Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base-Handbook 5.0 -chapter 2

2015-08-28 Thread Robert Großkopf
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Hi *,

and here the next:
chapter 8

http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/lo_hb_en/BH5008-Tasks.odt
Only new screenshots inserted, also German text - so must be translated.

Regards

Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base-Handbook 5.0 -chapter 2

2015-08-24 Thread elderdanlewis


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From: Robert Großkopf rob...@familiegrosskopf.de 
Date:08/24/2015  1:33 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base-Handbook 5.0 -chapter 2 

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Hi *,

and here the next:
chapter 7

http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/lo_hb_en/BH5007-Linking.odt
Only new screenshots inserted, also German text - so must be translated.

The last macros I created were directly created referring to English.
So it's faster to copy the content and better for international
understanding.

There are much problems with styles in the different chapters of the
Handbook. Persons, who translated it for LO 3.5, often didn't change
the the style from the German Handbook to the English Handbook. So all
text is red underlined. Also the styles aren't complete identical.
Mouch to do for a person who is interested in a consistent style off
all English descriptions.

 What I have done is load the styles from the 5.0 template. Then I search 
for the German styles and replace them with the English styles. The character 
styles are a little harder to find and replace. 

Content of every chapter shows also the Copyright and Note for Mac
users. In all German chapters these headers of the same second page
of every chapter aren't shown in the content.

 Both of these have been shown in the English guides since version 3.4. In 
5.0, all of the headings appear in the TOC. 

Regards

Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base-Handbook 5.0 -chapter 2

2015-08-23 Thread Robert Großkopf
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Hi *,

and here the next:
chapter 6

http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/lo_hb_en/BH5006-Reports.odt
Only new screenshots inserted, also German text - so must be translated.
Code (Macro, SQL) already translated.

Regards

Robert
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base-Handbook 5.0 -chapter 2

2015-08-23 Thread Robert Großkopf
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Hi *,

and here the next:
chapter 7

http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/lo_hb_en/BH5007-Linking.odt
Only new screenshots inserted, also German text - so must be translated.

The last macros I created were directly created referring to English.
So it's faster to copy the content and better for international
understanding.

There are much problems with styles in the different chapters of the
Handbook. Persons, who translated it for LO 3.5, often didn't change
the the style from the German Handbook to the English Handbook. So all
text is red underlined. Also the styles aren't complete identical.
Mouch to do for a person who is interested in a consistent style off
all English descriptions.

Content of every chapter shows also the Copyright and Note for Mac
users. In all German chapters these headers of the same second page
of every chapter aren't shown in the content.

Regards

Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base-Handbook 5.0 -chapter 2

2015-08-22 Thread Robert Großkopf
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Hi *,

and here the next:
chapter 5

http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/lo_hb_en/BH5005-Queries.odt
Only new screenshots inserted, also German text - so must be translated.

Nearly all queries in the handbook for version LO 3.5 were formatted
without returns. Queries should be formatted like all other coputercode
- - not like the xml-Code of an *.odt-document for example. This is a
problem of the internal query-editor of Base - it ignores all formatting
and will write the whole code in one row. For better understanding we
should format it a little bit better - see the German Handbuch.

Styles have also to be fixed. Special this chapter has much styles from
the German Handbuch, not the styles from the English version. The German
Handbuch has Styles, which begin with LibO... and have set the language
to Deutsch.

Tables and fields are not exactly named as in the example databases. I
hope I have found all wrong field- and tablenames and have fixed them ...

Regards

Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base-Handbook 5.0 -chapter 2

2015-08-19 Thread Robert Großkopf
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Hi *,

now chapter 4

http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/lo_hb_en/BH5004-Forms.odt

Only new screenshots inserted, also German text - so must be translated.

Regards

Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base-Handbook 5.0 -chapter 2

2015-08-16 Thread Hazel Russman
On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 12:07:49 +0200
Robert Großkopf rob...@familiegrosskopf.de wrote:

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 Hi *,
 
 and here the next:
 chapter 3
 
 http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/lo_hb_en/BH5003-Tables.odt
 Only new screenshots inserted, also German text - so must be
 translated.
 
 Regards
 
 Robert

I've downloaded this and am working on it.

