Re: [Dorset] BOINC Statistics

[Andrew]

On 31/03/2020 23:24, Patrick Wigmore wrote:

Meanwhile, it looks the Rosetta@home job queue has run completely dry
and my machine has run out of jobs to process, though over a million
jobs are still being processed by other clients.


From here:
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/server_status.php

Users registered in past 24 hours: 1005
Computers registered in past 24 hours: 17848

That's a lot of computers!

I have a couple of computers which were only running Rosetta@home. One 
still has tasks, one had run out.
They are now on World Community Grid as well, so they can continue to do 
useful science.
I can see the Resource Share in the GUI BOINC Manager per project, but I 
haven't figured out how to change it yet...


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Re: [Dorset] BOINC Statistics

[Patrick Wigmore]

I just read this document about Science United:
https://scienceunited.org/doc/implementation.pdf

Comparing BOINC's credit system to Science United's, it provides some 
insight into another reason why credit for BOINC tasks may not appear 
instantly:
> BOINC has a sophisticated credit system for estimating the FLOPs
> performed by a completed job.  It is fairly “cheat-proof”: it is
> difficult to get credit for computation not actually performed. 
> However, this is based in part on job replication, meaning that
> credit for a job may not be granted until the companion job is
> completed, which could take weeks.


Meanwhile, it looks the Rosetta@home job queue has run completely dry 
and my machine has run out of jobs to process, though over a million 
jobs are still being processed by other clients.

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Re: [Dorset] Donating computing power

[Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty]

On 31/03/2020 13:54, Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty wrote:
> On 30/03/2020 22:01, PeterMerchant via dorset wrote:
>> On 30/03/2020 15:59, Tim Waugh wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 14:51, Patrick Wigmore  wrote:
>>>
 I thought I'd told it to abort the current tasks before shutting it
 down, but I've since found they sitll show as "In progress" on my
 Rosetta account.
>>> I'm sitting on some work units for Rosetta@home as well, mostly
>>> because I'm
>>> waiting for Folding@home to be idle waiting for work before resuming
>>> them.
>>>
>>> But fear not: with BOINC tasks a single work unit can be assigned to
>>> multiple clients, and the results are cross-checked.
>>> https://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/JobReplication
>>>
>>> Tim.
>>> */
>> Mi Computer hasn't done  much work on this for the last couple of days
>> because my daughter, a senior sister at Winchester Intensive Care
>> Unit, put out a call for 3D printed face masks as they are running out
>> of NHS shields, and I and a couple of other guys have been printing
>> away. If anybody else wants to help,  Please print the European
>> version of this:
>>
>>
>> 3D-printed protective visor - 3DVerkstan - Quick to print, easy to
>> assemble 
>>
>> I have done about 10 so far, and they need hundreds because they can
>> only be used for about a week, and her ICU is expanding from 9 to
>> about 120 beds.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Peter
> I know Penri from the model town got stuff 3D printed before. I've asked
> him who did it in case they'll do it for free for you. I'll reply again
> when I have their details.
>
> Hamish
>
Okay, so this is a one-man band, and his website is at
http://cobnut3d.co.uk/ if you want to get in touch.

Penri says he seems to be a decent guy, so he might do it for free or
very cheap for the ICU.

Hamish



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Re: [Dorset] Donating computing power

[Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty]

On 30/03/2020 22:01, PeterMerchant via dorset wrote:
> On 30/03/2020 15:59, Tim Waugh wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 14:51, Patrick Wigmore  wrote:
>>
>>> I thought I'd told it to abort the current tasks before shutting it
>>> down, but I've since found they sitll show as "In progress" on my
>>> Rosetta account.
>>
>> I'm sitting on some work units for Rosetta@home as well, mostly
>> because I'm
>> waiting for Folding@home to be idle waiting for work before resuming
>> them.
>>
>> But fear not: with BOINC tasks a single work unit can be assigned to
>> multiple clients, and the results are cross-checked.
>> https://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/JobReplication
>>
>> Tim.
>> */
>
> Mi Computer hasn't done  much work on this for the last couple of days
> because my daughter, a senior sister at Winchester Intensive Care
> Unit, put out a call for 3D printed face masks as they are running out
> of NHS shields, and I and a couple of other guys have been printing
> away. If anybody else wants to help,  Please print the European
> version of this:
>
>
> 3D-printed protective visor - 3DVerkstan - Quick to print, easy to
> assemble 
>
> I have done about 10 so far, and they need hundreds because they can
> only be used for about a week, and her ICU is expanding from 9 to
> about 120 beds.
>
> Thanks,
> Peter

I know Penri from the model town got stuff 3D printed before. I've asked
him who did it in case they'll do it for free for you. I'll reply again
when I have their details.

Hamish



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Re: [Dorset] BOINC Manager Not Loading Anymore

[Terry Coles]

On Tuesday, 31 March 2020 12:39:07 BST Terry Coles wrote:

> Does anyone have any ideas what might have happened or how I can go about

> finding ot the cause?

I've actually just discovered the problem. In the man page for boincmgr it

gives an autostart switch (-a) which:

'Tells the BOINC Manager that it was started by the operating

system automatically. Use this if the Manager is started at login time.'

I added the -a to my Plasma Widget and was able to launch the program. It

also just launched automatically after a reboot

The only question I have now is why did it work originally?

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[Dorset] BOINC Manager Not Loading Anymore

[Terry Coles]

Hi,

Can anyone tell me how to debug this problem that has just started in the past 
few days?

As you know from my previous postings, I installed BOINC on 25th March.  At 
the same time I installed BOINC Client and BOINC Control and this allowed me 
to launch BOINC Manager to setup the configuration.  On shutdown, I left the 
BOINC Manager running alongside the KDE System Monitor.  On the following and 
subsequent mornings those two apps started automatically on boot-up.  So far 
so good.  

Yesterday morning I started as normal, but no BOINC Manager.  I tried clicking 
on the icon that I'd created in the Plasma desktop Widget - nothing, so I 
rebooted and everything was fine.

Today the same thing occurred, but rebooting didn't help, so I tried purging 
the three BOINC packages and their associated dependencies, but that didn't 
help.  I then found that if I ran 'sudo boincmgr' in a shell the Manager came 
up.

So I started diagnosing.  Running 'boincmgr' in a shell simply exits with no 
error.  The apt history log shows me successfully installing the three 
packages on the 25th and the purge today but I couldn't see anything relevant 
in the updates log (I checked if any of the dependencies had been updated by 
Discover Updater since the 25th and they hadn't.  The only update cycle that 
has been run recently was this morning; after this problem became apparent.

The only mention of boincmgr in syslog says:

Mar 31 08:11:30 OptiPlex dbus-daemon[1749]: [session uid=1000 pid=1749] 
Activating via systemd: service name='org.a11y.Bus' unit='at-spi-dbus-
bus.service' requested by ':1.29' (uid=1000 pid=1894 comm="boincmgr " 
label="unconfined")

I don't really have any idea what all that means.

Does anyone have any ideas what might have happened or how I can go about 
finding ot the cause?

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