[DNSOP] Re: [EDE] Registering a few more error codes

2024-09-11 Thread Tim Wicinski
Speaking Personally, these all three seem reasonable. I can easily see a reason for the second error code (local root), especially as a debugging/test case. Also personally, I feel like the DNS community needs a quality error code similar to HTTP 418. But I will shut up and show myself out. tim

[DNSOP] Minutes from IETF120

2024-07-28 Thread Tim Wicinski
op/wg-materials/blob/main/dnsop-ietf120/dnsop-ietf120-minutes.txt DNSOP WG Vancouver, BC, Canada Session 1 Date: Monday, July 22, 2024 Time: 15:30-17:00 local Chairs: Benno Overeinder, Suzanne Woolf, Tim Wicinski https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/chatlog-120-dnsop-202407221530/ Only discussion during th

[DNSOP] Re: Response to draft-fbw-dnsop-dnszonehop

2024-07-22 Thread Tim Wicinski
Roy That is on Thursday Agenda. Sorry for the mixuyp On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 3:47 PM Roy Arends wrote: > I saw this on the agenda for this afternoon. > > The proposed solution against zone-walking is to exclude names from an > nsec chain. > > Example, say "B" needs to kept private from zone-wa

[DNSOP] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03

2024-07-12 Thread Tim Wicinski via Datatracker
Tim Wicinski has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 as Informational on behalf of the DNSOP working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis/ ___ DNSOP ma

[DNSOP] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-domain-verification-techniques-05.txt

2024-07-11 Thread Tim Wicinski
On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 3:36 PM John R Levine wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jul 2024, Tim Wicinski wrote: > >> A) Should verification records have a tag at the front of the data to > >> identify the record type? There's plenty of prior art for this, e.g., > >> the 63 t

[DNSOP] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-domain-verification-techniques-05.txt

2024-07-11 Thread Tim Wicinski
Duane Thanks for these. I'm going to capture these for the authors (at least one is currently on holiday). On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 5:55 PM Wessels, Duane wrote: > I read through draft-ietf-dnsop-domain-verification-techniques-05 and have > a few minor comments / suggestions. > > > > > this may

[DNSOP] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-domain-verification-techniques-05.txt

2024-07-11 Thread Tim Wicinski
I'm going to try to answer a few of these John, as acting Document Shepherd, herder of author kittens. On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 5:23 PM John Levine wrote: > It appears that Tim Wicinski said: > >This is one of those DNSOP documents that may not be relevant to those who > &

[DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-domain-verification-techniques-05.txt

2024-07-08 Thread Tim Wicinski
All I wanted to call your attention to the most recent update on this document. The authors have worked through a number of open issues primarily around editorial clarity and reorganization of the recommendations. I want to personally thank the authors for working through these issues, and my co

[DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-18.txt

2024-07-04 Thread Tim Wicinski
Geoff, On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 8:58 PM Geoff Huston wrote: > > I think you appear to be getting "requestor" and "responder" confused in > your proposed text. Did you mean to say the following? > > Arrgh - Guilty and thank you for that. UDP responders should compose response response packets wit

[DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-18.txt

2024-07-04 Thread Tim Wicinski
Paul On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 6:41 PM Paul Vixie wrote: > On Thursday, July 4, 2024 7:05:22 AM PDT Tim Wicinski wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 9:26 PM David Farmer wrote: > > > > 2. Also, maybe R5 should have text similar to R3 with "...the minimum > &

[DNSOP] Re: IETF 120 Call for Agenda Items DNSOP WG

2024-07-04 Thread Tim Wicinski
All A reminder Call for Agenda Items for the IETF 120 in Vancouver, Canada. Draft Submission Deadline is Monday 8 July 2024. Please email the chairs with your requests. *Or* drop us a pull request https://github.com/ietf-wg-dnsop/wg-materials/tree/main/dnsop-ietf120 look for dnsop-ietf120-agenda

