[DNG] How do I install Devuan NOW

2016-07-28 Thread terryc
After looking before and following the instructions there, I've upgraded Debian wheezy to Debian Jessie and apparently that isn't how you do it now. So what am I supposed to do now? I'm looking for a set of migration steps that don't involve blowing stuff away and loading an iso. On a side

Re: [DNG] When 128?

2018-06-20 Thread terryc
On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:16:28 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > There was a discussion of whether to retain 32 bit, and that brought > up another question in my mind: When will we have 128 bit computing? Give off. Its taken 40 years for me to be finally able to buy a 64bit computer. I want to be able to

Re: [DNG] [OT] Cannot install wine32 on ASCII.

2018-08-18 Thread terryc
On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 14:12:54 +0200 Edward Bartolo wrote: > Maybe, apt-cache depends can shed some light. It seems wine32 depends > on libwine:i386 and the latter breaks wine32. There is a fix-missing on one of apt/apt-get/aptitude/? , I forget which. It MAY fix stuff, but it could just break

Re: [DNG] rsync variant

2018-08-26 Thread terryc
On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 08:39:29 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > > And if you want to see the differences, you may be interested in > > rdiff. Haven't used it myself but sound (and looks) like it fits > > your bill. > > That's just what I thought... but the man page I have for rdiff says > nothing

Re: [DNG] Migrate from Debian Wheezy to Devuan ASCII

2018-09-01 Thread terryc
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:58:58 +0100 Mark Hindley wrote: > Hello, > > I have an old and venerable headless system that runs Debian Wheezy. > Now Wheezy is EOL I need to upgrade without pulling in systemd and > dbus. Devuan is the obvious choice. > > I can't find any specific instructions or

Re: [DNG] OT: firefox, privacy etc.

2018-09-05 Thread terryc
On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 03:34:27 +0200 (CEST) wrote: > how an i possibly get local storage of login information to work > again in firefox? A history of what changes you made/have occurred might give people a clue to give you information that is a bit more useful than change your hair part. In my

[DNG] NFS failure New ascii to upgraded ascii.

2018-07-04 Thread terryc
I have a newish system that had devuan-Jessie installed and then recently upgrade to Devuan-Ascii. It has been acting as a NFS reliabnle from its installation some months ago. The NFS server was a Debian-stretch system that has just been upgraded to Devuan-Ascii. For some reason, the client now

[DNG] Static Net failure, wsaRe: NFS failure New ascii to upgraded ascii.

2018-07-05 Thread terryc
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 11:23:49 +0100 ael wrote: > On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 08:08:59PM +1000, terryc wrote: > > FWIW, the migration borked the static networking and shoved it over > > to dhcp. > > That's horrible :-) Caught me by surprise as due to mail server security

Re: [DNG] NFS failure New ascii to upgraded ascii.

2018-07-05 Thread terryc
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 08:29:40 +0100 Rowland Penny wrote: > From what has been posted, is the NFS server actually running ? If > >it > is, is it possibly hanging ? Is a firewall or selinux or apparmor in > the way ? Argh, solved, 101. Another thing the migration to Ascii borked. I'll have to

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-08 Thread terryc
On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 15:52:48 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > Something I haven't done but maybe a kernel source package can be > opened to expose what is in there? Something way over my head. I'll admit it has become complicated and it is now a while since I've compiled my own kernel from sources,

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread terryc
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 05:17:07 +0200 arne wrote: > > I think Devuan devs have more important things to do that looking > > for a pin in a haystack. > > > > > Alessandro > > I totally agree. > > Hard to find that pin. Errr, try opening your eyes. Since the floppies came out, there have

[DNG] Plasyonlinux; is anyone successfully using it?

