Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-20 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 05:44:08PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 12:17:58PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Thu, 17 May 2018 11:16:50 +0100 > > KatolaZ wrote: > > > > > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/16/contributing_to_keep_small_linux_alive/ > > >

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-20 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sat, 19 May 2018 20:49:45 +0200 Arnt Karlsen ha wrote: > On Sat, 19 May 2018 16:57:07 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message > <20180519165707.504d5c33@ayu.localdomain>: > > > On Sat, 19 May 2018 at 16:42:49 +0200 > > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > > On Sat,

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 19 May 2018 13:14:14 -0700, Rick wrote in message <20180519201414.ge2...@linuxmafia.com>: > Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no): > > > 17 years ago, I was the final lawful > > webmaster at fmb.no, our domain docs were stolen by > > https://www.frp.no/ people. > > Just to unpack

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-19 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no): > 17 years ago, I was the final lawful > webmaster at fmb.no, our domain docs were stolen by > https://www.frp.no/ people. Just to unpack a bit of what you say, for those less able to follow your nation's affairs, and practicing my translation skills,

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 19 May 2018 16:57:07 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message <20180519165707.504d5c33@ayu.localdomain>: > On Sat, 19 May 2018 at 16:42:49 +0200 > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Sat, 19 May 2018 04:25:53 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message > >

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-19 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > Which, is a conversation I said I'm not going to have. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 20 May 2018 01:39:37 +1000, Andrew wrote in message : > On 20/05/18 00:42, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..you need both, IME. 17 years ago, I was the final lawful > > webmaster at fmb.no, our domain docs were stolen by > >

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 18 May 2018 17:44:08 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 12:17:58PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Thu, 17 May 2018 11:16:50 +0100 > > KatolaZ wrote: > > > > >

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-19 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 20/05/18 00:42, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..you need both, IME. 17 years ago, I was the final lawful webmaster > at fmb.no, our domain docs were stolen by https://www.frp.no/ people. Is there an English translation for that? https://web.archive.org/web/20051119085953/http://www.fmb.no:80/

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-19 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sat, 19 May 2018 at 16:42:49 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sat, 19 May 2018 04:25:53 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message > <20180519042553.7ba51256@ayu.localdomain>: > >>> {headdesk} >>> >>> I really don't think it's that difficult to understand that avoiding >>>

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > Whom shouldn't do that, the distro developer or the distro's admin? The various people in charge of a distribution acting in a suitable collaborative fashion, or other responsible parties acting as decided and arranged by said distro.

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Fri, 18 May 2018 at 15:30:27 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> Adam Borowski's point is that if you have a single person >> administering the distro's infrastructure it does not matter if the >> infrastructure is an

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > Adam Borowski's point is that if you have a single person > administering the distro's infrastructure it does not matter if the > infrastructure is an autonomous one or if it's hosted on GitHub: So, Don't Do That, Then. {headdesk} I

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Fri, 18 May 2018 at 13:18:25 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl): > > [the likes of GitLab:] > >> This wouldn't have helped. A piece of infrastructure that's run by a >> person who gets run over the bus, or throws a tantrum, is

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl): [the likes of GitLab:] > This wouldn't have helped. A piece of infrastructure that's run by a person > who gets run over the bus, or throws a tantrum, is inaccessible just the > same as when hosted on GitHub. > > You need redundancy. I'm puzzled:

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 10:18:24AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org): > > > I got a pm reply from Gottox, who said that their main problem at the > > moment seems to be re-acquiring access to the github account that > > contains all the packages. > > Maybe, the

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org): > I know it might seem a silly comment, but building and maintaining an > independent development infrastructure actually requires a > considerable amount of energy and time (and money). So I am not > surprised if a distro might decide to cut on the infra

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 10:18:24AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: [cut] > > There are fully reasonable self-hosted, open source GitHub workalikes, > such as GitLab. Maybe VoidLinux should be setting one up and developing > its own VCS and packaging architecture. > I know it might seem a silly

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org): > I got a pm reply from Gottox, who said that their main problem at the > moment seems to be re-acquiring access to the github account that > contains all the packages. Maybe, the first step should be to learn the lesson 'Don't outsource your development

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 12:17:58PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 17 May 2018 11:16:50 +0100 > KatolaZ wrote: > > > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/16/contributing_to_keep_small_linux_alive/ > > > > Very interesting piece on the importance of contributing to keep