[DNSOP] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-18.txt

2024-07-04 Thread Tim Wicinski
t; Internet Systems Consortium > > > On 02. 07. 24 21:49, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > > > (please note I'm sending this to DNSOP and V6OPS) > > > > All > > > > The authors have addressed the comments made during the IESG process and > > feedback from

[DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-18.txt

2024-07-04 Thread Tim Wicinski
questors should limit the requestor's maximum UDP payload size to use the RECOMMENDED size of 1400 bytes, but a smaller limit MAY be used." tim > Thanks > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 2:52 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > >> >> (please note I'm sending this to DNSOP an

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Re: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-selection-00.txt

2024-07-03 Thread Tim Wicinski
Agree with Paul. There is also "Load Balancing DNS Services" which is more of a L4 network situation, which I have witnessed (and still do) in enterprise networks. On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 12:38 PM Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Jul 3, 2024, at 09:32, Peter Thomassen wrote: > > > > > > > > On 7/3/24

[DNSOP] Re: Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis

2024-07-03 Thread Tim Wicinski
ighly confident" they will a new version before the document cut off on Monday. The chairs are highly confident as well. Thanks for the great reviews. tim On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 12:32 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > All > > The authors have updated the document based on some

[DNSOP] Re: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-selection-00.txt

2024-07-03 Thread Tim Wicinski
(no hats) I concur with the concurs of the topic distinction. Thanks Davey and Shumon for reading something to read later! tim On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 11:30 AM Shumon Huque wrote: > Yes, I concur with this distinction Ben, and also that both these topics > deserve discussion. > > Shumon. > >

[DNSOP] Re: Call for Adoption: draft-hardaker-dnsop-rfc8624-bis, must-not-sha1, must-not-ecc-gost

2024-07-02 Thread Tim Wicinski
convinced the authors will have updated versions by Monday, and we will spend the weeks before IETF addressing any comments. Thanks for your patience. tim On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 8:38 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > All > > These were discussed at the last IETF and the chairs felt

[DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-18.txt

2024-07-02 Thread Tim Wicinski
(please note I'm sending this to DNSOP and V6OPS) All The authors have addressed the comments made during the IESG process and feedback from DNS implementers, and have published version 18. The links for the diff are mentioned below. I will point out the additional introduction paragraph added

[DNSOP] Re: Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis

2024-06-26 Thread Tim Wicinski
Hi This is a reminder that the WGLC for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis still has one week remaining. We've received two reviews and comments, but we would like to receive some more from the working group. Thanks tim On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 12:32 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > All >

[DNSOP] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis-05

2024-06-19 Thread Tim Wicinski via Datatracker
Tim Wicinski has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis-05 as Best Current Practice on behalf of the DNSOP working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis/ ___

[DNSOP] Re: draft-hinden-v6ops-dns

2024-06-19 Thread Tim Wicinski
On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 2:49 PM Paul Vixie wrote: > This document makes the argument that because of how things work at the > moment, we should limit our aspirations. > > I completely disagree. > I agree with Paul. We deserve nice things - we may not be there today, but we should strive to get

[DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis

2024-06-19 Thread Tim Wicinski
All The authors have updated the document based on some early reviews. Since this is an update from the original RFC7958, I urge folks to take a look at the diff from the original: https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=rfc7958&url2=draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-02&difftype=--html This star

[DNSOP] Re: [DNSOP]Our reading of consensus on draft-hardaker-dnsop-rfc8624-bis, and the "must-not-algorithm" docs.

2024-06-19 Thread Tim Wicinski
All We chairs wanted to let the working group know that the authors will be publishing new versions with the recommendations that there is agreement on. They are hoping to get all this done before the document submission deadline (or maybe that was the chair's optimism). tim On Tue, May 14, 202

[DNSOP] Re: [DNSOP]Re: [Ext] Requesting final comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2024-06-19 Thread Tim Wicinski
`To follow up on this discussion, I've talked with Paul and I'm OK with leaving the last paragraph of section 3.3 in place. Joe Abley has been the only other outspoken one on this. I have the feeling/consensus/vibes that the latest version makes the text clearer. We will discuss this with Warren

[DNSOP] draft-hinden-v6ops-dns

2024-06-18 Thread Tim Wicinski
All This working group has been wrangling with our document on avoid-fragmentation, and the various opinions of how DNS should handle this, based on years and years of implementation experience. I noticed a few days ago that the IPv6 folks have offered up their opinions on this subject. I urge D

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] To sign root-servers.net or not?

