
On 22/01/16 17:38, Rob Owens wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "Rowland Penny"
On 22/01/16 16:02, Rob Owens wrote:
One thing it can be used for is offline authentication for LDAP users. I am
currently using sssd on a Funtoo laptop for this purpose. When I have no
network
On 10/03/16 11:31, Edward Bartolo wrote:
Hi,
I mistakenly typed git.devuan.net in the URL bar and got the
following. See the attached scrot screen shot.
What is this? I didn't install anything and was running as a normal
unprivileged user. I am taking this as a joke by some pro-systemd
geek.
s
On 13/04/16 16:36, hellekin wrote:
On 04/13/2016 12:44 AM, Simon Walter wrote:
I don't mean that we have to be PC about everything, but
"to be PC"? Err, what?
Can you expand the acronym if that doesn't mean Personal Computer?
==
hk
Allow me , 'PC' in that context would be 'Politically Co
Hi, I am trying to install Devuan in a VM and it isn't working. I
created A Devuan VM midweek and it succeeded.
This time, when it gets to 'Configure the package manager' it seems to
set up the package manager, but it just goes back to 'Configure the
package manager' even if you choose 'select
On 24/04/16 06:01, Daniel Reurich wrote:
Hi Rowland
On 24/04/16 02:21, Rowland Penny wrote:
Hi, I am trying to install Devuan in a VM and it isn't working. I
created A Devuan VM midweek and it succeeded.
This time, when it gets to 'Configure the package manager' it seems
to set
On 24/04/16 09:41, Daniel Reurich wrote:
On 24/04/16 20:36, Rowland Penny wrote:
On 24/04/16 06:01, Daniel Reurich wrote:
Hi Rowland
On 24/04/16 02:21, Rowland Penny wrote:
Hi, I am trying to install Devuan in a VM and it isn't working. I
created A Devuan VM midweek and it succeeded.
On 24/05/16 15:08, Irrwahn wrote:
To the Devs in charge, and to whom it may concern.
I just filed an issue against the Devuan slim package,
requesting its removal from future Devuan releases.
Full quote below signature.
Regards
Urban
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On 11/06/16 02:07, concernedfoss...@teknik.io wrote:
Just because a piece of software has been abandoned doesn't mean that it is
garbage.
My personal opinion is that 'slim' was abandoned because it is garbage.
A dev is not required to work on a piece of software forever: eventually
softwar
On 11/06/16 13:38, concernedfoss...@teknik.io wrote:
Why don't you fking adopt bastille-linux and update it from time to time if you
"don't hate" it so much?
Till then you're a liar and a faker.
Full stop.
Why should I update something I don't use, something I am ambivalent to ??
I have enou
On 11/06/16 14:01, Jaromil wrote:
dear Rowland,
On Sat, 11 Jun 2016, Rowland Penny wrote:
Now go away troll.
we identify this person already as MikeeUSA
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/MikeeUSA
his new address is already banned from the mailinglist and so will be
any other in the future
On 12/06/16 12:18, richard lucassen wrote:
Hello list,
For a few friends I installed Mate desktop using Debian. Under
Debian systemd is required for running Mate. When trying to install
Mate on a Devuan Ascii (using the Debian install commands) I run into a
dependency hell of unmet dependencies.
On 12/06/16 12:21, KatolaZ wrote:
On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 06:35:11AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
[cut]
There's a real question here for us, and for Linux in general.
How *do* we deal with secure boot? I am terrified of buying a new
machine because I'm afraid I won't get to install anything o
On 25/06/16 15:25, Steve Litt wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2016 18:20:19 +0930
Arthur Marsh wrote:
The creeping continues.
How difficult is it to repackage samba-libs without libsystemd0?
Arthur.
My only Windows computer gets fired up less than two hours per month,
so I have no need for Samba. I'
On 25/06/16 17:34, Steve Litt wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2016 15:27:54 +0100
Rowland Penny wrote:
It is probably easier than that, the Samba 'configure' code has a
'--without-systemd' switch.
Just need to alter debian/rules etc
Rowland
On 26/06/16 16:55, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
Didier Kryn writes:
Yet I would prefer if there was a --with-systemd option
There is. Autoconf provides -with and -without options in pairs.
and the default was without :-)
I suppose the default is to probe for presence and use if present, it
On 30/06/16 22:58, Daniel Reurich wrote:
Hi Enrico,
Do you think it's neccesary to remove all trace from the source, or is
it sufficient to just change the build flags to so it builds without
systemd?
