Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] draft-schanzen-gns and draft-ietf-dns-alt-tld

2022-08-03 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Aug 3, 2022, at 8:09 AM, Schanzenbach, Martin wrote: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-wkumari-dnsop-internal-00 > does not seem to be a predecessor of > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld/ You are correct; this was my mistake. draft-wkumari-dnsop-internal

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] draft-schanzen-gns and draft-ietf-dns-alt-tld

2022-08-03 Thread Schanzenbach, Martin
> On 3. Aug 2022, at 16:46, Paul Hoffman wrote: > > On Aug 3, 2022, at 12:36 AM, Schanzenbach, Martin > wrote: >> >> Having now read further I am pretty convinced that the advisory is not >> useful in the context of this thread discussion. >> Ist sais at the end that [1] was the "impetus"

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] draft-schanzen-gns and draft-ietf-dns-alt-tld

2022-08-03 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Aug 3, 2022, at 12:36 AM, Schanzenbach, Martin wrote: > > Having now read further I am pretty convinced that the advisory is not useful > in the context of this thread discussion. > Ist sais at the end that [1] was the "impetus" for the advisory. Reading a five-year old version of a draft

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] draft-schanzen-gns and draft-ietf-dns-alt-tld

2022-08-03 Thread Schanzenbach, Martin
Having now read further I am pretty convinced that the advisory is not useful in the context of this thread discussion. Ist sais at the end that [1] was the "impetus" for the advisory. However, [1] states that "Why not use .alt? The proposed .alt presudo-TLD is specifically only for use as a

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] draft-schanzen-gns and draft-ietf-dns-alt-tld

2022-08-02 Thread Martin Schanzenbach
I just read it and on page 5 it specifically excludes .onion and .gnu as those do not use the DNS protocol (citing also the alt draft here). So this is equivalent to the .alt draft only if the private-use TLD is not limited to private-use DNS queries as investigated in the document. I find this to

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] draft-schanzen-gns and draft-ietf-dns-alt-tld

2022-08-02 Thread John R. Levine
On Tue, Aug 02, 2022 at 07:11:38PM +, Paul Hoffman wrote: recommends that the ICANN board to pick a string that will never be put into the DNS root, and thus is usable for systems like GNS. This was, of course, the whole point of the .alt draft in the first place, at least when I was

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] draft-schanzen-gns and draft-ietf-dns-alt-tld

2022-08-02 Thread Andrew Sullivan
Disclaimer: I work for the Internet Society but I am not speaking for them. On Tue, Aug 02, 2022 at 07:11:38PM +, Paul Hoffman wrote: recommends that the ICANN board to pick a string that will never be put into the DNS root, and thus is usable for systems like GNS. This was, of course,

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] draft-schanzen-gns and draft-ietf-dns-alt-tld

2022-08-02 Thread Paul Hoffman
The ISE started this thread with a discussion that included "Whether that means using TLD labels that begin with _ or whether that means suffixing them with ".ALT", I leave to you experts to sort." There is another forthcoming option that could be used in draft-schanzen-gns, namely the