Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-16 Thread Mark Stanton
Thanks Jean, That works just fine. Regards Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documen

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-15 Thread Lailah
I can understand why is more flexible but not the simplistic/complex thing. I think that saying that something is a "simplistic tool" is a good way to confuse people, especially those who has a little or zero experience with databases. I think is better to say something like "This is the LibreO

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-14 Thread drew jensen
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 12:30 +, Mark Stanton wrote: > Hi Drew, > > > You can connect to an Access Database as a data source, but you are not > > able to make much if any use of major parts of the data (beyond the > > tables) held in the MS Access file. > > Could you explain please (I don't kno

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-14 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Drew, > You can connect to an Access Database as a data source, but you are not > able to make much if any use of major parts of the data (beyond the > tables) held in the MS Access file. Could you explain please (I don't know Access very well at all)? > Some of the things that the manual sh

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-14 Thread drew jensen
wrote: > > From: drew jensen > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress > To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org > Date: Wednesday, 14 March, 2012, 2:18 > > On Tue, 2012-03-13 at 09:16 -0300, Lailah wrote: > > Tom: > >

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-14 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) All good :)  It is great to see this level of discussion about Base at last.  It would be really great if there was a mailing list just for Base imo but there isn't.  Regards from Tom :) --- On Tue, 13/3/12, Rogerio Luz Coelho wrote: What I was doing is giving some brainstormig respons

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-14 Thread Tom Davies
n Wed, 14/3/12, drew jensen wrote: From: drew jensen Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 14 March, 2012, 2:18 On Tue, 2012-03-13 at 09:16 -0300, Lailah wrote: > Tom: >             I agree wit

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-13 Thread Jean Weber
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 13:20, drew jensen wrote: > On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 23:54 +, Mark Stanton wrote: >> None of my "content" comments are version specific at all.  They're >> more to do with the concepts that Dan's putting forward. >> >> Disagreement, discussion and resolution (preferably in

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-13 Thread drew jensen
On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 23:54 +, Mark Stanton wrote: > None of my "content" comments are version specific at all. They're > more to do with the concepts that Dan's putting forward. > > Disagreement, discussion and resolution (preferably in that order, > though perhaps with a couple more loops

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-13 Thread drew jensen
java can also often be a problem but it's easier > > to handle on > > the Users List or in forums because more "normal" users are familiar with > > dealing with java problems. > > > > So, i don't envy anyone trying to write or develop docume

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-13 Thread drew jensen
On Sun, 2012-03-11 at 19:37 -0400, Dan Lewis wrote: > On Sun, 2012-03-11 at 22:15 +, Mark Stanton wrote: > > > I think it might be fastest for Hazel to complete it. > > > > Too late! Update in the drafts folder just now. > > Mostly content, since Hazel's proof reading is great. > > > > Sin

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-13 Thread Rogerio Luz Coelho
2012/3/13 Jean Weber > I agree with what Dan said earlier in this thread, > ".. the Base Guide > should describe what can be done with Base. As such, mentioning other > programs other than to provide instructions as to how to access > databases made by them serves no purpose at all. But I see no

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-13 Thread Jean Weber
I agree with what Dan said earlier in this thread, ".. the Base Guide should describe what can be done with Base. As such, mentioning other programs other than to provide instructions as to how to access databases made by them serves no purpose at all. But I see no purpose to include negative comme

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-13 Thread Tom Davies
hings between ourselves because there seemed to be a little confusion somewhere.  Regards from Tom :) --- On Tue, 13/3/12, Lailah wrote: From: Lailah Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Tuesday, 13 March, 2012,

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-13 Thread Lailah
;normal" users are familiar with > dealing with java problems. > > So, i don't envy anyone trying to write or develop documentation or Faqs or > anything because it's difficult to know what to aim for. It seems to be a > moving target too. > > Regard

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-12 Thread Mark Stanton
None of my "content" comments are version specific at all. They're more to do with the concepts that Dan's putting forward. Disagreement, discussion and resolution (preferably in that order, though perhaps with a couple more loops) very welcome. Regards Mark Stanton One small step for mankind.

