[libreoffice-documentation] Use of Nabble and/or Mail to Thread Discussion ?

2011-02-05 Thread John M. Dlugosz
I'm following these discussions and doing the documentation editing on my 
laptop, which is not my main computer where I have my email set up.  I can't 
Reply using Nabble, since it says I don't have permission (why?).  I can send 
out a top-level message to start a new thread by sending it to the list 
address, no problem.  But how can I keep the discussion thread when I don't 
have the original message in an email program to reply to?

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco Workflow Questions

2011-02-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

Yes, fix things yourself is the main plan.  No need to discuss anything 
beforehand really, except perhaps whatever you consider to be serious changes.  
It might be easier to make even serious changes as you go and then mention 
those 
changes to the list.  What is serious and what is not is a moving target at 
the moment but you will get a good feel for what people are comfortable with 
fairly soon so don't worry :)  


I think if you are proof-reading and complete a page then you publish it?  I 
think that even after publishing people can still correct it and re-publish?

Regards from
Tom :)







From: John M. Dlugosz d6474gh...@snkmail.com
To: documentation@libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 5 February, 2011 4:46:09
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco Workflow Questions

Documents are edited, reviewed, proofed, and proofed again.

So what am I supposed to do in the 'review' or 'proof' stage?  Fix things 
myself?  I think that serious content problems would get a 'comment' and sent 
back to drafts; likewise something that needs discussion.  


But typos, small formatting nits, and punctuation?  Easier to fix than to 
explain!  Do I make such changes with change-tracking turned on and let the 
next 
proofer vet it?

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[libreoffice-documentation] Completed Review of 0203WG3-WorkingWithText.odt

2011-02-05 Thread John M. Dlugosz
I completed my pass of 0203WG3-WorkingWithText.odt, but I still cannot Update 
it!  So please take heed that I have a lot of work on this that is in limbo, 
and don't edit the same file.

I found a few things that need attention (not counting graphics updates), and 
since the document is all or nothing I'll kick it back to Drafts for someone 
to take a look at the indicated notes.  Other changes I've made myself, which 
are either purely copy editing or based on the behavior I'm seeing.  
Everything's under Record Changes.

I would think that we should all have Changes and Comments visible when 
working on any of this stuff, as a matter of course.

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[libreoffice-documentation] Chapter template

2011-02-05 Thread Sigrid Carrera
Hi, 

we've translated and adapted the chapter template, that Ron created some time 
ago. 

In this process, one of our reviewer noticed, that there is no style for 
footnotes in the template. We added this for our template, but you might want 
to add it to the English template as well. 


Sigrid

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base documentation

2011-02-05 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker


Hi Rogerio,

thanks for your interest.

Le 05/02/2011 15:48, Rogerio Luz Coelho a écrit :


Jean I think if you manage to do something like this it would be grand, and
I surely would translate it to Portuguese if you manage a English version :)


This is currently on my plate... The very beginning (part 1 to the Calc 
and text import thingy) is already written (in French :( but needs some 
rethinking and/or rewording.


As for an English version... well, as you might guess English is not my 
mother language which means I can write some sentences but the wording 
won't be on par with what a true native would express. All this to say 
there's a lot to be done.


Also, I'm ok to share what I've got so far (in French!) and go on with 
anyone interested.

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Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base documentation

2011-02-05 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi Jean-François,
On 05/02/2011 18:22, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:


Hi Rogerio,

thanks for your interest.

Le 05/02/2011 15:48, Rogerio Luz Coelho a écrit :


Jean I think if you manage to do something like this it would be
grand, and
I surely would translate it to Portuguese if you manage a English
version :)


This is currently on my plate... The very beginning (part 1 to the Calc
and text import thingy) is already written (in French :( but needs some
rethinking and/or rewording.

As for an English version... well, as you might guess English is not my
mother language which means I can write some sentences but the wording
won't be on par with what a true native would express. All this to say
there's a lot to be done.

Also, I'm ok to share what I've got so far (in French!) and go on with
anyone interested.


May be you can work with Alex, he said on the FR list that he is going 
to improve the Base documentation once he has finished to translate the 
Guide for beginners? However I don't know in which language he will work :)


Kind regards
Sophie
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Founding member of The Document Foundation

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base documentation

2011-02-05 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/5/2011 9:49 AM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:


Hi Sophie!