No, it isn't neccesary.
Did you find systemd hangovers that aren't properly handled by the
HA-Ha, very funny, for a distro that is supposed to be giving us
choices, you have only one choice when it comes to installing Devuan,
you now have to use torrent. Now this wouldn't normally be a problem,
but then your choice is further narrowed down to having to download 10GB
via torrent or no
On 09/07/16 09:54, KatolaZ wrote:
On Sat, Jul 09, 2016 at 08:55:06AM +0100, Rowland Penny wrote:
HA-Ha, very funny, for a distro that is supposed to be giving us choices,
you have only one choice when it comes to installing Devuan, you now have to
use torrent. Now this wouldn't normally
Hi, over on the Samba mailing list, somebody asked what '--with-systemd'
was for. It has now degenerated into a discussion on how to get systemd
to start the 'samba' deamon, after approx 50 posts on the subject, the
discussion is still going on.
I thought that they said systemd was better than
Who do have to speak to to get this fixed ?
If you install Samba, you get 4.1.17, this Samba branch is EOL and it is
a security risk, this is why 4.2.0 is in debian security.
If you go here:
http://amprolla.devuan.org/merged/dists/jessie-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages
amongst everythin
On 20/07/16 11:44, Jaromil wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016, fsmithred wrote:
On 07/19/2016 06:10 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
Saying libsystemd0 'does something' merely because higher-layer GNOME
code probed it for a function and then decided to do or not do something
based on what it found (my high-confid
On 20/07/16 12:11, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 22:48:20 +1200, Daniel wrote in message
<578f56f4.6060...@centurion.net.nz>:
Hi Rowland,
We have a bug in amprolla that prevents all parts of the 4.2 version
from being available so the install fails.
Add Debians jessie security repo
On 20/07/16 12:51, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 20/07/2016 12:51, Rowland Penny a écrit :
libsystemd0 doesn't run anything, it just provides code.
Funny! What does this code "do". Is it just returning dummy
values without doing anythig more? I have doubt
On 20/07/16 14:10, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:15:27 +0100, Rowland wrote in message
<578f5d4f.2020...@gmail.com>:
On 20/07/16 12:11, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 22:48:20 +1200, Daniel wrote in message
<578f56f4.6060...@centurion.net.nz>:
Hi Rowland,
We have a bug
On 28/07/16 19:37, Rick Moen wrote:
It would be pretty much normal and expected for the Debian Project. It
has always made it pretty obvious that it's a community of developers
who run it to serve their own perceived needs. And that's pretty much
inevitable, given its parliamentary structure an
So, a user was complaining over on the Samba mailing list, that the
Samba wiki page about creating a new AD DC wasn't much use with fedora.
I set up fedora 24 and tried to give it a fixed ip (part of which was
removing networkmanager), set everything up and rebooted, I then found
I couldn't conne
On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 09:59:16 +0200
tigges wrote:
> Hi, can you provide a link?
>
> I did only find about "systemd mounts /sys read-only".
>
> I want to share this infomation with our company administrators, to
> ensure that we won't switch to systemd..
>
> Thanks
>
This is what I found :
OK, I was trying to get dhcp to put this line into resolv.conf:
option timeout:2 attempts:4
This entails creating a small script in /etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/
called 'resolvoptions'
It doesn't work, I finally tracked the problem down to bug in
/sbin/dhclient-script.
In the script ther
One of my servers crashed because of a motherboard problem, but, as
luck had it, there was something on the HD I was working on and I
hadn't fully backed up.
I stuck another motherboard in and started up the machine again, up it
came, after fsck'ing the HD and everything worked, apart from the
ne
On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 11:45:07 -0600
Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * On 2016 06 Nov 10:21 -0600, Rowland Penny wrote:
>
> > Why, oh why, did systemd-udevd rename eth0 to eth1
>
> As much as I dislike SD, as other have also mentioned, it is not
> directly to blame in this ca
On Mon, 7 Nov 2016 09:21:29 +0100
Giovanni Rapagnani wrote:
> On 06/11/16 17:40, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 17:14:39 +0100, Giovanni wrote in message
> > <5be642ae-c983-3ee3-db68-be1e7657a...@ideanet.be>:
> >
> >> On 06/11/16 15:20, KatolaZ wrote:
> >>> On Sun, Nov 06, 2016 at 02:
On Mon, 7 Nov 2016 10:38:08 +0100
Edward Bartolo wrote:
> This is one important reason why Devuan should have invested effort
> into setting up a forum that uses an interface many would use readily.