2018-07-07 Thread terryc
As per subject, is anyone sucessfully using PlayOnLinux? My POl installation on Debian wheezy/stretch was stuffed due to graphics related problems and I was only able to fix some basic stuff prior to upgrading to Devuan-Ascii. Now I'd like to get it working again and it would motivate if other

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread terryc
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 04:02:23 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 07/09/2018 03:53 AM, KatolaZ wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 03:42:40AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > > > [cut] > > > >> > >> > >> Well some of those kernel experts are saying you need to check > >> your kernel. Also how you

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread terryc
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 04:09:14 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > There's a big difference, I'm not the one trying to stop people from > taking a interest an their distros security and you are. No more > reply's to you unless you show a interest in helping find malware in > this distro. 1: I already

[DNG] Troll Alert Re: A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread terryc
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 03:42:40 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > Well some of those kernel experts are saying you need to check your > kernel. Also how you respond to this thread speaks volumes. Well how about shouting: YOU ARE A TROLL! Or is you excuse for your stream of crap a total inability to

[DNG] Troll alert Re: A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread terryc
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 03:53:01 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > You've been showing contempt and disrespect for me since my first > post in this group, never helpful. No, I'm the guy that is doing that. Every one else is being polite. > Why do you want to stand in the > way of people in this group

[DNG] He's Baaaack! Re: A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread terryc
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 13:06:39 +0100 (BST) Jim Jackson wrote: > On Mon, 9 Jul 2018, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > > On 07/09/2018 03:53 AM, KatolaZ wrote: > > > What you can do is look for malware, do some investigative > > research, just educate yourself, what I know is out there for all > > to

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread terryc
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 13:34:44 +0200 KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 09:30:48PM +1000, terryc wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 04:09:14 -0700 > > Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > > > > There's a big difference, I'm not the one trying to stop people > > >

Re: [DNG] [BACK ON LIST] [OFFLIST] Re: A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread terryc
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 13:49:44 +0100 Rowland Penny wrote: > Yes, it would be nice, but in the meantime, I think 'Jimmy' should > have his posts moderated. AOL!, which means +1 for the kiddies who don't know the historical reference. I agree entirely with Rowland's post. Even down the pub(bar)

[DNG] Woops, apologies all roudns Re: He's Baaaack! Re: A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread terryc
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 14:50:55 +0100 (BST) Jim Jackson wrote: > Dear Terry, > > Oh dear, just because I have the same initials and first name :-( > It really is embarrasing. Woops, part of brain brain did twigg it was just Jim, but rest of it didn't follow to further check. My apologies for not

Re: [DNG] probably SOLVED: is there a problem with package signing?

2018-07-09 Thread terryc
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 09:45:36 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > As far as I know, I am now using only devun repositories. I was of > course using Debian repositories on this system before I upgraded to > Devuan. > > Yesterday I noticed some extraneous filed in etc/apt: > > sources.list.etch64 >

[DNG] 1,000(?) eyes security Re: A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread terryc
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 16:48:34 +0200 Alessandro Selli wrote: > "Since the beginning of the git era (the 2.6.11 release in 2005), a > total of 15,637 developers have contributed to the Linux kernel; > those developers worked for a minimum of 1,513 companies." > > And this lists only those

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread terryc
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 07:59:11 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > KatolaZ, I came looking for help. Reading a linux kernel requires > knowledge of software engineering, I don't have that knowledge or > experience, even if I open kernel source I would have no idea what I > was looking at. I just want

[DNG] Seeding Torrents for Devuan

2018-03-14 Thread terryc
Is anyone actually seeding any torrent for Devuan? When the devuan-jessie-beta came out, I attempted to obtain it via torrent, but it never arrived. Similar situation the other day when, having spare hardware to finally set up a devuan beastie, attempting to obtain the devuan-jessie torrents has

Re: [DNG] printing in a D-Bus free system

2018-03-14 Thread terryc
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 03:25:44 -0400 Menelaos Maglis wrote: > > I use hplip and yes dbus is installed. > > > I run a very minimal ascii/ceres system and following the trail of > things dependent on dbus - well, unless somebody knows better it looks > like we are stuck with

Re: [DNG] Seeding Torrents for Devuan

2018-03-14 Thread terryc
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 22:37:40 -0500 goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > Are you saying they are not working? For me on the East Coast of Australia, the answer was yes. My post was to check that at least some one was sharing it via torrent-check. Since I was able to directly download CD1, I've been able

Re: [DNG] Used *and* free hardware (was: Re: The FSF seems to have finally sold out)