Hazel Russman

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base-Handbook 5.0 -chapter 2

2015-08-16 Thread Robert Großkopf
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Hi *,

and here the next:
chapter 3

http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/lo_hb_en/BH5003-Tables.odt
Only new screenshots inserted, also German text - so must be translated.

Regards

Robert
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base-Handbook 5.0 -chapter 2

2015-08-16 Thread Dave Barton
 Original Message  
From: Hazel Russman
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 13:51:58 +0100

 On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 12:07:49 +0200
 Robert Großkopf rob...@familiegrosskopf.de wrote:
 
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 Hi *,

 and here the next:
 chapter 3

 http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/lo_hb_en/BH5003-Tables.odt
 Only new screenshots inserted, also German text - so must be
 translated.

 Regards

 Robert
 
 I've downloaded this and am working on it.
 
 Hazel Russman

Thanks Hazel. When you have finished please return your work to the ODF
Authors Reviewed folder:
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/base-handbook/reviewed_5.0

The status of the handbook preparation can be seen here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UserGuideTasks#Base_Handbook

Dave




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RE: [libreoffice-documentation] Base handbook 5.0 in OmegaT

2015-08-09 Thread elderdanlewis
   This sounds like the way to go. It will speed up the process. 
   I for one would like to have documentation on how to do this so that I can 
do it also. I have not found it yet. 

Dan

 Original message 
From: Milos Sramek msrame...@gmail.com 
Date:08/09/2015  4:26 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Documentation@global.libreoffice.org 
documentation@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Base handbook 5.0 in OmegaT 

Hi,

some months ago I have already written about this: I suggest to use
omegat for translation of the handbook. My experience is that this will
simplify and speed up the translation process and will enable to reuse
old translations for new BH versions in the future

If you agree I will
- set up the environment at https://github.com/LibreOffice/OmegaT
- transfer there all existing BH translations
- upload  German - English translation of GUI strings (so that one
needs not to guess)
- translate the whole guide by Google translate, so that it can be used
to avoid some typing

The next week I will probably not have access to the Internet, but then
I have time to work on that

best regards
Milos


On 2015-08-09 03:09, elderdanlewis wrote:
Hazel will be very helpful in translating some of the chapters. At some 
 point I want to try to do some of them. I will have to use the same process 
 as Robert: word by word. (I do have two years of college German.)
As I began reviewing chapter one,I was able to make changes because I have 
 a good knowledge of how Base works in English. So it seems that translating 
 something into one's native language can be easier than translating something 
 from it with a good background in the subject.
I seem to live the furthest west of the four of us (UTC-4).So, this 
 determines when I do things. 
 
 Dan
 


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Handbook 5.0

2015-08-08 Thread Hazel Russman
On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:13:23 -0400
elderdanlewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 If you want others to review your work, should we upload this material
 to a new Base Handbook 5 folder on the ODF Authors website and
 process this through the the normal review/edit procedure there?
 
 As a matter of general interest, is there any kind of review/edit
 process used in the production of the German edition of this handbook,
 or is this something you work on alone? My reason for asking is to see
 if there is a way to refine the ODF Authors review process to make it
 easier for new contributors to follow. Milos Sramek did not get any
 feedback when he raised this issue some time ago, but I believe it is
 something we need to give some consideration.
 
 BTW I will not start laughing a your translations until my knowledge
 of German is better than your knowledge of English. Which means you
 will not hear a single giggle from me for a very very long time. ;)
 
 Thanks  Regards
 
 Dave
 
 I have downloaded chapter 1 to review it. There is a method for doing
 this. Right now I don't remember where this information is. I will
 send it to you by tomorrow morning. As soon as I can get the review
 done, I will upload it to the Base Handbook folder. That is when you
 can give it an review. I will tell you when I finish. Meanwhile, I
 noticed one thing that needs to be done before anything else:
 converted to the 5.0 template. I will be doing this later today. 
 
