Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-23 Thread Tom Davies
ink others do to which is why the issue arose.  Less guilt and optimism and more arrogance would have fixed it.  Regards from Tom :)  --- On Wed, 22/8/12, Jean Weber wrote: From: Jean Weber Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread Jean Weber
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 4:57 PM, David Nelson wrote: > Hi Hazel, > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Hazel Russman > wrote: >> Well, I am definitely not signing up to Twitter or Facebook. I have >> better things to to with my time. > > Twitter would be just part of a panoply of means of communicat

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread Jean Weber
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 7:28 PM, David Nelson wrote: > > However, IMHO, it would be good to start using Alfresco's blogging > facilities, maybe it's wiki functionality, and it's automated email > alerts and RSS feeds. I agree that if we decide to use Alfresco, we should take advantage of features

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread Jean Weber
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 2:23 AM, David Nelson wrote: > Hi Hazel, > > On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Hazel Russman > wrote: >> So how will people know when something needs a review? Or a final >> edit/proofreading? The traditional way was to put it in a specific >> folder whose contents could be c

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread Jean Weber
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote: > Hi Jean, > > On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 08:10 +1000, Jean Weber wrote: >> One annoying thing to me is that I have not seen an easy and >> convenient way to link directly to a folder or a file in Alfresco, so >> I can send that link to, say, Ha

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread Jean Weber
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote: > Hi Jean, > > On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 10:21 +1000, Jean Weber wrote: >> In David's first note on this thread, he asked, >> > Cedric Bosdonnat, I was wondering if you might give us an idea of the >> > progress with CMIS support within LibreOf

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread Cedric Bosdonnat
Hi Jean, On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 08:10 +1000, Jean Weber wrote: > One annoying thing to me is that I have not seen an easy and > convenient way to link directly to a folder or a file in Alfresco, so > I can send that link to, say, Hazel, and say "Here's a file that needs > editing" or "The files are

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread Cedric Bosdonnat
Hi Jean, On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 10:21 +1000, Jean Weber wrote: > In David's first note on this thread, he asked, > > Cedric Bosdonnat, I was wondering if you might give us an idea of the > > progress with CMIS support within LibreOffice? I'm curious about this > > as it could have a big impact on h

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread Jean Weber
In David's first note on this thread, he asked, > Cedric Bosdonnat, I was wondering if you might give us an idea of the > progress with CMIS support within LibreOffice? I'm curious about this > as it could have a big impact on how team workers would interact with > the Alfresco platform, i.e. via t

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread Jean Weber
On 23/08/2012, at 2:12, David Nelson wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:48 PM, David Nelson wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Jean Weber wrote: >>> Much better to have it on a TDF server. >> >> OK, I filed a request with the BoD. > > I've just been on the BoD confcall, and dis

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread Hazel Russman
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:12:42 +0300 David Nelson wrote: > > The only question to be clearly resolved is: does the Documentation > team really want an Alfresco platform? > > If the answer is yes and the only real sticking point is that you want > it hosted on a TDF server rather than a community

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-22 Thread David Nelson
Hi, On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:48 PM, David Nelson wrote: > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Jean Weber wrote: >> Much better to have it on a TDF server. > > OK, I filed a request with the BoD. I've just been on the BoD confcall, and discussed the provision of a TDF server to host the Alfresco pla

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi Jean, On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Jean Weber wrote: > Much better to have it on a TDF server. OK, I filed a request with the BoD. -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-list

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-08 Thread Jean Weber
Please wait at least a week so I have time to respond in more detail. Also I may learn some useful suggestions this weekend at OpenHelp. Jean On 08/08/2012, at 0:15, David Nelson wrote: > Hi Jean, > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Jean Weber wrote: >> I think the process we choose should

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-08 Thread Jean Weber
Much better to have it on a TDF server. Jean On 08/08/2012, at 0:15, David Nelson wrote: > I've IM'ed with Florian Effenberger and he's pretty sure that TDF > would be willing to provide a server if people preferred to have > Alfresco hosted on a TDF-owned resource. It might be something to >

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi Jean, On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Jean Weber wrote: > I think the process we choose should allow for and encourage, but not > require, the steps or roles of reviewer, proofreader, etc even if we skip > some steps (as indeed we do) or one person does several steps. I'll write > more when

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi Klaus-Jürgen, On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 2:59 PM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote: > I like the idea of wiki functionality especially for translation. We on > German doku team tried to translate the documentation by wiki: Having the > original text in little bit by bit and translating and reviewing/

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-07 Thread David Nelson
Hi Hazel, On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Hazel Russman wrote: > Well, I am definitely not signing up to Twitter or Facebook. I have > better things to to with my time. Twitter would be just part of a panoply of means of communication - more "output only". Alerts (about stuff published, resource