2024-06-18 Thread Tim Wicinski
Thanks Paul for the data (and the thoughts!). I also missed this and have some reading to do. tim On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 7:05 PM Geoff Huston wrote: > Thanks for the pointer! > > g > > > > On 18 Jun 2024, at 7:17 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > > > > On Jun 17, 2024, at 13:33, Geoff Huston wro

[DNSOP] Re: [DNSOP]Re: [Ext] Requesting final comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2024-06-17 Thread Tim Wicinski
On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 12:19 PM Joe Abley wrote: > On 17 Jun 2024, at 17:54, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > Oh that's a very good point, and does make that assumption. "will be > valuable if root-servers.net is DNSSEC signed" does not make that > assumption. > >

[DNSOP] Re: [DNSOP]Re: [Ext] Requesting final comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2024-06-17 Thread Tim Wicinski
ot make that assumption. tim > On 17 Jun 2024, at 17:40, Tim Wicinski wrote: > >  > Paul is correct on this - we would like a few more comments on the > clarification changes to RFC8109-bis. > Also, Willem offered some suggested text to the last paragraph of 3.3 > re

[DNSOP] Re: [DNSOP]Re: [Ext] Requesting final comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2024-06-17 Thread Tim Wicinski
-documents-2020-11-05-en > > > > Please let us know if you have any issues with the changed text in the > new version. > > > > --Paul Hoffman > > > > > > On Jun 5, 2024, at 08:25, Tim Wicinski wrote: > >> > >> All > >> > >

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] [DNSOP]Requesting final comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2024-06-06 Thread Tim Wicinski
FC 8499 (Obsoleted by RFC 9499) thanks tim > --Paul Hoffman > > > On Jun 5, 2024, at 08:25, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > > > All > > > > The chairs are requesting some final comments on > draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis. As you might recall, this document has

[DNSOP]Requesting final comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2024-06-05 Thread Tim Wicinski
All The chairs are requesting some final comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis. As you might recall, this document has already been through WGLC and had consensus to advance, but our AD reviewed it and raised some additional questions. (Warren Kumari, “AD Review of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis,”

[DNSOP]Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion-06

2024-05-24 Thread Tim Wicinski via Datatracker
Tim Wicinski has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion-06 as Informational on behalf of the DNSOP working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion/ ___ DNSOP ma

[DNSOP]Re: [IANA #1362913] expert review for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping (dns-parameters)

2024-05-15 Thread Tim Wicinski
discussion. tim (just a contributor) On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 10:29 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > I wrote a note to Peter and his co-author on this discussion and > we(chairs) feel that Paul W is correct in saying _signal is too generic. > > We should not overload any underscore label for multi

[DNSOP]Re: [IANA #1362913] expert review for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping (dns-parameters)

2024-05-09 Thread Tim Wicinski
I wrote a note to Peter and his co-author on this discussion and we(chairs) feel that Paul W is correct in saying _signal is too generic. We should not overload any underscore label for multiple purposes. If another type of operator signalling appears, a new label can be acquired. Being specific

[DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-hardaker-dnsop-rfc8624-bis, must-not-sha1, must-not-ecc-gost

2024-04-27 Thread Tim Wicinski
All These were discussed at the last IETF and the chairs felt there was consensus to request adoption. This starts a Call for Adoption for: draft-hardaker-dnsop-rfc8624-bis draft-hardaker-dnsop-must-not-sha1 draft-hardaker-dnsop-must-not-ecc-gost The drafts are available here: h

[DNSOP] Minutes from IETF119

2024-03-26 Thread Tim Wicinski
All Thanks for two successful sessions of DNSOP and thanks to Paul Hoffman for his note taking ! I've uploaded the minutes into the datatracker: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/119/materials/minutes-119-dnsop-01 I made sure the links to the chat logs for the DNSOP sessions are in the minut