2018-03-17 Thread terryc
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 02:02:16 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > In other words, these are now museum pieces, not computers. Use them > with their original software to do what they did so well back in the > day. Drive em around on Sunday afternoon and show them off, but leave >

[DNG] OT Re: Used *and* free hardware

2018-03-18 Thread terryc
On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 00:20:58 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 21:23:15 -1000 > Joel Roth wrote: > > I just got an assortment of electrolytics from amazon for > > around $15, 300 pieces! > > How do you solder those puppies onto a

[DNG] OT Re: Used *and* free hardware (was: Re: The FSF seems to have finally sold out)

2018-03-18 Thread terryc
On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 21:23:15 -1000 Joel Roth <jo...@pobox.com> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 05:05:30PM +1100, terryc wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 02:02:16 -0400 > > Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote: > > > > > In other words, these

[DNG] OT Re: Used *and* free hardware

2018-03-18 Thread terryc
On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 01:07:07 -0400 "taii...@gmx.com" wrote: > On 03/19/2018 12:24 AM, Daniel Reurich wrote: > > > They're all thru-hole and can be done with a fine tipped soldering > > iron and cheap plunger type solder sucker..☺ > Or a solder braid :0 > > I fixed a screen

Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?

2018-10-21 Thread terryc
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 13:07:19 +0200 Miroslav Skoric wrote: > On 10/17/2018 03:18 PM, terryc wrote: I'm going to start off by saying I'm unable to help you with your quest. In fact, my answers are basically like the local who is asked by a tourist "How do you get to blah-blah f

Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?

2018-10-17 Thread terryc
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 13:19:33 +0200 Miroslav Skoric wrote: > Hi all, > > I recently installed Devuan Jessie on a computer for presentations > via large TV. And that machine is also directly wired in a small LAN > to another box that runs some old Ubuntu (probably 12.04 or so, it is > also just

Re: [DNG] systemd in sane-backends

2018-11-03 Thread terryc
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 10:28:44 +0100 aitor wrote: > Hi all, > > libsystemd-dev is present in the packaging of sane-backends in both > jessie and ascii. As far as i know, the systemd utility in sane is > useful only in the case of network printers. Am i wrong? I thought SANE was net worked

[DNG] Online DNS & Bind Refeences.

2018-11-06 Thread terryc
1. What do people recommend as online sources for Bind configuration these days. 2. what programs do you recommend for checking the configuration files. LS; My antique hardware that was the nameserver and web for the LAN suffered a motherboard failure and I need to configure a replacement

Re: [DNG] static /dev: was /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-19 Thread terryc
On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 15:51:39 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 12:29:33 +0100 (CET) > k...@aspodata.se wrote: . > > I use a classic static /dev, and the only problem I have seen is > > with usb devices (apart from keyboards and mice i.e.). > > I might want to

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question

2018-11-22 Thread terryc
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 10:10:20 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: But > the part of the OS (which is managed by dpkg) better stays on one > single partition. IME, absolutely nothing in real life works that way. Do you dump all your clothes into one big bin or store them by say type? Do you store all your

[DNG] Is Didier another troll? Re: /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question

2018-11-22 Thread terryc
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 18:32:53 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 22/11/2018 à 17:02, KatolaZ a écrit : > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 04:28:55PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > >> Le 22/11/2018 à 13:42, terryc a écrit : > >>> IME, absolutely nothing in real life works that w

[DNG] Rudeness can be productive. Re: /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question

2018-11-22 Thread terryc
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 16:05:37 -0600 goli...@dyne.org wrote: > On 2018-11-22 14:55, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > On 22/11/18 at 16:25, Didier Kryn wrote: > >> Le 22/11/2018 à 13:25, Alessandro Selli a écrit : > >>> chown -R a-w /bin > >>> chown -R a-w /sbin > >>> chown -R a-w /lib > >> > >>   

[DNG] Solved.Re: 2nd User cannot create icons/launcher-XFCE

2019-01-26 Thread terryc
Turn out to be very old WM configuration files from the ancient history of this "host". When removed and rebooted the problem went away. Whilst the system was a new installation, the inherited user files contained historial data. On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 10:36:02 +1100 terryc wrote: &