 Dan

I'd like to do my bit but I don't want to accidentally duplicate
someone else's work. If someone could assign me specific chapters to
work on, that would be best for me. Correcting English as she is
spoken is one of the things I enjoy doing.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Handbook 5.0

2015-08-08 Thread Dave Barton
Hi Robert,

 Original Message 
From: Robert Großkopf
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 20:52:34 +0200

 Hi Dave,
  If you want others to review your work, should we upload this
  material to a new Base Handbook 5 folder on the ODF Authors
  website and process this through the the normal review/edit
  procedure there?
 In the beginning of documentation I have used ODF-Authors also. Must
 have a look how it works.
  As a matter of general interest, is there any kind of review/edit
  process used in the production of the German edition of this
  handbook, or is this something you work on alone?
 The first Handbuch has been reviewed from other persons. Only a part
 the content of chapter Macros for this first Handbuch has been
 edited by someone else. Also the index has been created by someone
 else. All other content I have written and other people have had a
 look for orthography. So there was no reason to use ODF-Authors. I
 have first uploaded the content to my website and with the new release
 of every LO-Version I uploaded also a new version of Base-Handbuch to
 the wiki and linked it to the german LO-homepage.

No, I was not suggesting you should use the ODF Authors website.

  My reason for asking is to see if there is a way to refine the ODF
  Authors review process to make it easier for new contributors to
  follow. Milos Sramek did not get any feedback when he raised this
  issue some time ago, but I believe it is something we need to give
  some consideration.
 We could work with ODF-Autors. But for many people I am a little bit
 impatient ... I want to get a new Base-Handbook in the same
 release-cycle as LO. This is how the Geramn Handbuch is released.

You should use whatever method works for you and the German team.
I was just interested if there was something you were doing that could
be adapted for the English section of the ODF Authors process. With a
few exceptions, it seems that we lack a sufficient number of
contributors with your determination (impatience) to get the job done.

  BTW I will not start laughing a your translations until my
  knowledge of German is better than your knowledge of English. Which
  means you will not hear a single giggle from me for a very very
  long time. ;)
 A little bit fun while reading a book isn't wrong.

 Regards

 Robert

It would be great if you could find the time to do some more
translations of the other chapters. Any chance you could encourage some
of the German team's bi/multi-lingual members to help out with this? I
seem to recall that Hazel helped out with previous translations of the
Base Handbook, but I don't know if she is still available and/or willing
to work on this revised edition. There are possibly others who I have
overlooked, but it would be really good if we could get enough
translators to a complete and publish an English edition within a
reasonable period of time.

Again many thanks for your excellent work on the Base Handbook.

Regards
Dave



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Handbook 5.0

2015-08-08 Thread Dave Barton
 Original Message  
From: Hazel Russman
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:50:56 +0100

 On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:13:23 -0400
 elderdanlewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:
 

 If you want others to review your work, should we upload this material
 to a new Base Handbook 5 folder on the ODF Authors website and
 process this through the the normal review/edit procedure there?

 As a matter of general interest, is there any kind of review/edit
 process used in the production of the German edition of this handbook,
 or is this something you work on alone? My reason for asking is to see
 if there is a way to refine the ODF Authors review process to make it
 easier for new contributors to follow. Milos Sramek did not get any
 feedback when he raised this issue some time ago, but I believe it is
 something we need to give some consideration.

 BTW I will not start laughing a your translations until my knowledge
 of German is better than your knowledge of English. Which means you
 will not hear a single giggle from me for a very very long time. ;)

 Thanks  Regards

 Dave

 I have downloaded chapter 1 to review it. There is a method for doing
 this. Right now I don't remember where this information is. I will
 send it to you by tomorrow morning. As soon as I can get the review
 done, I will upload it to the Base Handbook folder. That is when you
 can give it an review. I will tell you when I finish. Meanwhile, I
 noticed one thing that needs to be done before anything else:
 converted to the 5.0 template. I will be doing this later today. 

 Dan
 
 I'd like to do my bit but I don't want to accidentally duplicate
 someone else's work. If someone could assign me specific chapters to
 work on, that would be best for me. Correcting English as she is
 spoken is one of the things I enjoy doing.

Hello Hazel,

Great to see you posting here again.

Maybe I got it wrong in an earlier post, where I suggested that you
understood German. I may have got the idea from seeing your name against
reviews of previous revisions of the handbook, where you applied your
grammatical skills to the English translations.

If it is acceptable to others here, I am willing to coordinate the
compilation of the Base Handbook - English Edition and try to avoid
duplicated work.

