[libreoffice-documentation] RE: Ping Dan Lewis: Missing images in GS5008 Getting Started with Base 5.0

[elderdanlewis]

Will do it later this evening. 

Dan

 Original message 
From: Jean Weber  
Date:01/15/2016  4:17 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Documentation@global.libreoffice.org,Dan Lewis  
Subject: Ping Dan Lewis: Missing images in GS5008 Getting Started with Base 5.0 

Dan, I've started going through this chapter and noticed that some of
the images have been linked instead of embedded. I don't have the
folder of images so I can embed them. Could you put the images on the
ODFAuthors website? Or I can list the missing images and you can
upload them. Thanks!

--Jean

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RE: [libreoffice-documentation] Starting with base guide

[elderdanlewis]

I will check my copy of the chapter. Thanks for calling my attention to this. 

Dan

 Original message 
From: Kees Kriek  
Date:12/26/2015  5:48 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Starting with base guide 

Hi there

I have translated te guide Starting with Base into Dutch.
Doing that I crossed an error.
In the summery query example the search condition is Room and the condition
is greater then 500.
However the item Room is not a number value. I think the Field should be
PurchasedPrijs.

Greetings, Kees

*Step 3: Search Condition.*

   1.

   Select Room as the *Fields*.
   2.

   Select *is greater than* as the *Condition*.
   3.

   Enter 500 as the *Value.*
   4.

   Since there is only one condition, *Match all of the following*
   (Default) is appropriate.
   5.

   Click *Next*.



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base 5.0 handbook

[elderdanlewis]

 Original message 
From: Robert Großkopf  
Date:10/14/2015  11:52 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base 5.0 handbook 

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Hi Dan,

Am 14.10.2015 um 16:33 schrieb Dan Lewis:
> On 10/12/2015 10:28 PM, Jean Weber wrote:
>> I have started reviewing and editing Chapter 2, Creating a
>> Database.
>> 
>> Dan Lewis, you have Chapter 1, Introduction to Base, checked out.
>> How is your review of that chapter going?
>> 
>> --Jean
> On page 43 of 45 pages. ETA: this weekend. The Example_sports.odb
> in English has some suggestions as to names in English based upon
> some words commonly used. For example: first name for forename,
> last name for surname, athlete for starter, and events for sports.
> 
> Dan
> 
All fields and tables should have the same name as defined in the
example. The example-databases I have uploaded here:
http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/lo_hb_en/

You could also see the names, used in the database, in the screenshots.

Regards

Robert

 I have already downloaded the example database that I need. I will change 
the names needed to match the changes I have made in the text. Then I will 
correct the screen shots that need it. 

Dan

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base-Handbook 5.0 -chapter 2

[elderdanlewis]

 Original message 
From: Robert Großkopf rob...@familiegrosskopf.de 
Date:08/24/2015  1:33 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base-Handbook 5.0 -chapter 2 

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Hi *,

and here the next:
chapter 7

http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/lo_hb_en/BH5007-Linking.odt
Only new screenshots inserted, also German text - so must be translated.

The last macros I created were directly created referring to English.
So it's faster to copy the content and better for international
understanding.

There are much problems with styles in the different chapters of the
Handbook. Persons, who translated it for LO 3.5, often didn't change
the the style from the German Handbook to the English Handbook. So all
text is red underlined. Also the styles aren't complete identical.
Mouch to do for a person who is interested in a consistent style off
all English descriptions.

 What I have done is load the styles from the 5.0 template. Then I search 
for the German styles and replace them with the English styles. The character 
styles are a little harder to find and replace. 

Content of every chapter shows also the Copyright and Note for Mac
users. In all German chapters these headers of the same second page
of every chapter aren't shown in the content.

 Both of these have been shown in the English guides since version 3.4. In 
5.0, all of the headings appear in the TOC. 

Regards

Robert

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RE: [libreoffice-documentation] Base handbook 5.0 in OmegaT

[elderdanlewis]

   This sounds like the way to go. It will speed up the process. 
   I for one would like to have documentation on how to do this so that I can 
do it also. I have not found it yet. 

