[DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-obsolete-dlv

2019-08-23 Thread Tim Wicinski
All Sorry for the delay, the IETF moves very few RFCs to Historic (thats' another discussion), but all looks like ready to move forward This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-obsolete-dlv Current versions of the draft is available here:

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-obsolete-dlv

2019-08-23 Thread Warren Kumari
On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 11:23 AM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > All > > Sorry for the delay, the IETF moves very few RFCs to Historic > (thats' another discussion), but all looks like ready to move forward > Indeed. This document looks good to me, but for process wonkery reasons it needs to be WGLC'ed

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-obsolete-dlv

2019-08-23 Thread Joe Abley
Hi Tim, On 23 Aug 2019, at 11:23, Tim Wicinski wrote: > This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-obsolete-dlv > > Current versions of the draft is available here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-obsolete-dlv/ >

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-obsolete-dlv

2019-08-23 Thread Paul Hoffman
The document looks fine to me. --Paul Hoffman ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-12.txt

2019-08-23 Thread Rob Sayre
On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 5:09 PM Erik Kline wrote: > > +1 from me, fwiw. > Seems fine to me, as well. thanks, Rob ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] Please review and provide feedback -- draft-stw-6761ext

2019-08-23 Thread Warren Kumari
[ No hats!] On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 2:29 PM John Levine wrote: > > >So it would be helpful to know if you think the recommendations are in fact > >reasonable. > > I think they're reasonable but I would more clearly distinguish cases > by where the protocol switch is, where I think these are the

Re: [DNSOP] Please review and provide feedback -- draft-stw-6761ext

2019-08-23 Thread Joe Abley
Hi Warren, On 23 Aug 2019, at 17:18, Warren Kumari wrote: > On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 2:29 PM John Levine wrote: >> >>> So it would be helpful to know if you think the recommendations are in fact >>> reasonable. >> >> I think they're reasonable but I would more clearly distinguish cases >> by

Re: [DNSOP] Please review and provide feedback -- draft-stw-6761ext

2019-08-23 Thread Joe Abley
On 18 Aug 2019, at 14:29, John Levine wrote: [...] > 2. Names handled through mutant DNS which can returns IP addresses (.local, > .localhost, .homenet/.home.arpa) [...] > For 2, we seem to agree that future reservations, if any, will go under .arpa. I think I know what you're getting out

Re: [DNSOP] Please review and provide feedback -- draft-stw-6761ext

2019-08-23 Thread Ted Lemon
I haven’t read the latest version in a few weeks, and I must have missed the part about the “alt” TLD. (Actually, I just checked, and my memory was correct—it isn’t there.) My problem with the “alt” TLD as originally proposed was that there was no registry. I think this is nearly useless.

Re: [DNSOP] Please review and provide feedback -- draft-stw-6761ext

2019-08-23 Thread Rob Sayre
On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 2:40 PM Joe Abley wrote: > > I have never been very excited about your ALT proposal. However, I don't > think it will do any harm beyond thwarting any secret plans anybody might > have... What exactly do you mean? thanks, Rob

Re: [DNSOP] Please review and provide feedback -- draft-stw-6761ext

2019-08-23 Thread John R Levine
2. Names handled through mutant DNS which can returns IP addresses (.local, .localhost, .homenet/.home.arpa) I think it's clear that nobody has ever shown signs of wanting to anchor anything like this under .ARPA if it's a name that a user might ever have to see. The reason we might imagine

[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-12.txt

2019-08-23 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations WG of the IETF. Title : The ALT Special Use Top Level Domain Authors : Warren Kumari Andrew

Re: [DNSOP] Please review and provide feedback -- draft-stw-6761ext

2019-08-23 Thread John R Levine
I don't mean to channel Warren (it's unnecessary because even when he's asleep he's still reading mail) but I think the whole point of the ALT proposal is not to have a registry. A registry attracts policy and dispute resolution; an informal, decentralised understanding that anything goes,

Re: [DNSOP] Please review and provide feedback -- draft-stw-6761ext

2019-08-23 Thread Christian Huitema
On 8/23/2019 2:18 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: > [ No hats!] > > On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 2:29 PM John Levine wrote: >>> So it would be helpful to know if you think the recommendations are in fact >>> reasonable. >> I think they're reasonable but I would more clearly distinguish cases >> by where

Re: [DNSOP] Please review and provide feedback -- draft-stw-6761ext

2019-08-23 Thread Joe Abley
Hi Ted, On 23 Aug 2019, at 18:05, Ted Lemon wrote: > I haven’t read the latest version in a few weeks, and I must have missed the > part about the “alt” TLD. (Actually, I just checked, and my memory was > correct—it isn’t there.) Warren is talking about a different document. > My problem

Re: [DNSOP] Please review and provide feedback -- draft-stw-6761ext

2019-08-23 Thread Joe Abley
On 23 Aug 2019, at 18:07, Rob Sayre wrote: > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 2:40 PM Joe Abley wrote: > >> I have never been very excited about your ALT proposal. However, I don't >> think it will do any harm beyond thwarting any secret plans anybody might >> have... > > What exactly do you mean?

Re: [DNSOP] Please review and provide feedback -- draft-stw-6761ext

2019-08-23 Thread Warren Kumari
On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 5:39 PM Joe Abley wrote: > > Hi Warren, > > On 23 Aug 2019, at 17:18, Warren Kumari wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 2:29 PM John Levine wrote: > >> > >>> So it would be helpful to know if you think the recommendations are in > >>> fact reasonable. > >> > >> I think

Re: [DNSOP] Please review and provide feedback -- draft-stw-6761ext

2019-08-23 Thread Rob Sayre
On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 3:20 PM Joe Abley wrote: > > Anybody who was currently harbouring plans to apply for ALT in some future > round of new gTLD applications would therefore presumably feel harmed by a > decision to make it impossible for those plans to be executed. > That is a very clear

Re: [DNSOP] Please review and provide feedback -- draft-stw-6761ext

2019-08-23 Thread Ted Lemon
On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: > There was also some discussions with Jacob (or perhaps Alec) saying > that if this had existed when they started, they probably would have > used onion.alt instead of .onion. This wouldn’t have solved the problem. Remember that the driving