Le 05/02/2011 16:29, Sophie Gautier a écrit :


May be you can work with Alex, he said on the FR list that he is going
to improve the Base documentation once he has finished to translate the
Guide for beginners? However I don't know in which language he will work :)


Yes, I've read Alex' announcement but, as I'm not so sure we are working on the same things, 
didn't raise my hand (yet). I'm mainly focusing on writing a beginners' guide from scratch and, 
from what I had understood, Alex's translating an existing document (Mariano Casanova's mid level 
doc).


Just correct me if I'm wrong.

My beginners' guide idea was born from a few in-house requests that no-one could fulfill. As I 
already stated, I've already a few pages written on this and I'm working on a few more to come 
(see the outline in a former msg in this thread).


Of course, sharing the free software ideas as you may know ;)  I'm willing to cooperate into any 
collective work in this matter.


All the best,


I really like your outline, and I'd say your English is *more* than adequate to get the points 
across. I'd be glad to edit for smoothing it out if that's needed.


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Problems Updating in Alfresco

2011-02-05 Thread Barbara Duprey
Yes, please. Meanwhile, can we use the Discussion capability to indicate what's going on with 
documents we can't deal with properly, or is that also going to come up against a rule? I don't know 
exactly how Discussion works, but it could serve as a stopgap, I think.


On 2/5/2011 1:17 AM, David Nelson wrote:

Hi, :-)

Maybe I should finish with the email-sending configuration quickly, or
else we need to temporarily deactivate those rules. Let me get back to
you quickly about that.

David Nelson

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 14:31, Jeremy Cartwrightvardomes...@gmail.com  wrote:

On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 06:04:13 +
John M. Dlugoszd6474gh...@snkmail.com  wrote:


I uploaded a new version, but got the same error sending email.  I
can't tell if it actually took my new version or threw it away.

Assuming it was taken, y'all can see that I added comments and a
few edits with change tracking turned on.


I see in the document properties you are listed as the modifier. But
under versioning history Hal Parker's is the last name to update the
file. Also, I didn't see any notes - on Alfresco's discussion or
within the .odt.


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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Use of Nabble and/or Mail to Thread Discussio

2011-02-05 Thread John M. Dlugosz
Barbara Duprey wrote:
 Are you subscribed to the list, at least with -nomail? For some reason, this 
 setup works differently than the OOo/ezmlm lists; I've seen some indications 
 that people need the -nomail subscriptions here. 

I subscribed using documentation-subscr...@libeoffice.org, as the links 
indicated.  I used the same email address there as when registering with Nabble.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Completed Review of 0203WG3-WorkingWith

2011-02-05 Thread David Nelson
Hi John, :-)

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 14:56, John M. Dlugosz d6474gh...@snkmail.com wrote:
 I get an error, Failed to reject the document due to system error: 0106 
 Access Denied. You do not have the appropriate permissions to perform this 
 operation.

I've added you as an admin, so you should theoretically have the
necessary permissions now.

Sorry for the inconvenience: the Alfresco site is new, and we're still
troubleshooting and developing stuff. I'm currently working on email
notifications.

Could you maybe try again?

Thanks if so.

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Use of Nabble and/or Mail to Thread Discussion ?

2011-02-05 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

I'm CC'ing this to Drew Jensen, who originally set-up Nabble, and
Christian Lohmaier. Hopefully, they will be able to provide further
enlightenment...

David Nelson

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 02:09, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com wrote:
 On 2/5/2011 2:00 AM, John M. Dlugosz wrote:

 I'm following these discussions and doing the documentation editing on my
 laptop, which is not my main computer where I have my email set up.  I
 can't Reply using Nabble, since it says I don't have permission (why?).  I
 can send out a top-level message to start a new thread by sending it to the
 list address, no problem.  But how can I keep the discussion thread when I
 don't have the original message in an email program to reply to?

 Are you subscribed to the list, at least with -nomail? For some reason, this
 setup works differently than the OOo/ezmlm lists; I've seen some indications
 that people need the -nomail subscriptions here.

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