[DNSOP] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping-07

2024-03-24 Thread Tim Wicinski via Datatracker
Tim Wicinski has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping-07 as Proposed Standard on behalf of the DNSOP working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstra

[DNSOP] draft-hardaker-dnsop-rfc8624-bis

2024-03-21 Thread Tim Wicinski
Not wearing any hats, really I want to thank Wes and Warren for putting this together and I think this is a good way to build on the good work that RFC8624 produced. tim ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] Followup Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping

2024-02-14 Thread Tim Wicinski
Hi This working group last call wrapped up last week, but between OARC and a multi-vendor CVE I allowed myself to get distracted. I'll do the shepherd writeup later this week thanks tim On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 6:23 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > All > > Peter has integrated

[DNSOP] DNSOP Interim 2024-01 minutes

2024-01-30 Thread Tim Wicinski
Again thanks to mr Hoffman for minutes, here they are and uploaded in the datatracker and our git repo Thank you one and all for having great productive conversations! tim DNSOP WG Interim meeting 2024-01-30 1700 UTC Chairs: Benno Overeinder, Suzanne Woolf, Tim Wicinski Minutes taken by Paul

Re: [DNSOP] draft-dnsop-deleg-00

2024-01-30 Thread Tim Wicinski
John On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 11:29 AM John Dickinson wrote: > On 30/01/2024 16:21, Joe Abley wrote: > > On 30 Jan 2024, at 15:57, Roy Arends wrote: > > >>> If an authority server is capable of loading a DELEG RRSet and > generating referral responses accordingly, it's surely also possible of

Re: [DNSOP] draft-dnsop-deleg-00

2024-01-30 Thread Tim Wicinski
(my vibes only) On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 11:21 AM Joe Abley wrote: > > > I think specifying rules about which to prefer is important. But I also > think it's worth thinking more pessimistically around what kinds of > failures will result when people get that wrong. We have already seen this > wit

Re: [DNSOP] Domain Name System Operations (dnsop) WG Virtual Meeting: 2024-01-30

2024-01-30 Thread Tim Wicinski
Wes On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 6:45 PM Wes Hardaker wrote: > IESG Secretary writes: > > > The Domain Name System Operations (dnsop) WG will hold a virtual > > interim meeting on 2024-01-30 from 18:00 to 19:00 Europe/Amsterdam > > (17:00 to 18:00 UTC). > > I'm sadly very day-job conflicted with t

Re: [DNSOP] Followup Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping

2024-01-29 Thread Tim Wicinski
someone feels we missed something, please speak up. thanks tim On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 6:23 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > All > > Peter has integrated feedback from the first working group last call, and > we'd like to do a followup last call. The diff with the curre

[DNSOP] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis-02

2024-01-22 Thread Tim Wicinski via Datatracker
Tim Wicinski has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis-02 as Best Current Practice on behalf of the DNSOP working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis/ ___

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2024-01-22 Thread Tim Wicinski
:54 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > All > > > This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis > "Initializing a DNS Resolver with Priming Queries" > > Current versions of the draft is available here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf

[DNSOP] Followup Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping

2024-01-20 Thread Tim Wicinski
All Peter has integrated feedback from the first working group last call, and we'd like to do a followup last call. The diff with the current version is here: https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping-05&url2=draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping-07&difftype

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping

2024-01-19 Thread Tim Wicinski
Thanks Peter and Paul I'll review the revised I-D but we were thinking of going another (perhaps shorter) follow up working group last call tim On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 8:59 AM Peter Thomassen wrote: > For the record, Paul and I sorted these out off-list (for real, this > time!), and I'll push

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2024-01-16 Thread Tim Wicinski
we missed something, please speak up. thanks tim On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 8:54 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > All > > > This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis > "Initializing a DNS Resolver with Priming Queries" > > Current versions of the d

[DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2024-01-08 Thread Tim Wicinski
All This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis "Initializing a DNS Resolver with Priming Queries" Current versions of the draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis/ The Current Intended Status of this document is: Best Curre

Re: [DNSOP] WGLC draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis (2nd round)

2023-12-28 Thread Tim Wicinski
, 2023 at 3:14 AM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > The WGLC closes next week, Saturday, December 24. > > > This should say *Sunday* December 24. > > thanks > > Tim > (currently double checking some appointments) > >> ___

Re: [DNSOP] Notification Call for Adoption: draft-bash-rfc7958bis

2023-12-28 Thread Tim Wicinski
Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 9:55 AM Tim Wicinski wrote: > Dear WG, > > The working group was asked to adopt draft-bash-rfc7958bis “DNSSEC Trust > Anchor Publication for the Root Zone” as a working group document, and the > call went out on October 12 this year. So far we've seen one su

Re: [DNSOP] WGLC draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis (2nd round)

2023-12-18 Thread Tim Wicinski
The WGLC closes next week, Saturday, December 24. This should say *Sunday* December 24. thanks Tim (currently double checking some appointments) > ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

[DNSOP] WGLC draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis (2nd round)

2023-12-17 Thread Tim Wicinski
Dear WG, After the premature start of the first Working Group Last Call (WGLC) for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis by the chairs, a second WGLC was initiated on October 10, 2023. The document has remained relatively stable over the past two years, except for the addition of missing sections in the la

[DNSOP] Notification Call for Adoption: draft-bash-rfc7958bis

2023-12-16 Thread Tim Wicinski
Dear WG, The working group was asked to adopt draft-bash-rfc7958bis “DNSSEC Trust Anchor Publication for the Root Zone” as a working group document, and the call went out on October 12 this year. So far we've seen one support email on the list, and during the IETF 117 DNSOP WG session the chairs f

[DNSOP] Chairs Actions from IETF118

2023-11-22 Thread Tim Wicinski
All Apologies for taking a bit longer than we thought, but we wanted to send out our list of chair's actions taken from the last meeting. If anyone thinks we missed something please let us know. thanks tim --- ## IETF118 Chairs Actions ### Actions * draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping

[DNSOP] Fwd: [dnssd] Call for adoption of draft-bellis-dnsext-multi-qtypes into DNSSD

2023-11-16 Thread Tim Wicinski
DNSOP DNSSD has placed a call for adoption for Ray Bellis' document on Multi Qtypes. Current version is here. https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-bellis-dnsext-multi-qtypes-08.html The DNSOP chairs would like the DNSOP working group to comment on this call for adoption. We are aware that not e

[DNSOP] Minutes from IETF118

2023-11-12 Thread Tim Wicinski
review to make sure if you are quoted that you are quoted correctly, etc. The chairs are working up a list of actions to take from the meeting that we'll send out this week. Tim along with Benno and Suzanne DNSOP WG IETF 118, Prague Chairs: Benno Overeinder, Suzanne Woolf, Tim Wicinski Mi

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping

2023-11-11 Thread Tim Wicinski
ing Group Last Call for > draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping > > > On 9/19/23 21:48, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > > > > > This starts a Working Group Last Call for > draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping > > > > > > Cur

Re: [DNSOP] [dnsdir] DNS in Constrained Network Scenarios

2023-11-10 Thread Tim Wicinski
Martine First thanks for the presentation this morning. Second, I am your DNS Directorate reviewer for draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap, and I realize I owe your latest versions a review. Geoff/Jim - I wonder if we should have a second pair of eyes on this document? While I am not one of the DNS

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-structured-dns-error-07.txt

2023-11-09 Thread Tim Wicinski
ication, > Resulting in potentially unwanted censorship... > > Gianpaolo > > Inviato da Outlook per Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> > > > C2 General > -- > *Da:* Ben Schwartz > *Inviato:* Giovedì, Novembre 9, 2023 5:14:26 PM >

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-structured-dns-error-07.txt

