Re: [dns-privacy] [Doh] [Ext] DNS over HTTP/3?

2018-11-22 Thread Paul Wouters
On Nov 22, 2018, at 19:29, Barry Raveendran Greene wrote: > > > > > The “trade off” to move the DNS architecture away from residents to privacy > is going to get people killed. Since ISPs are doing this themselves already at large scale (use 8.8.8.8 instead of their own), I find the

Re: [dns-privacy] [Doh] [Ext] DNS over HTTP/3?

2018-11-22 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Nov 22, 2018, at 4:29 AM, Barry Raveendran Greene wrote: > The irony is that this work is operationally destabilizing to the Internet > and Telecom. We’re moving to an environment where the strength of a resilient > ASN recovering communications in a disaster will be tested over and over >

Re: [dns-privacy] [Doh] [Ext] DNS over HTTP/3?

2018-11-22 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Nov 22, 2018, at 2:03 AM, Vittorio Bertola wrote: > > > >> Il 21 novembre 2018 alle 21.17 Christian Huitema ha >> scritto: >> >> You make it sound like some aggressive attack, but it is a trade-off. >> The IETF is working to enhance the privacy of DNS users, > > I'd argue the opposite

Re: [dns-privacy] [Doh] [Ext] DNS over HTTP/3?

2018-11-22 Thread Barry Raveendran Greene
> On Nov 21, 2018, at 15:17, Christian Huitema wrote: > > You make it sound like some aggressive attack, but it is a trade-off. > The IETF is working to enhance the privacy of DNS users, and the > authenticity of DNS responses. Doing so inevitably affects the > operations that relied on the

Re: [dns-privacy] [Doh] [Ext] DNS over HTTP/3?

2018-11-22 Thread Vittorio Bertola
> Il 21 novembre 2018 alle 21.17 Christian Huitema ha > scritto: > > You make it sound like some aggressive attack, but it is a trade-off. > The IETF is working to enhance the privacy of DNS users, I'd argue the opposite - what the IETF is doing is in the overall reducing the privacy of