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-07 Thread terryc
On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 22:05:39 +0100 Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 07/03/19 at 21:22, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > > Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 6:49 am: > >>   Next improvement would be using current commands (ip and iw) in > >> place of the obsolete and deprecated ones, i.e. ifconfig

Re: [DNG] 2nd User cannot create icons/launcher-XFCE

2019-02-12 Thread terryc
On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 06:37:29 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 10:36:02AM +1100, terryc wrote: > > I've just assembled a new machine and intalled Devuan Ascii > > from devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_dvd-1.iso with update and upgrade from > > pkgmanager. > >

Re: [DNG] xdm broken?

2019-02-15 Thread terryc
On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 07:39:25 +1100 Ozi Traveller via Dng wrote: > Hi > > I have installed xdm, and it starts when I boot up, but doesn't > start xorg when I login. > > Has anyone got this working? I would be interested to know how if > anyone has. Yep and which X did you install? xdm is just

[DNG] 2nd User cannot create icons/launcher-XFCE

2019-01-25 Thread terryc
I've just assembled a new machine and intalled Devuan Ascii from devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_dvd-1.iso with update and upgrade from pkgmanager. The desktop is XFCE4 and the first installation user can create desktop icons/launchers and have then run/start, but the added second user can not achieve

Re: [DNG] I do not work menu options, how to solve this problem?

2019-05-21 Thread terryc
On Tue, 21 May 2019 14:42:06 -0400 "Ismael L. Donis Garcia" wrote: > system - administration - users and groups - advanced settings > it does not work. Does not do anything when pressing the button What are you trying to do? Which VM/desktop are you running. Under xfce4 there is no system ->

Re: [DNG] Problem doing apt-get update- Still there.

2019-05-05 Thread terryc
On Sun, 5 May 2019 20:21:47 -0300 Gastón via Dng wrote: > Hello, few weeks ago I had these errors, I asked on the IRC channel > and it turned out that it was some kind of problem of synchronization > of the server to which I was redirected deb.devuan.org. > > If you try to update again, still

[DNG] Upgrade lockedup-How To fix

2019-08-07 Thread terryc
In the midst of removing a package that frequently crashes* and attempting a general package update/upgrade, somehow the package upgrade system has borked something. Specifically it seems to have come about following a sudo apt autoremove where a depreciated image was listed to go. Now I am at

Re: [DNG] Upgrade lockedup-How To fix

2019-08-07 Thread terryc
On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 17:13:50 +1000 "Ralph Ronnquist \(rrq\) via Dng" wrote: > terryc wrote on 7/8/19 4:39 pm: > > In the midst of removing a package that frequently crashes* and > > attempting a general package update/upgrade, somehow the package > > upgr

[DNG] Solved Re: Upgrade lockedup-How To fix

2019-08-07 Thread terryc
On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 17:13:50 +1000 "Ralph Ronnquist \(rrq\) via Dng" wrote: ...snip.. > > Maybe there's a spurious back-quote in /etc/default/grub ? Bingo. Thanks all who replied. The successive posts jogged my brain to look again and the May-2019 date reminded me that I had actually

Re: [DNG] reinstalling GRUB2 - Verion

2019-07-24 Thread terryc
On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 10:45:03 -0400 Haines Brown wrote: > I've no idea what's going on. I was told to use the grub2-install > command, but on my system (Ascii) there is only > /usr/sbin/grub-install. It seems my grub-install command can be run > by user, but not by root becasue root has no path

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-27 Thread terryc
On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 10:19:32 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: >     Imagine a computer with no user, just root, and an empty /home > directory. You plug in your USB disk and, automatically, your disk is > mounted under /home /and you become a user of this laptop/ - no need > to have root priviledge

Re: [DNG] frozen messages from dng-bounces

2019-12-16 Thread terryc
Just my 2c. On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 07:51:40 -0500 Haines Brown wrote: > I periodically get frozen messages alerts from dng-bounces. Sometimes > several in a day; sometimes every few days. The time of the message > is random. That corresponds with the frequency of messages to the list. > I'm

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII point release

2019-10-22 Thread terryc
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 08:46:47 +0200 Joril via Dng wrote: > On 22/10/19 06:00, . fsmithred via Dng wrote: > > The Devuan ASCII 2.1 point release has begun. The installer isos, > > desktop-live and minimal-live isos are currently available for > > download here: > >

[DNG] How do you remove colour/color text from Vi/vim?