2023-11-09 Thread Tim Wicinski
On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 10:02 AM Ben Schwartz wrote: > Note that "mailto" URIs can pre-populate subject and body contents, so > information about the specific blocked item and other metadata could be > populated automatically. This seems sufficient for enterprise use cases > like allowing employe

[DNSOP] DRAFT Agenda for IETF118 DNSOP Sessions

2023-10-25 Thread Tim Wicinski
Chairs * Benno Overeinder [be...@nlnetlabs.nl](be...@nlnetlabs.nl) * Suzanne Woolf [suzworldw...@gmail.com](suzworldw...@gmail.com) * Tim Wicinski [tjw.i...@gmail.com](tjw.i...@gmail.com) ### IESG Overlord * Warren Kumari [war...@kumari.net](war...@kumari.net) ### Document Status * [Github](htt

[DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bash-rfc7958bis

2023-10-12 Thread Tim Wicinski
Hi This is another relatively small document that is updating RFC7958, and needs to be updated prior to the next KSK rollover. This starts a Call for Adoption for draft-bash-rfc7958bis "DNSSEC Trust Anchor Publication for the Root Zone" The draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/d

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bellis-dnsop-qdcount-is-one

2023-10-12 Thread Tim Wicinski
draft-ietf-dnsop-qdcount-is-one into the datatracker. The chairs hope Mr. Bellis is rested from his holiday to address this task. thanks tim On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 12:59 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > We want to thank Joe and Ray for getting this republished with the notes > from the

[DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis (Second Time!)

2023-10-10 Thread Tim Wicinski
Hi All We had so much fun the first timeActually this chair wishes to thank Mr Abley and Mr Huston for catching our error so quickly, and we apologize for any and all inconvenience. I did go back and looked at the history AND also reread the document. I do wish to point out that there are 4 p

Re: [DNSOP] Followup One Week Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation

2023-10-10 Thread Tim Wicinski
All I know this was a bit longer than a week, but we wanted to receive some confirmations from folks with questions on implementations. We've received that, and the chairs feel the consensus is to move forward. Thanks tim On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 2:27 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > (fo

[DNSOP] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-15

2023-10-10 Thread Tim Wicinski via Datatracker
Tim Wicinski has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-15 as Best Current Practice on behalf of the DNSOP working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragment

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2023-10-08 Thread Tim Wicinski
Paul, Thanks for getting an update done!. I started reviewing it (as now I want to double check), but we should should get this out back on the top of the stack. tim On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 6:16 PM Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Sep 14, 2023, at 18:46, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > > We

[DNSOP] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion-04

2023-10-02 Thread Tim Wicinski via Datatracker
Tim Wicinski has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion-04 as Informational on behalf of the DNSOP working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion/ ___ DNSOP ma

[DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bellis-dnsop-qdcount-is-one

2023-09-28 Thread Tim Wicinski
We want to thank Joe and Ray for getting this republished with the notes from the previous meeting. Thanks Ted and Eric for their comments today, we will remember them. I will say that this chair likes the appendix, to remind me what I have glossed over, as the authors have already corrected me on

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-bellis-dnsop-qdcount-is-one-01.txt

2023-09-28 Thread Tim Wicinski
Thanks Joe for pulling this together. tim On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 10:57 AM Ted Lemon wrote: > Thanks for the update. I think this does the job. I could do without the > appendix, but I understand the urge to fully document. :) > > On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 9:40 AM Joe Abley wrote: > >> Hi all,

[DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping

2023-09-19 Thread Tim Wicinski
This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping Current versions of the draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping/ The Current Intended Status of this document is: Standards Track This Document will update 73

[DNSOP] Followup One Week Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation

2023-09-19 Thread Tim Wicinski
(forgive my missing subject previously) All After pulling this back (Thanks Peter again), we went back to the authors and In the case of the DF bit, the wording is changed from "UDP responders are RECOMMENDED" to "UDP responders MAY" They also added some additional text in the security sectio

[DNSOP] (no subject)

2023-09-19 Thread Tim Wicinski
Followup One Week Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation All After pulling this back (Thanks Peter again), we went back to the authors and In the case of the DF bit, the wording is changed from "UDP responders are RECOMMENDED" to "UDP responders MAY" They also added s

