[libreoffice-documentation] Re: OSX version 10.9.1
Hello Lloyd I am running LO 4.1.4 on a MacBook Pro using Mac OS 10.9.1 without any problems. Never worried about certification as LO has always performed well on my Apple computers. To install LO on the later Mac OS, you may have to go to Settings Sercurity Privacy and select Anywhere in the section “Allow apps downloaded from:”. Default setting for Security Privacy is Mac App Store. Regards PeterS Peter Schofield psaut...@libreoffice.org On 17 Jan 2014, at 05:31, Sevold Lloyd [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] ml-node+s969070n4092601...@n3.nabble.com wrote: Has LibreOffice been certified to run under Maverick OSX 10.9.1? If so, which version should I use? Thank you, Lloyd Sevold [hidden email] -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/OSX-version-10-9-1-tp4092601.html To start a new topic under Documentation, email ml-node+s969070n1645240...@n3.nabble.com To unsubscribe from Documentation, click here. NAML - Peter Schofield psaut...@libreoffice.org -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/OSX-version-10-9-1-tp4092601p4092629.html Sent from the Documentation mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] OSX version 10.9.1
On 16/01/14 22:45, Sevold Lloyd wrote: Has LibreOffice been certified to run under Maverick OSX 10.9.1? If so, which version should I use? The documentation mailing list is not the best place to ask these questions, as it is focused on documentation (as the name implies) and not on user support by volunteer members. Please use the users@ mailing list, or the ask.libreoffice.org website. To answer your question, LibreOffice 4.1.4 is duly signed to work with Mavericks (I am writing from a MacBook Air with 10.9.1 installed), but you must change the security settings to accept also software which is downloaded from a website and not just from Apple Store. Once you have installed LibreOffice and launched it for the first time you can revert the settings, and this should not create problems (but when you update the software you should remember to repeat the same process). Best, Italo -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - sip/jabber it...@libreoffice.org skype italovignoli - hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Re: OSX version 10.9.1
Le 16/01/2014 22:45, Sevold Lloyd a écrit : Hi Sevold, Has LibreOffice been certified to run under Maverick OSX 10.9.1? If so, which version should I use? No, it is not certified, but it works nonetheless. The app is signed with an Apple Developer ID AFAIK, but the language packs are not. Installation of LO, including for any language packs, or later updates, requires you to turn off Apple's Gatekeeper service in the General Settings. You can always turn this service on again after installation of LO. Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Re: OSX version 10.9.1
Le 17/01/2014 14:06, Italo Vignoli a écrit : The point is that run of the mill OSX users do not want to be turning off a security feature that the operating system provides for them. Telling people to turn off built-in security, install an app, and then turn it back on again afterwards, is not the solution and will not endear people to trying out LO, and/or keeping it. Oh wait, I forgot, you have to turn it off again every time you do an update of LO or every time you want to install a language pack, or else leave it off permanently. I find it hard to accept that we advise users to upgrade their versions of LO in general when sec vulns get fixed whilst telling the OSX population to turn off their own security mechanisms, seems somewhat hypocritical to me. Of course, if you don't care, then you can leave the setting off by default, but that is not what happens in default off the shelf sales of Apple hard/software combinations and those are the people we are trying to target. Of course, none of this will be sorted until such time as LibreOffice is available in the AppleStore as a certified app, but that will not happen soon, if at all, if my understanding of Apple's conditions for accepting apps is correct. Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: OSX version 10.9.1
On 17/01/14 17:36, Alex Thurgood wrote: Of course, none of this will be sorted until such time as LibreOffice is available in the AppleStore as a certified app, but that will not happen soon, if at all, if my understanding of Apple's conditions for accepting apps is correct. LibreOffice should be able to get into the AppleStore in the future, although I am not convinced at all of the advantages. I have worked as a consultant for Apple for quite a few years, and I know what it means to software houses (I have also worked for Macromedia and Adobe, when they were both major Apple partners). -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - sip/jabber it...@libreoffice.org skype italovignoli - hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: OSX version 10.9.1
Hi :) I guess the discussions mailing list and BoD are discussing all this. It might be interesting for some of us to go over there and find out how much it costs to get in, would each of the Guides be counted as a separate app? How much do other apps charge for their guides. etc. Regards from Tom :) On 17 January 2014 16:52, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote: On 17/01/14 17:36, Alex Thurgood wrote: Of course, none of this will be sorted until such time as LibreOffice is available in the AppleStore as a certified app, but that will not happen soon, if at all, if my understanding of Apple's conditions for accepting apps is correct. LibreOffice should be able to get into the AppleStore in the future, although I am not convinced at all of the advantages. I have worked as a consultant for Apple for quite a few years, and I know what it means to software houses (I have also worked for Macromedia and Adobe, when they were both major Apple partners). -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - sip/jabber it...@libreoffice.org skype italovignoli - hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: OSX version 10.9.1
Hi :) I agree but this Gateway thing is a recent development. LO is not the only app suffering from this problem and hopefully someone will find an answer to it at some stage = not necessarily a LibreOffice person. The current answer is just a work-around until a better answer can be made more permanent. At the moment you either pay money to Apple and thus get into their App Store (and thus get a green-light when people try to install) or they treat you with contempt, give your app the red-light and claim your app is unsafe. Hopefully some orange light scenario might be fought for and LO might fit in with that. Otherwise ALL apps are going to have to charge money (and set up some sort of tracking system or just charge every user every time and for every upgrade or update)! Since all other OSes allow people to install apps for free i can't imagine Apple users staying happy with all this. Regards from Tom :) On 17 January 2014 16:36, Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote: Le 17/01/2014 14:06, Italo Vignoli a écrit : The point is that run of the mill OSX users do not want to be turning off a security feature that the operating system provides for them. Telling people to turn off built-in security, install an app, and then turn it back on again afterwards, is not the solution and will not endear people to trying out LO, and/or keeping it. Oh wait, I forgot, you have to turn it off again every time you do an update of LO or every time you want to install a language pack, or else leave it off permanently. I find it hard to accept that we advise users to upgrade their versions of LO in general when sec vulns get fixed whilst telling the OSX population to turn off their own security mechanisms, seems somewhat hypocritical to me. Of course, if you don't care, then you can leave the setting off by default, but that is not what happens in default off the shelf sales of Apple hard/software combinations and those are the people we are trying to target. Of course, none of this will be sorted until such time as LibreOffice is available in the AppleStore as a certified app, but that will not happen soon, if at all, if my understanding of Apple's conditions for accepting apps is correct. Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: OSX version 10.9.1
Tom, User guides are not apps. Several of our user guides are (or were) in the iBooks store, because Lulu.com will put them there at no charge to us. However, the rapidity of user guide production for updates to the software, and the slowness of getting books into the iBooks store, means it's not a very useful exercise nor one I pursue. --Jean On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I guess the discussions mailing list and BoD are discussing all this. It might be interesting for some of us to go over there and find out how much it costs to get in, would each of the Guides be counted as a separate app? How much do other apps charge for their guides. etc. Regards from Tom :) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