2020-02-25 Thread terryc
This annoyance has crept into my system some time ago and I can not figure out how to banish it. I've looked through all the personal and sysem config files and can not find a switch to tern off text colourisation. All I want or need vi for is a simple black text on white(grey actually) editor.

[DNG] Solved Re: How do you remove colour/color text from Vi/vim?

2020-02-26 Thread terryc
On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:15:08 +1100 terryc wrote: > This annoyance has crept into my system some time ago and I can not > figure out how to banish it. > > I've looked through all the personal and system config files and can > not find a switch to tern off text colourisation.

Re: [DNG] FF now defaults to DNS-over-HTTPS for US

2020-03-04 Thread terryc
On Wed, 4 Mar 2020 21:31:49 +0100 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > Are you sure that femails would not use slightly more elaborate color > names? Maybe it's just a misunderstanding and "grey" is used for the > more redish tones an "gray" for a more greeish tones? All > indistinguishable for mail

Re: [DNG] Tried Debian Stretch with systemd out of constrainsts

2020-01-11 Thread terryc
On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 20:18:09 + Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > First of all thanks for replying. It seems the driver is installed > according to usb-devices. The interesting stanza is the following: > > T: Bus=07 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 6 Spd=480 MxCh= 0 > D: Ver=

[DNG] OT? Who decides Re: Result of the Debian vote 'General Resolution: Init systems and systemd'

2019-12-30 Thread terryc
On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 15:46:51 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 15:10:46 +1100 > terryc wrote: > > > On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 23:11:16 +1100 > > Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > > > > > Debian needs to somehow find a way to inclu

Re: [DNG] Result of the Debian vote 'General Resolution: Init systems and systemd'

2019-12-29 Thread terryc
On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 23:11:16 +1100 Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hi, > > On 28/12/19 9:03 pm, Alexis PM via Dng wrote: > > A mediocre result, neither good nor bad. The best option for people > > who don't want to use systemd, Option 6

Re: [DNG] Again, again: DMARC is a no-win problem for mailing lists

2019-12-29 Thread terryc
On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 13:01:25 + Mark Rousell wrote: > On 28/12/2019 07:01, Steve Litt wrote: > > So, if we insist on assisting Yahoo, Gmail, Hotmail, and their ilk, > > and all their users, by incorporating DMARC > > Really, it's surely not a matter of willingly helping them. It's more > a

[DNG] HW: Which brand and model of lapto have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-08 Thread terryc
This is a hardware question. Which brand and model(s) of laptop have people successfully installed devuan onto? How difficult was it? Thank You In Advance. The long story; I finally have a need to purchase my own personal laptop and have spent the last few days searching for such a beastie that

Re: [DNG] Is anybody using Discord for virtual get-togethers in Devuan?

2020-03-20 Thread terryc
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 08:38:32 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Is anybody using Discord in Devuan for virtual get-togethers? Yes, in the sense that I can join such for various groups like games, etc where someone else has paid for the server. Best I've managed is to follow the text chat and swap

Re: [DNG] AMD Ryzen?

2020-03-20 Thread terryc
On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 18:24:27 +0100 Antony Stone wrote: > Hi. > > Does anyone here have experience of running Devuan on AMD Ryzen CPUs? Aps, a bit slow. We had a pair of these; processor : 3 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 23 model : 17 model name : AMD

Re: [DNG] Anyone installed a jitsi server on Devuan?