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-12 Thread Hazel Russman
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 22:15:59 - Mark Stanton wrote: > Too late! Update in the drafts folder just now. > Mostly content, since Hazel's proof reading is great. > > Since a lot of it is about the content, there are many "notes" rather than > changes of > text. OK. I've got it now. I'll try to

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-12 Thread Dan Lewis
On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 08:52 +, Mark Stanton wrote: > > Then what purpose does Base serve using HSQLDB as its database > > engine? Why even write the Base Guide if the whole thing is > > going to be changed? > > Because Base can use a wide range of database programs to hold and > "dispense" t

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-12 Thread Tom Davies
t to aim for.  It seems to be a moving target too.  Regards from Tom :) --- On Mon, 12/3/12, Mark Stanton wrote: From: Mark Stanton Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Monday, 12 March, 2012, 8:52 > Then what

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-12 Thread Mark Stanton
> Fire one! [;-) ] Dive dive dive... :-D > How do we tell them that Base may not be the program for them? I don't think that is ever the case : 1) If they want to store & manipulate data 2) if we ignore/allow for the broken bits of the program > I have not downloaded what you have done

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-12 Thread Mark Stanton
> Then what purpose does Base serve using HSQLDB as its database > engine? Why even write the Base Guide if the whole thing is > going to be changed? Because Base can use a wide range of database programs to hold and "dispense" the data is uses, the guide doesn't have to be "about" any of them.

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-11 Thread Dan Lewis
Comments inline: On Sun, 2012-03-11 at 22:04 -0300, Rogerio Luz Coelho wrote: > 2012/3/11 Dan Lewis > > > On Sun, 2012-03-11 at 22:15 +, Mark Stanton wrote: > > > > I think it might be fastest for Hazel to complete it. > > > > > > Too late! Update in the drafts folder just now. > > > Mostly

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-11 Thread Rogerio Luz Coelho
2012/3/11 Dan Lewis > On Sun, 2012-03-11 at 22:15 +, Mark Stanton wrote: > > > I think it might be fastest for Hazel to complete it. > > > > Too late! Update in the drafts folder just now. > > Mostly content, since Hazel's proof reading is great. > > > > Since a lot of it is about the conten

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-11 Thread Dan Lewis
On Sun, 2012-03-11 at 22:15 +, Mark Stanton wrote: > > I think it might be fastest for Hazel to complete it. > > Too late! Update in the drafts folder just now. > Mostly content, since Hazel's proof reading is great. > > Since a lot of it is about the content, there are many "notes" rather

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-11 Thread Mark Stanton
> I think it might be fastest for Hazel to complete it. Too late! Update in the drafts folder just now. Mostly content, since Hazel's proof reading is great. Since a lot of it is about the content, there are many "notes" rather than changes of text. It's really important to make the distinc

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think it might be fastest for Hazel to complete it.  So go for it if you are up for it Hazel :) Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 11/3/12, Hazel Russman wrote: From: Hazel Russman Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress To: "Dan Lewis

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-11 Thread Hazel Russman
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 13:23:41 -0500 Dan Lewis wrote: > On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 15:22 +, Hazel Russman wrote: > > On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 18:54:54 -0500 > > Dan Lewis wrote: > > > > > FYI: I have replaced this chapter with an update as of this > > > evening (2012-03-09 7:00 PM EST -5:00) on th

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Welcome back Hazel!! :)) Regards from Tom :) --- On Sat, 10/3/12, Hazel Russman wrote: From: Hazel Russman Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Cc: elderdanle...@gmail.com Date: Saturday, 10 March, 2012, 15:22

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-10 Thread Dan Lewis
On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 15:22 +, Hazel Russman wrote: > On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 18:54:54 -0500 > Dan Lewis wrote: > > > FYI: I have replaced this chapter with an update as of this > > evening (2012-03-09 7:00 PM EST -5:00) on the ODFA webside in the > > Base Draft folder. > > This update

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-10 Thread Hazel Russman
On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 18:54:54 -0500 Dan Lewis wrote: > FYI: I have replaced this chapter with an update as of this > evening (2012-03-09 7:00 PM EST -5:00) on the ODFA webside in the > Base Draft folder. > This update includes the corrections made by Hazel with a comment > placed where s

[libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 2 of Base Guide progress

2012-03-09 Thread Dan Lewis
FYI: I have replaced this chapter with an update as of this evening (2012-03-09 7:00 PM EST -5:00) on the ODFA webside in the Base Draft folder. This update includes the corrections made by Hazel with a comment placed where she stopped proofreading. My plans are to periodically uploa