Dan is currently reviewing Robert's translation of Chapter 1 and based
on the tone of his previous post, is keen to upload this for further
review. Since nobody else has come forward yet, please work on Dan's
review when it becomes available.

Thanks  Regards
Dave



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Handbook 5.0

2015-08-08 Thread Dave Barton
 Original Message  
From: Dan Lewis
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 20:58:47 -0400

8-- snip --8

 This link should help you some. It will keep you a little busy too.
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development
 
 Dan

Thanks Dan,

I wrote, or at least edited, some of that page. ;)

Regards
Dave



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Handbook 5.0

2015-08-08 Thread Hazel Russman
On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 13:37:00 +0200
Dave Barton d...@tasit.net wrote:

  Original Message  
 From: Hazel Russman
 Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:50:56 +0100
 
  On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:13:23 -0400
  elderdanlewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 
  If you want others to review your work, should we upload this
  material to a new Base Handbook 5 folder on the ODF Authors
  website and process this through the the normal review/edit
  procedure there?
 
  As a matter of general interest, is there any kind of review/edit
  process used in the production of the German edition of this
  handbook, or is this something you work on alone? My reason for
  asking is to see if there is a way to refine the ODF Authors
  review process to make it easier for new contributors to follow.
  Milos Sramek did not get any feedback when he raised this issue
  some time ago, but I believe it is something we need to give some
  consideration.
 
  BTW I will not start laughing a your translations until my
  knowledge of German is better than your knowledge of English.
  Which means you will not hear a single giggle from me for a very
  very long time. ;)
 
  Thanks  Regards
 
  Dave
 
  I have downloaded chapter 1 to review it. There is a method for
  doing this. Right now I don't remember where this information is.
  I will send it to you by tomorrow morning. As soon as I can get
  the review done, I will upload it to the Base Handbook folder.
  That is when you can give it an review. I will tell you when I
  finish. Meanwhile, I noticed one thing that needs to be done
  before anything else: converted to the 5.0 template. I will be
  doing this later today. 
 
  Dan
  
  I'd like to do my bit but I don't want to accidentally duplicate
  someone else's work. If someone could assign me specific chapters to
  work on, that would be best for me. Correcting English as she is
  spoken is one of the things I enjoy doing.
 
 Hello Hazel,
 
 Great to see you posting here again.
 
 Maybe I got it wrong in an earlier post, where I suggested that you
 understood German. I may have got the idea from seeing your name
 against reviews of previous revisions of the handbook, where you
 applied your grammatical skills to the English translations.
 
 If it is acceptable to others here, I am willing to coordinate the
 compilation of the Base Handbook - English Edition and try to avoid
 duplicated work.
 
 Dan is currently reviewing Robert's translation of Chapter 1 and based
 on the tone of his previous post, is keen to upload this for further
 review. Since nobody else has come forward yet, please work on Dan's
 review when it becomes available.
 
 Thanks  Regards
 Dave
 
 
 
Oh I know quite a lot of German! My parents were both native German
speakers. In fact I was the one who translated most of Robert's earler
Base Handbook.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Handbook 5.0

2015-08-08 Thread Dave Barton
Hazel Russman wrote:
 On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 13:37:00 +0200
 Dave Barton d...@tasit.net wrote:
 
  Original Message  
 From: Hazel Russman
 Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:50:56 +0100

 On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:13:23 -0400
 elderdanlewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:


 If you want others to review your work, should we upload this
 material to a new Base Handbook 5 folder on the ODF Authors
 website and process this through the the normal review/edit
 procedure there?

 As a matter of general interest, is there any kind of review/edit
 process used in the production of the German edition of this
 handbook, or is this something you work on alone? My reason for
 asking is to see if there is a way to refine the ODF Authors
 review process to make it easier for new contributors to follow.
 Milos Sramek did not get any feedback when he raised this issue
 some time ago, but I believe it is something we need to give some
 consideration.