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-07 Thread Tom Davies
guess it's different for different people. Regards from Tom :)  --- On Tue, 7/8/12, Jean Weber wrote: From: Jean Weber Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow To: "documentation@global.libreoffice.org"

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-07 Thread Jean Weber
I think the process we choose should allow for and encourage, but not require, the steps or roles of reviewer, proofreader, etc even if we skip some steps (as indeed we do) or one person does several steps. I'll write more when I'm not on the phone. Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-07 Thread Jean Weber
On 07/08/2012, at 4:22, Hazel Russman wrote: > On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:28:43 +0300 > David Nelson wrote: > >> Most of all, I'd definitely recommend revising the file naming >> conventions and taking advantage of Alfresco's built-in versioning. > > +1 to that. > Yes. I'm sure I said the file n

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-07 Thread klaus-jürgen weghorn ol
Hi David, all, Am 07.08.2012 11:28, schrieb David Nelson: [...] We *really* have a fuzzy, fluid organization. And we are proud of it. ;-) [...] However, IMHO, it would be good to start using Alfresco's blogging facilities, maybe it's wiki functionality, and it's automated email alerts and RS

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-07 Thread Hazel Russman
On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:28:43 +0300 David Nelson wrote: > You could also consider Twitter as a good channel for updates, both > automated and manual. Using Twitter would do away with the need to > sign-up for and follow a mailing list, and put you closer to potential > contributors from the huge T

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-07 Thread David Nelson
Hi Hazel, Jean, guys, On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Hazel Russman wrote: > Reviewing and proofreading are two very different activities. A > reviewer needs to be knowledgeable about the software being described, > so that he/she can check the accuracy of every statement made about it. > A proof

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-06 Thread Jean Weber
Hazel has covered some of the important points I would have made. I'll get back with a more detailed reply next week, after discussion with techwriting colleagues at the OpenHelp Conference this coming weekend. At this point, I'll address only one point: published ODTs are essential for translator

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-05 Thread David Nelson
Hi Hazel, On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Hazel Russman wrote: > So how will people know when something needs a review? Or a final > edit/proofreading? The traditional way was to put it in a specific > folder whose contents could be checked up on periodically. If you don't > do that, it would hav

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-05 Thread Hazel Russman
On Sat, 4 Aug 2012 20:42:37 +0300 David Nelson wrote: > Hi Jean, > OK, the workflow we originally set-up on Alfresco is a bit like Snakes > & Ladders. The doc start in the "Drafts" folder. A considered-ready > draft gets approved and goes forward to the "Review" folder. A > reviewer proofreads i

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-04 Thread David Nelson
Hi Jean, On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Jean Weber wrote: > BTW, this wiki page includes a diagram of the workflow used by > ODFAuthors for many years for docs production. The descriptive text is > a bit out of date (especially info on naming convention) and not > relevant to Alfresco (again, na

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-04 Thread David Nelson
Hi Jean, I'll reply to you mail by mail... On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Jean Weber wrote: > David, I see you have provided the Enterprise edition of two of the > Alfresco manuals. Aren't we using the Community Edition of Alfresco? > Are there differences? Or perhaps Alfresco has not updated th

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-04 Thread Jean Weber
BTW, this wiki page includes a diagram of the workflow used by ODFAuthors for many years for docs production. The descriptive text is a bit out of date (especially info on naming convention) and not relevant to Alfresco (again, naming convention), but the general flow is one I think should be adapt

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-04 Thread Jean Weber
David, I see you have provided the Enterprise edition of two of the Alfresco manuals. Aren't we using the Community Edition of Alfresco? Are there differences? Or perhaps Alfresco has not updated the Community Edition manuals? --Jean On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Jean Weber wrote: > Ah, I now

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-04 Thread Jean Weber
Ah, I now see these are PDFs. That helps! --Jean On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Jean Weber wrote: > Hi David, > Thanks for starting this discussion, even though your timing is unfortunate > for me. I am travelling, with limited Internet access and only inconvenient > ways to view ODT files on

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-04 Thread Jean Weber
Hi David, Thanks for starting this discussion, even though your timing is unfortunate for me. I am travelling, with limited Internet access and only inconvenient ways to view ODT files on my iPad. I may not get a chance to deal with this until mid-August, but I'll try. --Jean On 04/08/2012, a

[libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco documentation: brainstorming about the LibreOffice docs team workflow

2012-08-04 Thread David Nelson
Hi, Jean, Sanket, guys, If you have time, I would just like to start a brainstorming about the docs team workflow, as it is now and how it might be if Alfresco was the primary working platform. For this, I have downloaded Alfresco documentation from the Alfresco project about "generic" use of Alf