Re: [DNSOP] Murray Kucherawy's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis-09: (with COMMENT)

2023-09-17 Thread Tim Wicinski
On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 5:01 AM Joe Abley wrote: > Hi Murray! > > Op 17 sep. 2023 om 08:07 heeft Murray Kucherawy via Datatracker < > nore...@ietf.org> het volgende geschreven: > > > I thought the IESG (though maybe not this particular one) had previously > > discouraged publishing "living docume

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2023-09-14 Thread Tim Wicinski
All We chairs heard back from the authors and we're pulling this working group last call. I want to share some background - Paul and I talked at 117 and he said the document is ready, and I trust Paul implicitly in these matters. Then when the dnsdir review came back as it was I was like "OK".

Re: [DNSOP] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-14

2023-09-14 Thread Tim Wicinski
Peter On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 11:33 AM Peter van Dijk wrote: > Hello Tim, > > On Wed, 2023-08-16 at 15:45 -0700, Tim Wicinski via Datatracker wrote: > > Tim Wicinski has requested publication of > draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-14 as Best Current Practice on behalf >

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2023-09-13 Thread Tim Wicinski
call to put more eyes onto a document. tim On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 5:30 PM Geoff Huston wrote: > > > > On 14 Sep 2023, at 6:25 am, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 5:20 PM Joe Abley wrote: > > Hi Tim, > > >

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2023-09-13 Thread Tim Wicinski
On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 5:20 PM Joe Abley wrote: > Hi Tim, > > Op 13 sep. 2023 om 23:06 heeft Tim Wicinski het > volgende geschreven: >  > > This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis > "Initializing a DNS Resolver with Priming Queries

[DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2023-09-13 Thread Tim Wicinski
Hi All We Chairs are back and catching up, and want to get things moving again. This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis "Initializing a DNS Resolver with Priming Queries" Current versions of the draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dn

[DNSOP] IETF117 Chairs Actions

2023-08-16 Thread Tim Wicinski
All, Thanks for another productive session of DNSOP. Paul's minutes have been uploaded. If you made comments at the microphone, please confirm everything is accurate. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-117-dnsop/ https://github.com/ietf-wg-dnsop/wg-materials/blob/main/dnsop-ietf117/dnsop-

[DNSOP] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-14

2023-08-16 Thread Tim Wicinski via Datatracker
Tim Wicinski has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-14 as Best Current Practice on behalf of the DNSOP working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragment

Re: [DNSOP] A question on values in draft-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures

2023-07-26 Thread Tim Wicinski
Duane/Evan/Mukund/All, What do feel is the consensus on lowering the value to 1 second ? >From the previous suggested text: Resolvers MUST cache resolution failures for at least 1 second. The initial duration SHOULD be configurable by the operator. A longer cache duration for resolut

Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-13.txt

2023-07-23 Thread Tim Wicinski
Peter On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 3:37 AM Peter van Dijk wrote: > On Wed, 2023-07-05 at 18:51 -0400, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > All > > The authors of draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation worked with different > implementers to expand upon the index of Known Implementations, and wha

Re: [DNSOP] A question on values in draft-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures

2023-07-23 Thread Tim Wicinski
by the operator. thanks tim > DW > > > > > On Jul 23, 2023, at 9:00 PM, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > > > > > > > All, > > > > We had a discussion this morning during the hackathon about a value with > > the document caching-resolution-failur

[DNSOP] A question on values in draft-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures

2023-07-23 Thread Tim Wicinski
All, We had a discussion this morning during the hackathon about a value with the document caching-resolution-failures. The current text in 3.2 says: Resolvers MUST cache resolution failures for at least 5 seconds. The value of 5 seconds is chosen as a reasonable amount of time that an

[DNSOP] Presenters please submit slides

2023-07-23 Thread Tim Wicinski
Presenters, DNSOP is less than 24 hours away and we have one set of slides. Please submit your slides here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/117/session/dnsop or to the chairs. The Chairs slides will be uploaded shortly tim ___ DNSOP mailing list