 BTW I will not start laughing a your translations until my
 knowledge of German is better than your knowledge of English.
 Which means you will not hear a single giggle from me for a very
 very long time. ;)

 Thanks  Regards

 Dave

 I have downloaded chapter 1 to review it. There is a method for
 doing this. Right now I don't remember where this information is.
 I will send it to you by tomorrow morning. As soon as I can get
 the review done, I will upload it to the Base Handbook folder.
 That is when you can give it an review. I will tell you when I
 finish. Meanwhile, I noticed one thing that needs to be done
 before anything else: converted to the 5.0 template. I will be
 doing this later today. 

 Dan

 I'd like to do my bit but I don't want to accidentally duplicate
 someone else's work. If someone could assign me specific chapters to
 work on, that would be best for me. Correcting English as she is
 spoken is one of the things I enjoy doing.

 Hello Hazel,

 Great to see you posting here again.

 Maybe I got it wrong in an earlier post, where I suggested that you
 understood German. I may have got the idea from seeing your name
 against reviews of previous revisions of the handbook, where you
 applied your grammatical skills to the English translations.

 If it is acceptable to others here, I am willing to coordinate the
 compilation of the Base Handbook - English Edition and try to avoid
 duplicated work.

 Dan is currently reviewing Robert's translation of Chapter 1 and based
 on the tone of his previous post, is keen to upload this for further
 review. Since nobody else has come forward yet, please work on Dan's
 review when it becomes available.

 Thanks  Regards
 Dave



 Oh I know quite a lot of German! My parents were both native German
 speakers. In fact I was the one who translated most of Robert's earler
 Base Handbook.

So I got it right the first time and memory failed me on the second
guess. Apologies for the misleading suggestion.

BTW. I am subscribed to this list, so a cc is not necessary.

Best Regards
Dave



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Handbook 5.0

2015-08-07 Thread elderdanlewis


 Original message 
From: Dave Barton d...@tasit.net 
Date:08/07/2015  1:33 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Handbook 5.0 

 Original Message  
From: Robert Großkopf
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 10:59:56 +0200

 Hi *,
 
 I have tried to translate the first chapter of the German
 Base-handbuch 5.0.
 The german version is already published here:
 http://de.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
 
 I have uploaded the English version here:
 http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/lo_hb_en/
 
 All chapters would begin with BH5 ...
 For chapter Preface I haven't changed anything I found in the
 English BH35. To chapter Introducion ... I added a lot.
 
 I have set Writer to Edit  Track Changes  Record Changes / Show Changes.
 
 If there is anybody, who want to have a look and want to laugh a
 little bit about the combination of Google Translater and a person,
 who couldn't write English very well ...
 
 I will try to translate the other chapters the same way. So I could
 add new content, when editing the German version, directly to the
 English version.
 
 Hope this would help to publish a newer Verion of the English Handbook
 nearly at the same time than the German Handbuch.
 
 Regards
 
 Robert

Hi Robert,

First a very big thank you for your work on the original German Base
Handbook and for starting the contribution of English translations.

If you want others to review your work, should we upload this material
to a new Base Handbook 5 folder on the ODF Authors website and process
this through the the normal review/edit procedure there?

As a matter of general interest, is there any kind of review/edit
process used in the production of the German edition of this handbook,
or is this something you work on alone? My reason for asking is to see
if there is a way to refine the ODF Authors review process to make it
easier for new contributors to follow. Milos Sramek did not get any
feedback when he raised this issue some time ago, but I believe it is
something we need to give some consideration.

BTW I will not start laughing a your translations until my knowledge of
German is better than your knowledge of English. Which means you will
not hear a single giggle from me for a very very long time. ;)

Thanks  Regards

Dave

I have downloaded chapter 1 to review it. There is a method for doing this. 
Right now I don't remember where this information is. I will send it to you by 
tomorrow morning. As soon as I can get the review done, I will upload it to the 
Base Handbook folder. That is when you can give it an review. I will tell you 
when I finish. 
   Meanwhile, I noticed one thing that needs to be done before anything else: 
converted to the 5.0 template. I will be doing this later today. 

Dan
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Handbook 5.0

2015-08-07 Thread Robert Großkopf
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Hi Dave,
 
 If you want others to review your work, should we upload this
 material to a new Base Handbook 5 folder on the ODF Authors
 website and process this through the the normal review/edit
 procedure there?

In the beginning of documentation I have used ODF-Authors also. Must
have a look how it works.
 