> I suggested phpBB like forums.debian.net. The reason given for not
> choosing phpBB, as I unders
On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 23:04:18 +0100
Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA512
>
> Just for your amusement or your seriousness, have a look at the most
> recent gaffe of debian systemd people Biebl. #845480.
>
> The ignorance of that guy has no limit. :-(
>
> In the
On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 09:29:30 +0100 (CET)
k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> Katola2:
> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 07:20:34AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> > > Am So den 27. Nov 2016 um 23:47 schrieb Rowland Penny:
> > > > I still don't understand why you cannot mount /us
On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 04:40:58 -0600
hal wrote:
> KatolaZ wrote on 12/05/2016 04:14 PM:
> >
> > Hence, /var/lib/iptables/ seems indeed the perfect place to keep
> > (different possible sets of) iptables rules.
> >
>
> I would respectfully disagree here only because I've come to
> appreciate havin
On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 17:45:58 +0100 (CET)
k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> Steve Litt:
> > On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 13:13:02 +0100
> > hellekin wrote:
> > > On 11/15/2016 08:43 AM, hellekin wrote:
> > > > for the third moment of its research-action vector on SMALL
> > > > SINGULARITIES, Dyne:β×λ is organizing
On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 11:26:48 -0600 (CST)
ja...@beau.org wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 17:45:58 +0100 (CET)
> > k...@aspodata.se wrote:
>
> > No they are not, they are talking a load of b
> > Why not just say something in clear English ??
>
> They're going to put money towards something t
On Sun, 1 Jan 2017 14:11:27 -0800
Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk):
>
> > What do /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/nssswitch.conf have in them ?
> > Though to be honest, other than the systems I have BIND running on,
> > DNS resolution is something of a black box to me.
On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 13:31:32 +0100
Jaromil wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Jan 2017, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
> > > we did open Devuan's "community group" on Loomio to experiment
> > > with https://www.loomio.org/g/aZupNlWS
> >
> > How's the experiment been so far?
>
> still have to start the first expe
On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 20:03:57 -0500
Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > On a happier note I have just bought another motorbike, a 1967 LE
> > Velocette and it is much more fun than anything to do with software!
>
> I understand they have a systemd mod for that bike so that when the
> chain gets dry, it ta
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 20:34:49 +1000
Tom wrote:
> Both slim and rsyslog are uninstallable on ascii. Thankfully I have
> rsyslog still installed from jessie, but I accidentally uninstalled
> slim and now can't re-install it. Wha'ts involved in updating package
> dependencies to get these (and othe
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 22:38:54 +1000
Tom Cassidy wrote:
> FWIW, I've joined a Devuan machine to a Windows AD domain with
> samba/winbind and have no problems logging in with a domain user from
> slim when properly setup. I'll admit it's not as nice as lightdm in
> that it doesn't show a list of pre
On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:29:20 -0400
zap wrote:
> I agree with you both, gnome 3 is crap. GTK3 I know little of, but,
> Gnome 3 just is confusing and seems like something windows would do...
>
> The only thing that is related to gnome that I use, is mate. which is
> based off of gnome 2.
>
Mate
On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 09:54:27 -0500
dev wrote:
>
> On 07/03/2017 09:36 AM, Evilham wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
>
> >
> > (Maybe we should file a bug on bugs.devuan.org + bugs.debian.org +
> > shadow repo against shadow?)
> >
>
> Seems pretty straightforward to patch chkname.c feel free to includ
On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 16:39:03 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> What's the official way to disable a service in sysvinit? In this case
> I want to disable sshd so I can put it in runit.
>
> I know I could rename /etc/rc5.d/S02sshd to zS02sshd, but I seem to
> remember there's some more offici
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 16:17:40 -0500
goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2017-07-10 15:58, zap wrote:
> >
> > though actually, one other problem in ascii exists... libsystemd0.
> >
> > I want that removed at some point, but I can wait. in time it shall
> > happen I am sure.
> >
>
> It will only happen
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 00:29:51 +0200
Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:35:27PM +0100, Rowland Penny wrote:
> > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 16:17:40 -0500 goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> >
> > > ascii,samba-libs
> >
> > Don't understand why this
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 23:23:59 +0200
Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 05:28:39PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT
> consult wrote:
> > To be more practical: I'd suggest spinning off a (distro agnostic)
> > non-systemd maintenance project. We'll collect repos w/
> > depotterization patc
On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 18:55:21 +
Miroslav Rovis wrote:
> On 170716-13:18-0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> > On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 15:59:35 +
> > Miroslav Rovis wrote:
> >
> > > Can't trust modern translations of Bible, actually so much
> > > undeserving of trust that they verge on disgusting..