Dan

 Original message 
From: Milos Sramek msrame...@gmail.com 
Date:08/09/2015  4:26 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Documentation@global.libreoffice.org 
documentation@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Base handbook 5.0 in OmegaT 

Hi,

some months ago I have already written about this: I suggest to use
omegat for translation of the handbook. My experience is that this will
simplify and speed up the translation process and will enable to reuse
old translations for new BH versions in the future

If you agree I will
- set up the environment at https://github.com/LibreOffice/OmegaT
- transfer there all existing BH translations
- upload  German - English translation of GUI strings (so that one
needs not to guess)
- translate the whole guide by Google translate, so that it can be used
to avoid some typing

The next week I will probably not have access to the Internet, but then
I have time to work on that

best regards
Milos


On 2015-08-09 03:09, elderdanlewis wrote:
Hazel will be very helpful in translating some of the chapters. At some 
 point I want to try to do some of them. I will have to use the same process 
 as Robert: word by word. (I do have two years of college German.)
As I began reviewing chapter one,I was able to make changes because I have 
 a good knowledge of how Base works in English. So it seems that translating 
 something into one's native language can be easier than translating something 
 from it with a good background in the subject.
I seem to live the furthest west of the four of us (UTC-4).So, this 
 determines when I do things. 
 
 Dan
 


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[libreoffice-documentation] Base handbook 5.0 Some thoughts

[elderdanlewis]

   Hazel will be very helpful in translating some of the chapters. At some 
point I want to try to do some of them. I will have to use the same process as 
Robert: word by word. (I do have two years of college German.)
   As I began reviewing chapter one,I was able to make changes because I have a 
good knowledge of how Base works in English. So it seems that translating 
something into one's native language can be easier than translating something 
from it with a good background in the subject.
   I seem to live the furthest west of the four of us (UTC-4).So, this 
determines when I do things. 

Dan
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Handbook 5.0

[elderdanlewis]

 Original message 
From: Dave Barton d...@tasit.net 
Date:08/07/2015  1:33 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Handbook 5.0 

 Original Message  
From: Robert Großkopf
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 10:59:56 +0200

 Hi *,
 
 I have tried to translate the first chapter of the German
 Base-handbuch 5.0.
 The german version is already published here:
 http://de.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
 
 I have uploaded the English version here:
 http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/lo_hb_en/
 
 All chapters would begin with BH5 ...
 For chapter Preface I haven't changed anything I found in the
 English BH35. To chapter Introducion ... I added a lot.
 
 I have set Writer to Edit  Track Changes  Record Changes / Show Changes.
 
 If there is anybody, who want to have a look and want to laugh a
 little bit about the combination of Google Translater and a person,
 who couldn't write English very well ...
 
 I will try to translate the other chapters the same way. So I could
 add new content, when editing the German version, directly to the
 English version.
 
 Hope this would help to publish a newer Verion of the English Handbook
 nearly at the same time than the German Handbuch.
 
 Regards
 
 Robert

Hi Robert,

First a very big thank you for your work on the original German Base
Handbook and for starting the contribution of English translations.

If you want others to review your work, should we upload this material
to a new Base Handbook 5 folder on the ODF Authors website and process
this through the the normal review/edit procedure there?

As a matter of general interest, is there any kind of review/edit
process used in the production of the German edition of this handbook,
or is this something you work on alone? My reason for asking is to see
if there is a way to refine the ODF Authors review process to make it
easier for new contributors to follow. Milos Sramek did not get any
feedback when he raised this issue some time ago, but I believe it is
something we need to give some consideration.

BTW I will not start laughing a your translations until my knowledge of
German is better than your knowledge of English. Which means you will
not hear a single giggle from me for a very very long time. ;)

Thanks  Regards

Dave

I have downloaded chapter 1 to review it. There is a method for doing this. 
Right now I don't remember where this information is. I will send it to you by 
tomorrow morning. As soon as I can get the review done, I will upload it to the 
Base Handbook folder. That is when you can give it an review. I will tell you 
when I finish. 
   Meanwhile, I noticed one thing that needs to be done before anything else: 
converted to the 5.0 template. I will be doing this later today. 

Dan
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RE: [libreoffice-documentation] Fwd: Where is everyone?

[elderdanlewis]

 Original message 
From: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com 
Date:06/27/2015  10:03 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Documentation@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Fwd: Where is everyone? 

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From: *Peter Goggin* petergog...@bigpond.com
Date: Sunday, June 28, 2015
Subject: Where is everyone?
To: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com


On 27/06/15 15:27, Jean Weber wrote:

 I'm still waiting for a few more people to emerge from this mailing
 list and actually do some reviewing/updating work on a user guide, or
 at least ask some intelligent questions about the process.

 --Jean

  Is this documentation on all parts of the LibreOffice suite ?

My main interest is in databases and I have done some reviewing in the
past. I had to stop because of some minor strokes, however the effects of
these seem to have virtually gone.  I would be happy to start looking at
the data base documentation again if this would help.

Regards

Peter Goggin

 I have the Getting Started with Base chapter which I should complete by 
this weekend. 

Dan

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