Re: [DNSOP] draft-dnsop-dnssec-extension-pkix

2023-07-22 Thread Tim Wicinski
ith different owners. >> > First-to-register does not guarantee that the correct ownership could >> > be determined by creation time (i.e. it's a race condition without a >> > stronger mechanism.) >> >> Explicit disavowal should be able to solve this too,

[DNSOP] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures-05

2023-07-22 Thread Tim Wicinski via Datatracker
Tim Wicinski has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures-05 as Proposed Standard on behalf of the DNSOP working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-caching-resolution-fai

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-domain-verification-techniques-02.txt

2023-07-10 Thread Tim Wicinski
All Shivan, Shumon and Paul have incorporated feedback from the WG as well as several area reviews, and more. It's a much better document because of that, and we thank everyone. The chairs want to give the WG a 7-10 days to review the changes and confirm there are no issues thanks tim On Mon,

Re: [DNSOP] Current status of draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-validator-requirements

2023-07-06 Thread Tim Wicinski
ort for it. Thanks tim On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 6:58 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > All, > > The chairs want to thank everyone for the feedback on this document > recently. We've been in discussions with Warren and the authors about this > document, and we have some questions we&#x

[DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-13.txt

2023-07-05 Thread Tim Wicinski
All The authors of draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation worked with different implementers to expand upon the index of Known Implementations, and what they implement specifically. The chairs would like to have a one week follow up Working Group Last Call comment period. We are looking for substan

Re: [DNSOP] Feedback on draft-ietf-dnsop-domain-verification-techniques-01

2023-07-05 Thread Tim Wicinski
Erik I placed your excellent comments into the author's issue tracker, then we decided to split them up into separate issues. Take a look to confirm. If anything is wrong, it's one me tim APEX domains, and hostnames vs domains https://github.com/ietf-wg-dnsop/draft-ietf-dnsop-domain-verificati

Re: [DNSOP] draft-dulaunoy-dnsop-passive-dns-cof

2023-07-05 Thread Tim Wicinski
email thread as something that can be addressed. Authors should fill free to submit to the ISE. We will alert them as well tim On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 4:18 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > All > > Draft-dulaunoy-dnsop-passive-dns-cof was originally submitted back in > 2014, and has h

Re: [DNSOP] [v6ops] WG call for adoption: draft-momoka-v6ops-ipv6-only-resolver-01

2023-07-05 Thread Tim Wicinski
Momoka Thanks for making DNSOP aware of this. We encourage anyone with comments on the document adoption to reach out. Everything I've heard and read on this work (wearing no hats) is that this is good work and should be adopted. thanks tim On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 5:15 AM Momoka Yamamoto wro

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for Negative Caching of DNS Resolution Failures

2023-07-05 Thread Tim Wicinski
All The Working Group Last Call has completed and the chairs thank everyone for their comments. It appears that the authors have addressed all issues, and the document is ready to advance. tim On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 11:00 AM Tim Wicinski wrote: > All > > This starts a Working G

[DNSOP] draft-dulaunoy-dnsop-passive-dns-cof

2023-06-23 Thread Tim Wicinski
All Draft-dulaunoy-dnsop-passive-dns-cof was originally submitted back in 2014, and has had 10 revisions since then. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dulaunoy-dnsop-passive-dns-cof/ Note that the format is now fixed, and there are several implementations. We had asked DNSOP (in the poll w

[DNSOP] DNSOP chairs office hours

2023-06-23 Thread Tim Wicinski
All The Chairs have been talking about this for awhile, and we want to try an experiment and to start holding open 'office hours.' This would be a time when anyone is welcome to drop in and chat with the chairs about mentoring, roadblocks on drafts, cross-area concerns, process questions, etc. The

[DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for Negative Caching of DNS Resolution Failures

2023-06-21 Thread Tim Wicinski
All This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures Current versions of the draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures/ The Current Intended Status of this document is: Proposed Standard/Standards

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