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that there will not be a linebreak in the middle of a block. Could anyone
tell me how to do this?
inlinemediaobject ?
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stylesheets.
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On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 03:21:36PM -0400, Norman Walsh wrote:
In
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=440667group_id=21935atid=384107
Yann Dirson notes that affiliation contains orgname and orgdiv but no
corpname. He goes on to point out that orgname is likely intended
of DocBook. Maybe when we come to some
schema...
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to
extract, say, the 1st year in such a list - you have to add string
processing to element addressing.
Finally, Norm's solution seems to address most needs.
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macros can be created!).
More verbose, but more flexible: you can specify an EPS alternative
for print (where your GIF would probably perform poorly), which you
can't do with (inline)?graphic
Do I read that correctly?
I think yes.
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nsgmls:/home/mas/downloads/dbxml/docbookx.dtd:74:15:W: named character
reference
nsgmls:/home/mas/downloads/dbxml/docbookx.dtd:74:17:E: X20AC is not a
function name
Please search the docbook-apps archives.
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the
modified version ?
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On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 11:36:16AM +0200, Yann Dirson wrote:
But now that we are at it, do you know if there are any other good free
(GPL, BSD, whatever) tools for authoring and rendering MathML besides Amaya,
PassiveTeX and a few other?
Not really. However, Amaya uses ThotLib
by XInclude processing
and would have been used as input for the serialization step. Now it
is possible that the tools don't support this.
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linkend as obsolete so that people can do the
transition.
But well, you can count me in the number of those who would give
linkend away only if really necessary :}
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as this can already be
done with current markup.
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On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 06:54:46AM -0500, Daniel Veillard wrote:
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 12:28:29PM +0100, Yann Dirson wrote:
A possibility would be to define this AF so that we're on a firm
formal ground, and continue using DocBook as it is now. SGML users
would be able to get the Xlink
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 08:14:33AM -0500, Norman Walsh wrote:
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| Or did you/anyone intend to directly use Xlink-processing tools
| directly in the standard toolchain ?
I do. I plan to support the links as best I can in the stylesheets
on in HTML with a FORM
with a SELECT, and a simple javascript function attached to item
selection ? But I'm not sure about inline rendering of such a beast.
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-namespace;%xlink-colon;'
That would allow just to use %xlink-prefix; in subsequent defs.
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On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 02:58:45PM +0100, Jirka Kosek wrote:
Yann Dirson wrote:
2. xlink:href is, well, much less sexy than linkend, and the name
does not really reflect the semantics attached to the attribute as
much as linkend does - and my guess is that href originates from
HTML
)
These are presentation issues, handled by the stylesheets. This is
more in the scope of the docbook-apps mailing-list.
You have to write a customisation layer for the stylesheets. See
http://docbook.sourceforge.net/projects/dsssl/doc/
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new feature.
Right, I did not think of the issue Norm raised about XInclude'd
sub-docs.
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on the
context ?
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the structure IMHO. What you want is
more probably a title for the element contained in the listitem. What
elements do you put in there ?
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fragments, and envvar
role=referenceTOMCAT_HOME/ in descriptive texts ?
Would it make sense to add such known values to envvar's class
attribute ?
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or are they even
supported?
That's not markup-level info, that's style-level. You can put this
either in DSSSL/XSL stylesheets, or in CSS.
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that. But to change headers and footers in general, see dbcompon.dsl.
Maybe an extension to the SGML property set, that would give accesss
to some filesystem information, would be generally useful.
- file timestamps
- file names
- ...
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be seen as a rendering issues of the page-footnote
flow-objects passed to jadetex (they are an extention over DSSSL), and
maybe a small piece of TeX wizardry in a jadetex.cfg could put them
into the margin.
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of this note shall produce one or the other layout
object is a matter style.
OTOH, I does raise a question about the footnote name - it is the
name of a layout item, not of a semantic item, as already shown by the
end notes rendering.
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role=summary should be
rendered as marginalia, footnote role=moreinfo as footnote, and
footnote role=whatever as endnote.
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to define a new flow object, that rely on
the post-processor (eg. jadetex) to find the replacement text for each
page.
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that to trigger the
addition in the stylesheet of the additional column. That will
require a customisation layer.
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On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 02:37:58PM -0500, Norman Walsh wrote:
Our plan of record is to add a single new *info element (and not
EquationInfo, ExampleInfo, etc.). Suggestions for the name of this
single info element are also solicited.
MetaInfo ?
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the problem for those wanting to make use of selective
changes.