2020-03-22 Thread terryc
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 17:55:25 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Has anyone installed a jitsi server on Devuan? I need to maintain a > jitsi server in these days of virtual life. Err, yes, it "installed on the system" and nmap now lists a number of extra services; 5222/tcp open xmpp-client

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-17 Thread terryc
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 21:29:51 -0400 Dan Purgert wrote: > I guess what I'm trying to ask is what would be so bad about a "RISC-V > Hobby Linux Machine(tm)" only offering these "older" peripheral > connectivity interfaces in interests of being inexpensive and also > preserving end-user freedom? >

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-13 Thread terryc
On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 11:13:02 -0500 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > A link to this rant was posted on FDN yesterday. I had never heard of > Luke Smith before and was not particularly impressed with either his > presentational style or his bemoaning the death of white, male > privilege but . . . I

Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-08-29 Thread terryc
On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 16:35:01 -0500 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > PS. There is no critical data on this disk because I always keep > multiple backups. But it would be nice to have that drive functioning > in some capacity. The only other suggestion is 'the put it in the freezer trick' which may

Re: [DNG] Xorg stopped working after upgrade to Beowulf

2020-09-21 Thread terryc
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 19:36:33 -0700 Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: > I have pretty much decided that there is no way to upgrade my Debian > system to Buster and keep it usable without systemd.  Since I am set > up for multiboot, including Devuan Ascii, I decided to upgrade that > to Beowulf and see

[DNG] Mail processing; Re: OT? Re: ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-23 Thread terryc
On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 12:13:48 -0700 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2020-09-23 12:15, terryc wrote: > > > The norm seems to be to just accept everything and process it, but > > until recently, all my internet services cam with a data charge. So > > for our domain, the easiest &

[DNG] OT? Re: ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-22 Thread terryc
On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 23:55:46 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > Hi, > > > ..devuan to the rescue? Norwegian ISP "Get" is ditching their email > service and pointing their clients to a paid service, which again is > pointing them to Gmail's ad laden services, drawing due scorn. [1] To be brief; It

[DNG] Is t worth the effort for SPF?, DMARC>, DKIM?, etc

2020-09-28 Thread terryc
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 17:20:06 +0200 Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > You can also publish DKIM and SPF records so as to produce > DMARC-aligned authentication for any hosted domain. Users won't > notice any difference. Does anyone have any figures on how effective these methods are? It seems

Re: [DNG] supported ways to control user access to audio/video devices

2020-05-25 Thread terryc
On Mon, 25 May 2020 13:31:49 + dal wrote: > Dear list, > > A round of searching and reading did not give me any usable > explanation of Subj on Devuan. > > More specifically, static assignment of users to the "audio"/"video" > groups is not applicable (on shared, remotely accessible

Re: [DNG] Linux kernel boot causing screen to become unreadable.

2020-10-23 Thread terryc
On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 16:42:53 +0200 Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > Dear All, > > Lately, on an HP Probook 4540s, while booting Devuan Boewulf the > screen becomes completely unreabled with unsynchronized lines of > pixels. Which kernel? Was it recently upgraded? Which video drivers are your

[DNG] Backups for Posterity Re: How to mount NTFS

2020-08-07 Thread terryc
On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 12:19:19 -0400 Haines Brown wrote: > > If the drive is never plugged into a Windows machine, then there is > > no point in it being formatted as NTFS. > > I do not have clients. I'm well past life expectancy, and so I need > to know that my grandchildren can simply plug

[DNG] Recreational Software, was Re: history

2020-08-08 Thread terryc
On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 00:33:00 -0500 John Morris wrote: Snipping the Pol, Para and not mentioning Cap. >Or like people who still run Windows after > decades of failure and breathtaking security flaws, but they just know > the next release is going to be stable and secure. It isn't just

[DNG] [Soln] Update Grub & NFS stops. I'm missing something

2020-07-30 Thread terryc
[Solution] By the time I'd finished crafting the question, I'd managed to solve my problem, but posted the question ans solution anyway asthe fact that it was brought on by an updated for 'grub*' still has me wondering what changed. S.S. Update Grub & NFS stops. I'm missing something sudo mount

Re: [DNG] Fwd: [kbd] [ANNOUNCE] kbd-2.3.0

2020-07-11 Thread terryc
On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 16:14:44 +0200 viverna wrote: Swapping the order of your comments. > Only I think pure console in Linux should be better treated (for > example 16M colors (if framebuffer is enabled it is possible), > support for very large font, better support for SGR parameters in > ANSI