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:32:58 +
"Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" wrote:
> On 18.07.2017 07:48, Fungi4All wrote:
>
> > Jus'b'cause lots of you want to go to bed with Poetering does not
> > make this a gay distribution
>
> Is Lennart a man at all ? :o
>
Look, you have been asked polit
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:51:48 +
Miroslav Rovis wrote:
> ( some --such as missing-- quotes manually reinserted )
Please stop with the rambling posts that make my eyes glaze over. they
also have little to do with Devuan.
I am beginning to understand why Gentoo banned you, you just do not
know
On Tue, 01 Aug 2017 18:15:37 +
su...@firemail.cc wrote:
> Explain exactly how I was "wasting" your time. You responded with
> derision and mockery when I brought up laches; as if it was no issue.
..
.
ARRRGGG is this guy for real, can he not take a hint ?
IF not, here it is
n't keep changing their mailing list names,
especial just by reversing the letters. Also if they keep getting
banned from one mailing list after another, you have to ask why.
Rowland Penny
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On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 03:32:31 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
>
> > That wouldn't be true of me. Back when I was an Xfce user, I defined
> > Xfce as:
> >
> > * Able to use multiple panels
> > * Able to config the panels via right click
> > * Kinda twitchy
On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 04:01:50 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Rowland Penny (rpe...@samba.org):
>
> > Rick, Steve has just as much a right to a point of view as you do.
> > In fact, you both seem to be saying the same thing, just in
> > different ways.
>
> I'
On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 04:15:58 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Rowland Penny (rpe...@samba.org):
>
> > Certainly:
> >
> > [quote]
> > Steve, please stop helping. As you often do, you are just adding
> > noise. [/quote]
>
> I remain unclear on how poli
On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 16:27:26 +0200
Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 01:38:00AM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote:
> > We discussed a few weeks back in a dev meeting whether or not to
> > revert to jessie like naming scheme for ethernet interfaces by
> > default.
> >
> > The eudev package
On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 17:18:13 +0200
Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 03:45:08PM +0100, Rowland Penny wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 16:27:26 +0200
> > Adam Borowski wrote:
> [my snip:]
> > > * any renames to "eth0"/"wlan0" are a losi
On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 09:09:11 -0400
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 03:52:44PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> >
> > Note that a similar problem with disks has been solved
> > elegantly by referencing disks by their uuid or label
> > in /etc/fstab. Maybe /etc/network/interface could
bian/Systemd, not
> only in software but also in community.
>
>
Totally agree with the sentiments of the above post.
Can we please keep to posts that are relevant to Devuan.
If you want to have philosophical discussions about Open source, can
you please do it some
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 00:12:02 +1000
Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 07.09.17 14:05, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> > ROMB is the ROM Bypass and that too is builtin the PCH chip:
>
> Erik
Excuse me, but can you lot not take a hint ???
Please take this discussion somewhere else, it has NOTHING to do wi
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 16:32:42 +0200
Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 11:51:46PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote:
I have tried asking nicely
WILL YOU SHUTUP!!!
I don't care about your drivel, it has nothing directly to do with
Devuan
Rowland
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 17:12:25 +0200
Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Quote: "Please take this discussion somewhere else, it has NOTHING to
> do with Devuan"
>
> This discussion has taught me that Intel CPUs from 2008 onwards also
> come with GRATIS but QUESTIONABLE functionalities, that many including
> my
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 01:23:29 +1000
Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 07.09.17 15:42, Rowland Penny wrote:
> > On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 16:32:42 +0200
> > Adam Borowski wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 11:51:46PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> >
> >
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 22:09:08 +0200
Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 17:03:47 +0100, Antony wrote in message
> <201709181703.47988.antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it>:
>
> > On Monday 18 September 2017 at 15:54:16, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:35:24 +0100, Anton
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 19:43:54 +0100
Dave Turner wrote:
>
> Also, 'su' is just wrong, don't use it, always use sudo, and if you
> can find a decent .deb of OpenBSD 'doas' ported to linux use that, it
> is even better!
>
Just because you think using 'su' is wrong, doesn't make it wrong, it
is jus
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 21:18:41 +0100
Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
> Rowland Penny writes:
> > This is all down to the sysadmins decision and I thought one of the
> > main ideas behind Devuan is that nothing is forced on the sysadmin.