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, but the complexity of the solution does not
change the problem IMHO.
Opinions ?
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be the
column width.)
OK that's fine with me - except I feel that `width=100%
scalefit=1' should be the default for vector drawings.
Does this make sense to others than myself ?
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There is a modified version at:
http://www.utoronto.ca/webdocs/HTMLdocs/HTML_Spec/html.html
with examples of output, like:
http://www.utoronto.ca/webdocs/HTMLdocs/HTML_Spec/html401-strict/DTD-HOME.html
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fall in
the other category instead.
With definitions something like:
nonprofit an organisation with a non-profit legal status under
some law (eg. under French law association loi 1901)
informalan organisation with no legal status (eg. Debian)
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| With definitions something like:
|
| nonprofit an organisation with a non-profit legal status under
| some law (eg. under French law association loi 1901
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 07:43:26AM -0500, Daniel Veillard wrote:
off-topic
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 01:37:53PM +0100, Yann Dirson wrote:
SPI (spi-inc.org) is the (US) non-profit org that was created to serve
as a legal frontend. It now also hosts Gnome, Berlin, the Linux
Standard Base
If the scaled content size is shorter than the specified depth,
the image will be aligned within the depth according to this value
(one of top, middle, or bottom).
I feel like this would be much of a stylesheet issue. Or do I miss
some particular uses ?
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On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 08:43:24AM -0500, Norman Walsh wrote:
and added a demo at
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/proposals/graphicatts/demo.html
Cool, that helps to understand what you mean.
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| On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 10:31:32AM -0500
is to be reproduced
reproductionwidth
the effective width of the image
If I understand well, in the current proposal width stands for my
reproductionwidth, contentwidth stands for my physicalwidth, and
we have nothing for my physicalwidth. Right ?
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processor) will eventually be
able to tell how big the image actually is (unless it's a format the
processor doesn't understand, in which case it isn't going to work
anyway) and do the right thing.
OK, I see what you mean. This looks sufficient then.
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for suffix-based (eg. Makefile)
rules.
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-titlepage-verso-mode
(element revhistory
($revhistory-table$))
(element (revhistory revision)
($revhistory-table-revision$)))
See: https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/alcovebook/
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Abstract
(2columns)
Body of paper
For the authors stuff, you should be able to get something working
using a table. That would make ncolumn-switching unnecessary here.
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that for you (sgml2x does, I suppose
docbook-utils does as well).
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Id, and
the forms module is correctly installed (registerd in catalog), it
should be found automatically.
Don't forget the -d ...stylesheet.dsl on thecommand-line
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It may be worth checkin in an ebnf-4.2CR.dtd, and cvs rm it when 4.2
gets released ?
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the algorithm of mechanic
typewriters :)
Maybe the best solution would be to provide a README.msdos with the
legacy linefeeds ?
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with the web server here, just like what the FTP ASCII mode already
does. I guess FTP access would solve the problem ?
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On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 09:21:06AM -0700, Vladimir G. Ivanovic wrote:
It seems to me that marginal notes are an example of where it's hard to
separate logical structure from presentation.
Why do you think so ?
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. editorial comments) would be possible to render as marginalia.
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, until Cristian has finished his
work on implementing full page-sequence semantics (see recent
dsssllist archives).
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of
mechanism...
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, that would
make things much clearer...
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On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 07:43:38AM -0400, Norman Walsh wrote:
/ Yann Dirson [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say:
| How do people feel annotation would relate to footnote and remark ?
You might sell me on deprecating remark in favor of a class of
annotation, but I think footnote should stay
the layout, when they write their document...
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in the CVS tree to be
generated ones. Maybe looking at the makefiles would tell which ones,
otherwise probably only Norm knows :)
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On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 06:09:04AM -0700, Dave Pawson wrote:
I think that would make a very useful addition to the documentation.
Even a good one for tdg itself...
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items you should be using xref which will
display whatever numbering was assigned...
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not to do automatic indentation
of the list starttag then. But that may be more a bug than itended
behaviour...
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),
this requires to extend the DTD. There is an example of this (based
on the 3.1 DTD) in the docbook-dsssl source, under contrib/subdoc/,
but it is quite rough (see limitations in subdoc.dsl).
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On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 04:18:20PM +0200, Stefan Kuhn wrote:
I'm looking for a way to arrange a table and two media objects in a line, i.
e. without a line break.
mediaobject is a block element. You should use inlinemediaobject
for this.
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in the pre output.
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does not really work, I'm afraid there is a stylesheet
bug, as well as an extraneous semicolon :)
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identifying the level.