[DNG] FYI, was net-install troubles

2020-07-01 Thread terryc
On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 18:20:19 + Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote: > Hello, > I'm new to the mailing list, but not new to devuan. I've been running > devuan ascii in production for a couple of years. I really like the > product. My system is so much more stable without systemd and all the > bull

Re: [DNG] Configuration of boot drives

2020-06-29 Thread terryc
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 08:18:24 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > Does it determine which MBRs to update by looking at the BIOS 'boot' > flags? As I understand it, the boxen looks at the UEFI(?) for the pointer to which piece of HW carries the initial loader, which then loads "grub" and its

Re: [DNG] no shutdown by pressing power button

2020-06-19 Thread terryc
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 23:49:39 +0200 ippaket via Dng wrote: > HI, > > after the upgrade from ascii to beowulf I can't shutdown my machine > (64bit intel atom) by pressing the power button anymore. > > Any ideas what to do ? I sometimes have to press & hold the power button. YMMV, but in most

[DNG] FWIW Re: Ascii to Beowulf

2020-06-12 Thread terryc
On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 12:49:28 +0200 Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: > Hi all! > > I just upgraded from ascii to beowulf a pretty decent laptop, equipped > with a core i7 and 8GB of RAM. > > I upgraded everything in place: so same desktop environment, same > applications, same hard disk... just

[DNG] Upgrade to Beowulf borks SSH. how to recover.

2020-07-20 Thread terryc
As per subject, an Devuan-ascii headless server has been(?) upgraded to Devuan-beowuff. After reboot I am unable to ssh to the server. It seems the old password option has now been disable and only a public-key option is available .. user@system: ssh remote-server

Re: [DNG] Vdev [ was Re: if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names]

2020-12-25 Thread terryc
On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 12:18:10 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 08:53:53AM -0800, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > On 2020-12-25 10:21, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > Hearing this thread's perplexity, I long for the days of mknod. > > > > But that wouldn't have helped with the

Re: [DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

2020-11-25 Thread terryc
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 16:07:24 -0700 Fred wrote: > Hello, > > I recently upgraded from Debian Jessie to Devuan Beowulf. I tried to > run a program (ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage) which would not run. > ...snip > So, is Beowulf 32 bit or 64 bit? Further to the other answers, if you

Re: [DNG] Firefox and its forks are losing the power of add-ons.

2020-12-03 Thread terryc
On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 09:12:07 +0100 Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > Dear All, > > Lately, I am noticing Waterfox has lost the ability to display my > add-ons, which are AdGuard AdBlocker and NoScript. I had about two > more in the past, but it is becoming increasingly difficult to have > any that

Re: [DNG] godaddy (was Your system is not supported by certbot-auto anymore.)

2020-12-11 Thread terryc
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 19:37:39 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 11:05:22AM -0800, spiralofhope wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 01:00:44 +1100 > > wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > > > > > A good move to switch from godaddy. Doesn’t really matter where > > > you switch to, but

Re: [DNG] Ethernet names revisited

2020-12-13 Thread terryc
On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 14:15:53 +0100 Antony Stone wrote: > Hi. > > I've just installed a couple of Beowulf systems, each of which has > three ethernet interfaces; one on the motherboard, and two on a PCI > card. > > I'm trying to work out how to give those interfaces the names I want; > the

Re: [DNG] Ethernet names revisited

2020-12-13 Thread terryc
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 10:45:56 +0100 Antony Stone wrote: > On Sunday 13 December 2020 at 09:25:24, terryc wrote: > > > Just add the line > > hwaddress mac:add:dress:in:usual:format > > > > to match eth2 & eth3 to the desired card. > > I t

Re: [DNG] problematic mouse driver?