 As a matter of general interest, is there any kind of review/edit 
 process used in the production of the German edition of this
 handbook, or is this something you work on alone?

The first Handbuch has been reviewed from other persons. Only a part
the content of chapter Macros for this first Handbuch has been
edited by someone else. Also the index has been created by someone
else. All other content I have written and other people have had a
look for orthography. So there was no reason to use ODF-Authors. I
have first uploaded the content to my website and with the new release
of every LO-Version I uploaded also a new version of Base-Handbuch to
the wiki and linked it to the german LO-homepage.

 My reason for asking is to see if there is a way to refine the ODF
 Authors review process to make it easier for new contributors to
 follow. Milos Sramek did not get any feedback when he raised this
 issue some time ago, but I believe it is something we need to give
 some consideration.

We could work with ODF-Autors. But for many people I am a little bit
impatient ... I want to get a new Base-Handbook in the same
release-cycle as LO. This is how the Geramn Handbuch is released.
 
 BTW I will not start laughing a your translations until my
 knowledge of German is better than your knowledge of English. Which
 means you will not hear a single giggle from me for a very very
 long time. ;)

A little bit fun while reading a book isn't wrong.

Regards

Robert
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Handbook 5.0

2015-08-07 Thread Dave Barton
 Original Message  
From: Robert Großkopf
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 10:59:56 +0200

 Hi *,
 
 I have tried to translate the first chapter of the German
 Base-handbuch 5.0.
 The german version is already published here:
 http://de.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
 
 I have uploaded the English version here:
 http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/lo_hb_en/
 
 All chapters would begin with BH5 ...
 For chapter Preface I haven't changed anything I found in the
 English BH35. To chapter Introducion ... I added a lot.
 
 I have set Writer to Edit  Track Changes  Record Changes / Show Changes.
 
 If there is anybody, who want to have a look and want to laugh a
 little bit about the combination of Google Translater and a person,
 who couldn't write English very well ...
 
 I will try to translate the other chapters the same way. So I could
 add new content, when editing the German version, directly to the
 English version.
 
 Hope this would help to publish a newer Verion of the English Handbook
 nearly at the same time than the German Handbuch.
 
 Regards
 
 Robert

Hi Robert,

First a very big thank you for your work on the original German Base
Handbook and for starting the contribution of English translations.

If you want others to review your work, should we upload this material
to a new Base Handbook 5 folder on the ODF Authors website and process
this through the the normal review/edit procedure there?

As a matter of general interest, is there any kind of review/edit
process used in the production of the German edition of this handbook,
or is this something you work on alone? My reason for asking is to see
if there is a way to refine the ODF Authors review process to make it
easier for new contributors to follow. Milos Sramek did not get any
feedback when he raised this issue some time ago, but I believe it is
something we need to give some consideration.

BTW I will not start laughing a your translations until my knowledge of
German is better than your knowledge of English. Which means you will
not hear a single giggle from me for a very very long time. ;)

Thanks  Regards

Dave




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Handbook 5.0

2015-08-07 Thread Dave Barton
elderdanlewis wrote:
 
 
  Original message 
 From: Dave Barton d...@tasit.net 
 Date:08/07/2015  1:33 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
 To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org 
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Handbook 5.0 
 
  Original Message  
 From: Robert Großkopf
 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 10:59:56 +0200
 
 Hi *,

 I have tried to translate the first chapter of the German
 Base-handbuch 5.0.
 The german version is already published here:
 http://de.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/

 I have uploaded the English version here:
 http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/lo_hb_en/

 All chapters would begin with BH5 ...
 For chapter Preface I haven't changed anything I found in the
 English BH35. To chapter Introducion ... I added a lot.

 I have set Writer to Edit  Track Changes  Record Changes / Show Changes.

 If there is anybody, who want to have a look and want to laugh a
 little bit about the combination of Google Translater and a person,
 who couldn't write English very well ...

 I will try to translate the other chapters the same way. So I could
 add new content, when editing the German version, directly to the
 English version.

 Hope this would help to publish a newer Verion of the English Handbook
 nearly at the same time than the German Handbuch.

 Regards

 Robert
 
 Hi Robert,
 
 First a very big thank you for your work on the original German Base
 Handbook and for starting the contribution of English translations.
 