>
> Systemd isn't forced on you. LOTS of
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 21:41:49 +0100
Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
> Rowland Penny writes:
> > Please stop being obtuse, You know very well what I meant.
>
> I do indeed, and I think you're wrong. Devuan has taken a no-systemd
> decision, that's all. That isn't
On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 10:04:24 +0200
Narcis Garcia wrote:
> Current Mate is pretty different than current Gnome.
> It's like somebody asking for Windows GUI and responding with Windows
> 3.11-like GUI.
>
>
Windows 3.11-like would be 'Windows for workgroups' and Mate is nothing
like 'Windows for
On Fri, 10 Nov 2017 10:17:39 -0500
Fungi4All wrote:
> Sorry for CCing but if this does not get to the list and you do
> respond please include it.
>
> > From: picama...@gmail.com
> > To: dng@lists.dyne.org
> >
> > After replacing whatever init comes with the distro [salix, void,
> > devuan], wit
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 12:40:02 +0100
John Hughes wrote:
> On 14/11/17 12:32, Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> > On Tue 14 November 2017 10:42:48 John Hughes wrote:
> >> Those who do not understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it,
> >> poorly
> > funny you quote that in this particular context. Seems to
On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 15:54:39 +0100
John Hughes wrote:
> On 17/11/17 15:48, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote:
> > Thus, systemd represents a code base of about 455,000 to 833,000
> > lines spread over 2201 files.
> >
> > The main problem that systemd tries to solve is correct ordering of
> > startup scrip
On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 16:34:31 +0100
John Hughes wrote:
> On 17/11/17 16:14, Rowland Penny wrote:
> > On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 15:54:39 +0100
> > John Hughes wrote:
> >
> >> systemd, like init(1), doesn't just run on boot -- it's running
> >> continuou
On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 15:49:51 +
KatolaZ wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 03:39:45PM +0000, Rowland Penny wrote:
> > On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 16:34:31 +0100
> > John Hughes wrote:
> >
> > > On 17/11/17 16:14, Rowland Penny wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 17 N
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:01:17 +0100
John Hughes wrote:
> On 19/11/17 15:10, Jaromil wrote:
> > Following up after the conversation on redis, when we had the
> > elected Debian leader chiming in here to defend his position and
> > keep deleting init.d scripts, I still believe this is again "even
>
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 14:48:49 +0100
John Hughes wrote:
>
> No, no systemctl commands are needed, systemd-rc-local-generator will
> enable rc-local.service if /etc/rc.local is executable, which it is
> by default on Debian Stretch (AKA Debian 9).
>
Yes, but will 'systemd-rc-local-generator' exi
Hi, a guy has just asked a question on the samba mailing list about
apparmor and Samba, it seems that last week, apparmor became a
dependency for the kernel on Buster, because of systemd.
Can I take it this dependency will be removed in Beowulf ?
Rowland
_
Not so much about upgrading, but afterwards ;-)
I have upgraded to Ascii, but:
cat /etc/devuan_version
jessie
And:
cat /etc/issue
Debian GNU/Linux 9 \n \l
The latest version of base-files seems to be installed:
dpkg-query -W -f='${Conffiles}\n' '*' | grep devuan_version
/etc/devuan_version
On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 16:32:05 +
KatolaZ wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 04:27:54PM +, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > > 90e301dc00303665914b0d64d55d0457 /etc/devuan_version
> > >
> > > But it says 'jessie' and what is the 'obsolete' all about ?
> > >
> >
> >
> > Please hold on on th
On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 16:57:49 +
KatolaZ wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 04:53:17PM +0000, Rowland Penny wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > >
> > > deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/ ascii-proposed main
> > >
> > > ;)
> > >
> > &
On Fri, 01 Dec 2017 23:10:10 +0100
Svante Signell wrote:
> On Fri, 2017-12-01 at 21:55 +, Olav Selseng Vestreim wrote:
> > On Friday 1. December 2017 11.10.57 Svante Signell wrote:
> > > Hi again,
> > >
> > > This is a last warning. If you are continuing to not quote
> > > previous mails,
>
On Sat, 02 Dec 2017 00:25:16 +0100
Svante Signell wrote:
> On Fri, 2017-12-01 at 22:55 +0000, Rowland Penny wrote:
>
> > I hope they do not learn from you, your attitude is atrocious.
> > Eduardo has a valid problem and perhaps he isn't replying in exactly
> > the
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