Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-23 Thread Tom Davies
: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow To: David Nelson li...@traduction.biz Cc: documentation@global.libreoffice.org documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 22 August, 2012, 23:10 On 23/08/2012, at 2:12, David Nelson li...@traduction.biz wrote: Hi, On Wed, Aug 8, 2012

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread David Nelson
Hi, On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:48 PM, David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz wrote: On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Much better to have it on a TDF server. OK, I filed a request with the BoD. I've just been on the BoD confcall, and discussed the provision of

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread Hazel Russman
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:12:42 +0300 David Nelson li...@traduction.biz wrote: The only question to be clearly resolved is: does the Documentation team really want an Alfresco platform? If the answer is yes and the only real sticking point is that you want it hosted on a TDF server rather

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread Jean Weber
On 23/08/2012, at 2:12, David Nelson li...@traduction.biz wrote: Hi, On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:48 PM, David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz wrote: On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Much better to have it on a TDF server. OK, I filed a request with the

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread Jean Weber
In David's first note on this thread, he asked, Cedric Bosdonnat, I was wondering if you might give us an idea of the progress with CMIS support within LibreOffice? I'm curious about this as it could have a big impact on how team workers would interact with the Alfresco platform, i.e. via

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread Cedric Bosdonnat
Hi Jean, On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 10:21 +1000, Jean Weber wrote: In David's first note on this thread, he asked, Cedric Bosdonnat, I was wondering if you might give us an idea of the progress with CMIS support within LibreOffice? I'm curious about this as it could have a big impact on how

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread Cedric Bosdonnat
Hi Jean, On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 08:10 +1000, Jean Weber wrote: One annoying thing to me is that I have not seen an easy and convenient way to link directly to a folder or a file in Alfresco, so I can send that link to, say, Hazel, and say Here's a file that needs editing or The files are in

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread Jean Weber
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Cedric Bosdonnat cedric.bosdonnat@free.fr wrote: Hi Jean, On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 10:21 +1000, Jean Weber wrote: In David's first note on this thread, he asked, Cedric Bosdonnat, I was wondering if you might give us an idea of the progress with CMIS

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread Jean Weber
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Cedric Bosdonnat cedric.bosdonnat@free.fr wrote: Hi Jean, On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 08:10 +1000, Jean Weber wrote: One annoying thing to me is that I have not seen an easy and convenient way to link directly to a folder or a file in Alfresco, so I can send

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread Jean Weber
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 2:23 AM, David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz wrote: Hi Hazel, On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote: So how will people know when something needs a review? Or a final edit/proofreading? The traditional way was to put it in a

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread Jean Weber
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 7:28 PM, David Nelson li...@traduction.biz wrote: However, IMHO, it would be good to start using Alfresco's blogging facilities, maybe it's wiki functionality, and it's automated email alerts and RSS feeds. I agree that if we decide to use Alfresco, we should take

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread Jean Weber
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 4:57 PM, David Nelson li...@traduction.biz wrote: Hi Hazel, On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote: Well, I am definitely not signing up to Twitter or Facebook. I have better things to to with my time. Twitter would be just

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi Hazel, On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote: Well, I am definitely not signing up to Twitter or Facebook. I have better things to to with my time. Twitter would be just part of a panoply of means of communication - more output only. Alerts (about

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi Klaus-Jürgen, On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 2:59 PM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol o...@sophia-louise.de wrote: I like the idea of wiki functionality especially for translation. We on German doku team tried to translate the documentation by wiki: Having the original text in little bit by bit and

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi Jean, On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: I think the process we choose should allow for and encourage, but not require, the steps or roles of reviewer, proofreader, etc even if we skip some steps (as indeed we do) or one person does several steps. I'll

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi Jean, On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Much better to have it on a TDF server. OK, I filed a request with the BoD. -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-07 Thread David Nelson
Hi Hazel, Jean, guys, On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote: Reviewing and proofreading are two very different activities. A reviewer needs to be knowledgeable about the software being described, so that he/she can check the accuracy of every statement

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-07 Thread Hazel Russman
On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:28:43 +0300 David Nelson li...@traduction.biz wrote: You could also consider Twitter as a good channel for updates, both automated and manual. Using Twitter would do away with the need to sign-up for and follow a mailing list, and put you closer to potential

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-07 Thread klaus-jürgen weghorn ol
Hi David, all, Am 07.08.2012 11:28, schrieb David Nelson: [...] We *really* have a fuzzy, fluid organization. And we are proud of it. ;-) [...] However, IMHO, it would be good to start using Alfresco's blogging facilities, maybe it's wiki functionality, and it's automated email alerts and

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-07 Thread Jean Weber
On 07/08/2012, at 4:22, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:28:43 +0300 David Nelson li...@traduction.biz wrote: Most of all, I'd definitely recommend revising the file naming conventions and taking advantage of Alfresco's built-in versioning. +1 to

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-07 Thread Jean Weber
I think the process we choose should allow for and encourage, but not require, the steps or roles of reviewer, proofreader, etc even if we skip some steps (as indeed we do) or one person does several steps. I'll write more when I'm not on the phone. Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-06 Thread Jean Weber
Hazel has covered some of the important points I would have made. I'll get back with a more detailed reply next week, after discussion with techwriting colleagues at the OpenHelp Conference this coming weekend. At this point, I'll address only one point: published ODTs are essential for

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-05 Thread Hazel Russman
On Sat, 4 Aug 2012 20:42:37 +0300 David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz wrote: Hi Jean, OK, the workflow we originally set-up on Alfresco is a bit like Snakes Ladders. The doc start in the Drafts folder. A considered-ready draft gets approved and goes forward to the Review folder. A

[libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-04 Thread David Nelson
Hi, Jean, Sanket, guys, If you have time, I would just like to start a brainstorming about the docs team workflow, as it is now and how it might be if Alfresco was the primary working platform. For this, I have downloaded Alfresco documentation from the Alfresco project about generic use of

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-04 Thread Jean Weber
Ah, I now see these are PDFs. That helps! --Jean On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, Thanks for starting this discussion, even though your timing is unfortunate for me. I am travelling, with limited Internet access and only inconvenient ways to

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-04 Thread Jean Weber
David, I see you have provided the Enterprise edition of two of the Alfresco manuals. Aren't we using the Community Edition of Alfresco? Are there differences? Or perhaps Alfresco has not updated the Community Edition manuals? --Jean On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-04 Thread Jean Weber
BTW, this wiki page includes a diagram of the workflow used by ODFAuthors for many years for docs production. The descriptive text is a bit out of date (especially info on naming convention) and not relevant to Alfresco (again, naming convention), but the general flow is one I think should be

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-04 Thread David Nelson
Hi Jean, I'll reply to you mail by mail... On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: David, I see you have provided the Enterprise edition of two of the Alfresco manuals. Aren't we using the Community Edition of Alfresco? Are there differences? Or perhaps Alfresco

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-04 Thread David Nelson
Hi Jean, On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, this wiki page includes a diagram of the workflow used by ODFAuthors for many years for docs production. The descriptive text is a bit out of date (especially info on naming convention) and not relevant to