2020-11-17 Thread terryc
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:50:15 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 05:54:45PM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > > I infer from those kind enough to answer that my problem getting > > the mouse to paste what it scanned is not unusual. When the problem > > shows up again I'll try to paste

Re: [DNG] XFCE in Beowulf confuses left and right

2020-11-03 Thread terryc
On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 11:56:33 +0100 kernel panic! wrote: > Update! > > I "dig" through my Backup(s) - Bingo! I found a File *dualmonitor.sh* > > I put it back to/home/$USER/.screenlayout/dualmonitor.sh > > Logout from XFCE, login back nothing happens > > Folder.screenlayout =

[DNG] Downloading from ewetube; was Re: [OT] YouTube archivism targeted

2020-10-30 Thread terryc
On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 19:22:34 -0700 Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: > Sorry, spiralofhope.  I didn't6 mean to send this to you, but to the > list. > > On 10/26/20 11:47 AM, spiralofhope wrote: > > TL;DR: YouTube-dl DMCA > > > > > > > > > > > > The RIAA successfully applied a DMCA takedown to

Re: [DNG] XFCE in Beowulf confuses left and right

2020-11-04 Thread terryc
On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 05:43:36 -0600 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 3:36 PM terryc wrote: > > > > On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 11:56:33 +0100 > > kernel panic! wrote: > > > > > Update! > > > > > > I "dig" th

Re: [DNG] Fwd: XFCE in Beowulf confuses left and right

2020-11-04 Thread terryc
On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 11:25:15 +0100 kernel panic! wrote: > hello terry, > > it was excatly what I'm doing! > but, the "software" does not was i want... > > take a look to the pics. fig0 shows you what i see if i start arandr > i drag and drop the 20" on the right place an activate it.. First

Re: [DNG] motherboard BIOS update

2021-01-08 Thread terryc
On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 14:08:29 -0700 Fred wrote: > On 1/8/21 1:08 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: > > On 08-01-2021 20:52, Fred wrote: > >> On 1/8/21 8:09 AM, Antony Stone wrote: > >>> On Friday 08 January 2021 at 15:43:37, Fred wrote: > >>> > Is there a Devuan program that can update the

Re: [DNG] Another request for assistance

2021-06-14 Thread terryc
On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 17:42:04 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Resultant is : > grub> > > grub> ls > lists some 18 partitions none of which indicate the msdos needed for > efi (proc), (hdo), (hd0,gpt15) (hd0, gpt 14 to 1) (hd1) > > Tried booting using the rEFInd disk and everything is

Re: [DNG] r/devuanon reddit.com. is anyone here looking after it?

2021-06-14 Thread terryc
On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 10:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Xenguy via Dng wrote: > From: "terryc" ; Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 > 3:34:43 AM: > > Noticed today that the last post was 6 months ago. > > > > It could probably do with something recent, like the release of 3.

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

2021-06-10 Thread terryc
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 13:06:07 -0700 Fred wrote: > On 6/10/21 10:01 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 08:49:24 -0700, Fred wrote in message > > : > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I have a new Beowulf AMD64 install and am having trouble mounting > >> USB storage devices. > >> > >> The USB

Re: [DNG] ntp setup

2021-06-19 Thread terryc
On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 12:18:32 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > What none of the articles mentioned was on how to synchronize system > time with npt. I had already installed npt it was the synchronizing > that I wasn't remembering and there was no mention of how to for > anything but systemd

Re: [DNG] Beowulf; Increasing the number of boot options under grub. How To?

2021-05-18 Thread terryc
On Tue, 18 May 2021 11:38:50 +0200 Ludovic Bellière wrote: > On mar, 18 mai 2021, onefang wrote: > > I recently bought an AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT card. Your 5700 might > > be too new for Beowulf, I had to jump through some hoops te get my > > 5600 working fully. Using the 5.10 kernel from

[DNG] Diff between backports and proposed upgrades

2021-05-07 Thread terryc
On Sat, 8 May 2021 00:13:11 -0300 Gastón via Dng wrote: > On Sat, May 08, 2021 at 10:20:23AM +0800, Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: > > Is there a better way to be able to install the required packages > > without having to individually name each one and the version? > > yes, you can try to do

[DNG] Beowulf; Increasing the number of boot options under grub. How To?

2021-05-17 Thread terryc
I am hoping there is a simple config/number change in the grub config files, but I can not find it in the doco I've read. In the past, the list of kernel images just grew each time you loaded/updated the linux-image files. But the current system automatically trims it to just two, with normal and

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