Is this a bug? Does anyone know anything about this behaviour?
There are/were some problems with the level in pdf bookmarks in the
dsssl stylesheets, some of which should have been addressed already.
What version of the stylesheets are you using ?
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which has a java API. So I tried opening and saving in StarOffice,
but here the images are not embedded after saving. So this way is not
working...
FWIW, PatheticWriter (the wp from the SiagOffice suite) can do some
RTF stuff - maybe it could help you ?
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environement, while still allowing to use standard stylesheets.
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architectural mappings of module elements into the core DTD, so that
domain-specific processors need only know about their own module, even
if other modules are used.
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with such a
solution.
I was originally thinking about just using simplesect and making its
title optional. But then we it would allow a section and to
contain both simplects with and without a title, which is probably not
what we want.
So this would require yet another section-class element ?
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in a single file (say entities.ent), and just referencing this one
from your master doc.
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questions?
No, docbook-apps is the place.
I changed the bgcolor attribute of the shade-verbatim-attr to
lightblue. I did it by editing the dbparam.dsl file as root. Not
the best practice I think.
You should write a customisation layer, as described in the docbook-dsssl doc.
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| I got a user request recently, of being able to group paragraphs in a
| logical way, but without a title. Usual rendering would just add more
| inter-paragraph space.
What's
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 09:56:16AM +0100, Schlienger, Marc wrote:
What is dbhier.mod?
That's one of the modules of the DTD, which defines elements for the
document hierarchy (book, chapter, etc.). See part about DTD
customisation in DocBook-TDG for this type of info.
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the way images are currently handled in
docbook is also on my list :)
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, and in many
cases I couldn't manage to do it.
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for that environment is one more than the
starting line number from the previous environment.
Didn't you mean one more than the _ending_ line number from the
previous environment.
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Other information required to help you include:
- what stylesheets you're using (xsl or dsssl)
- what toolchain you use
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support such elements and attributes,
so it probably makes sense for our DTD to do likewise.
Well, XSL-FO is completely layout-oriented, and HTML is still striving
to get away from layout-oriented stuff. I'm not sure they are good
models for DocBook...
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was written, not necessarily how it has to be typeset, right ?
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On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 08:33:05PM +0300, Alexander Voropay wrote:
Is seems, this file isn't copyrigted, so you could use it as you
want.
Hm. IIRC if there is no explicit statement that you can use it as you
like, by default you can't legally do anything with it...
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fancy things like lexible
multi-columning, marginalia, etc.
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On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 09:02:27PM +0100, Jirka Kosek wrote:
Yann Dirson wrote:
This is not true as well. Although it has been dormant for a long
time, Openjade 1.3.1 and then 1.3.2 were released several months ago.
Work is ongoing to incorporate the developments that were done
a slightly more conplicated build
process, Jirka just said yes you can :)
any idea what debian package might have this tool?
It's available as sgml2xml in old package sp, and as osx in
package opensp.
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reference to undefined variable total-node-page-numbers)
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? Is it just 1.4devel that is not
stabilized enough, and 1.3 should be used ?
It is also much MUCH slower than jade at processing documents :(
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you should use generate.section.toc.level
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On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 09:41:27AM -0700, Bob Stayton wrote:
The XSL stylesheets are currently set up to respond
only to role=bold (semantic markup only by
a stretch, IMHO).
You're lucky, the DSSSL stylesheet ignores both :}
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Please, any guidlines for forward progress would be helpful.
Maybe some of the man-editing gui programs can do that as a
side-effect of reading and writing both formats ? (eg. gmanedit)
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VALIDATE.section
!doctype section PUBLIC -//OASIS//DTD DocBook V4.1//EN
$ nsgmls -s VALIDATE.section mymodule.sgml
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- and I'm still wondering
about OpenJade - the latest beta is awfully slower than the latest
stable version, cannot seem to work properly with tables, and I've
seen no recent activity in CVS... Anyone knows what's happenning
there ?
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is it (re)usable ? This layer
will most probably be licenced under the GPL or LGPL - is it OK if we
include your code ?
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Yann Dirson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alcove.com/
Free-Software EngineerIngénieur Logiciel-Libre
Free-Software time manager
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 08:18:21PM +0930, Richard Sharpe wrote:
Yann Dirson wrote:
Hm, thinking of it - under which terms is it (re)usable ? This layer
will most probably be licenced under the GPL or LGPL - is it OK if we
include your code ?
If I wasn't prepared to allow it to be used, I
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