 If you want others to review your work, should we upload this material
 to a new Base Handbook 5 folder on the ODF Authors website and process
 this through the the normal review/edit procedure there?
 
 As a matter of general interest, is there any kind of review/edit
 process used in the production of the German edition of this handbook,
 or is this something you work on alone? My reason for asking is to see
 if there is a way to refine the ODF Authors review process to make it
 easier for new contributors to follow. Milos Sramek did not get any
 feedback when he raised this issue some time ago, but I believe it is
 something we need to give some consideration.
 
 BTW I will not start laughing a your translations until my knowledge of
 German is better than your knowledge of English. Which means you will
 not hear a single giggle from me for a very very long time. ;)
 
 Thanks  Regards
 
 Dave
 
 I have downloaded chapter 1 to review it. There is a method for doing this. 
 Right now I don't remember where this information is. I will send it to you 
 by tomorrow morning. As soon as I can get the review done, I will upload it 
 to the Base Handbook folder. That is when you can give it an review. I will 
 tell you when I finish. 
Meanwhile, I noticed one thing that needs to be done before anything else: 
 converted to the 5.0 template. I will be doing this later today. 
 
 Dan

Hi Dan,

Since you have a greater understanding of Base than many of us here,
it's great to see that you have picked this up. Thanks very much.

It getting late for me now, but I will do the necessary prep work on the
ODF Authors website in a few hours time and get back to you.

I will also answer Robert when I have had some much needed sleep.

Thanks to you both.

Regards
Dave




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Handbook 5.0

2015-08-07 Thread Dan Lewis

On 08/07/2015 05:06 PM, Dave Barton wrote:

elderdanlewis wrote:


 Original message 
From: Dave Barton d...@tasit.net
Date:08/07/2015  1:33 PM  (GMT-05:00)
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Handbook 5.0

 Original Message  
From: Robert Großkopf
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 10:59:56 +0200


Hi *,

I have tried to translate the first chapter of the German
Base-handbuch 5.0.
The german version is already published here:
http://de.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/

I have uploaded the English version here:
http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/lo_hb_en/

All chapters would begin with BH5 ...
For chapter Preface I haven't changed anything I found in the
English BH35. To chapter Introducion ... I added a lot.

I have set Writer to Edit  Track Changes  Record Changes / Show Changes.

If there is anybody, who want to have a look and want to laugh a
little bit about the combination of Google Translater and a person,
who couldn't write English very well ...

I will try to translate the other chapters the same way. So I could
add new content, when editing the German version, directly to the
English version.

Hope this would help to publish a newer Verion of the English Handbook
nearly at the same time than the German Handbuch.

Regards

Robert

Hi Robert,

First a very big thank you for your work on the original German Base
Handbook and for starting the contribution of English translations.

If you want others to review your work, should we upload this material
to a new Base Handbook 5 folder on the ODF Authors website and process
this through the the normal review/edit procedure there?

As a matter of general interest, is there any kind of review/edit
process used in the production of the German edition of this handbook,
or is this something you work on alone? My reason for asking is to see
if there is a way to refine the ODF Authors review process to make it
easier for new contributors to follow. Milos Sramek did not get any
feedback when he raised this issue some time ago, but I believe it is
something we need to give some consideration.

BTW I will not start laughing a your translations until my knowledge of
German is better than your knowledge of English. Which means you will
not hear a single giggle from me for a very very long time. ;)

Thanks  Regards

Dave

I have downloaded chapter 1 to review it. There is a method for doing this. 
Right now I don't remember where this information is. I will send it to you by 
tomorrow morning. As soon as I can get the review done, I will upload it to the 
Base Handbook folder. That is when you can give it an review. I will tell you 
when I finish.
Meanwhile, I noticed one thing that needs to be done before anything else: 
converted to the 5.0 template. I will be doing this later today.

Dan

Hi Dan,

Since you have a greater understanding of Base than many of us here,
it's great to see that you have picked this up. Thanks very much.

It getting late for me now, but I will do the necessary prep work on the
ODF Authors website in a few hours time and get back to you.

I will also answer Robert when I have had some much needed sleep.

Thanks to you both.

Regards
Dave

This link should help you some. It will keep you a little busy too.
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development

Dan

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